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    Yeah, I have to also ask why? I understand the full time staff were laid off but why sell the rig when there are older trucks in the fleet? If it's because it was the full timers rig than that's just petty.
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    Cool Story.... http://m.newson6.com/story.aspx?story=36407229&catId=112042
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    Because ISO isn't about firefighting ability or even capability, it's about meeting textbook benchmarks and checking the box. I've seen a good number of ISO Class 1 rated FDs burn buildings to the ground on a regular basis. But hey at least the residents benefit from the rating in their premiums.
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    Fort Lee Rescue 2 was delivered today 2017 Spartan Gladiator 6 person Chassis Rescue 1 Walk Around Body here are some pics I shot of it tonight more to come
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    I recall this fire-as it occurred on my shift. The fire happened in the early Am, and the only occupant in the bus at the time of the incident was the driver. The driver was also the person who called 911, and took the video.
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    By the time the first rig arrived that bus was toast. Presumably all occupants were out. Why even go inside? Seems like a big risk to try and salvage some part of a vehicle. Just hit it from the outside.
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    So a few points that must be considered when using this video as a basis for comparison: 1. The nozzle was set to a narrow to medium fog pattern, something we know will entrain air and push heat, smoke and fire. A straight or solid stream would not have had the same result, or to the same degree. 2. The issue of pushing products of combustion onto trapped occupants outside the fire room has been shown to be nearly negated with a proper solid/straight stream and little movement. Inside the fire room with actual fire out the window, the probability of survivability is next to nothing. 3. One of the reasons we have such a wide spread of results from the "reset" stream is the misapplication. When you say "at any angle", it's really a perversion of the research showing the smooth/straight stream should be aimed into the opening with the stream entering the opening low and aimed sharply upward at the ceiling and held there with little to no movement to minimize blocking the venting from the same opening. 4. Positioning a line to attack from the unburned side can result in delayed water on the fire, which we know is the real key to success. The sooner we can cool the fire and stop the production/spread of heat, the better. Also, going to the rear in residential dwellings often doesn't allow for the line to be placed between the fire and the stairs. In my opinion, the "outside hit" is a tactic that can work very well as long the conditions are right: a) fire must be self-vented from the fire room, b) the opening cannot be out of the way of the first line stretched so that it causes a delay in getting inside (unless it's totally untenable), c) charging the line outside cannot delay the stretch inside (fire on the third floor or above where a dry lay up may be significantly faster). Basically, why would we not want to cool the fire faster if it's possible? Again, done properly, utilizing a straight stream or solid bore properly applied when it doesn't significantly (60 seconds?) delay the stretch in? Again in my opinion this tactic should not be called "transitional attack". Transitional indicates a movement from one mode to another, but in this case the outside stream is not a defensive move, it's a "new" option in the offensive attack, that like other tactics should be utilized when conditions indicate and allow. Conditions dictate tactics. All of that said, that video went totally different than I anticipated, they made short work of that fire.
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    I remember as a young lad riding the school bus that EVERY student thought that the fire drills were a waste of time (and, secretly the bus drivers would take bets on who could evacuate their buses the fastest!). But, in all seriousness, those plastic seats will take off once there's enough heat energy in that bus. One of the suggested videos at the end this one was a 12 minute video; it starts right after ignition (in the middle of the bus) and is fully involved by the 4 minute mark. 6 minutes in the situation is no longer tenable to life inside. 6 minutes is the mark that NFPA suggests that we arrive on scene. Though the video above shows a bus fire where the point of origin is probably the engine compartment, depending on the situation we have to come up with a different plan of attack. Pertaining to a bus fire, I would like to say that those fire drills pay off and everyone is off the bus and accounted for, that way we can just put the fire out like it was a shed or a sedan on fire. LayTheLine, I understand what you're saying from a structural point of view. I want to point out that NIST, the ATF, and FDNY have done complex studies with each other to identify the strengths and weakness for different attacks, including the semi-controversial transitional attack, for structure fires. The studies, from what I've seen, don't really touch on vehicles fires, let alone mass transport. The point I'm getting at here is that this is a vehicle fire, where we expect the vehicle to be totaled and cannot be saved, very much unlike a house or apartment building where we can save property. Vehicle fires tend to be a complete loss of property, and we just put out the fire. As for bus fires, we have to treat it as if someone is inside, but there are two important questions that have to be asked before we conduct an interior attack on a bus fire: We have to ask the bus driver if everyone is off the bus, and is everyone accounted for. If the answer to both questions is yes, then we attack the fire in a manner that is safest for us. If either answer is no, then we take the calculated risk of saving a life (but keep it in the back of your mind of how fast that fire has spread and the toxic environment those victims have been exposed to prior to your arrival). Bus fires are always going to be tricky, just as any vehicle fire. Just remember that we, as firefighters, have three priorities: LIFE safety, PROPERTY loss prevention, and scene STABILITY, in that order!
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    34 is Yorktown 36 is Ossining/Croton/Briarcliff 35 & 39 is Cortlandt/Peekskill 37 is Mount Pleasant
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    It's also important to remember that the union is there to protect the process. If you don't protect the process when an employee is disciplined, particularly when the employee may very well deserve the discipline or termination, then you set a dangerous precedent whereby someone in the future who doesn't deserve to be disciplined or terminated is harmed. It may not be easy or popular to represent an employee who may deserve the discipline or termination, but they have the right to representation and the union has an obligation to do so. It's not the union's fault if the employer fails to follow proper procedure and the discipline or termination is overturned. It's all no different than a person accused of a crime having the right to an attorney, the defense attorney having the obligation to represent them to the best of their ability and the police and DA having to follow the proper procedures in building and trying their case in order to avoid it being thrown out on a technicality.
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    That hasn't exactly been what I've seen from the large city near me. They've had several employees across different city departments that have been reinstated, largely due to violations of due process, in some cases, rushing into terminating the employee.
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    Unit it's replacing 1990 Spartan Gladiator 10 person cab /Saulsbury Walk in Box Heavy Rescue
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    Bedford Hills & Mt Kisco Fds from last year Bill Tompkins photos - btfirephotos.com
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    Good deal for someone https://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/12346/item/village-of-scarsdale-12346-75319
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    While I think most would agree specialty tools like the Navy Nozzle, bayonet nozzles, or Bresdan Distributors have a place on apparatus, their uses are for a specific set of circumstances. In this case, even if you felt it was not safe to enter the bus, the rear door would have made an easy access point for a normal firestream. On evacuating the bus, does anyone know the procedure the drivers are taught (maybe not standard?). This looks like the perfect case for the driver to send kids out the back and check seat by seat on his way out the back as well? But, does the driver have to open the door, or can kids of any age do this in an emergency? If the driver has to go back and open the door, he may never get back to the front to check seat by seat... Something I'd never really given any consideration, but this discussion got me thinking.
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    You're going to have to go inside at some point, namely for overhaul. And, since it's a metal tube full of plastic with a ton of windows, it's safe to say that you can enter a bus fire with minimal risk. It's self-vented and there's just a bit of heat. As long as all of the occupants are out and accounted for, the worst of your fears should be getting some melted plastic on your gear.
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    Always easy to say this from a chair at a desk, but it looks like it is on a slope. Before they did anything, especially going in, they should have chocked it.
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    we have it on the rescue in my department but why not attack from the outside using a navy low velocity fog nozzle. i believe we have a 6 foot one, just the right height to go around the bus get the knock down and cool down. then you can enter and mop up the hot spots. Just seems like this guy took a risk, especially if the fuel tank let lose, yes it's diesel but it will ignite.
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    It's a Rockland county thing calling them Tankers : o) beautiful fleet up there in New City went to 9 Towers & 9 Tanker 's Wetdowns
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    45 Medics Medic 1 Armonk, Banksville, Chappaqua, Millwood, Mt Kisco, Bedford, Bedford Hills up to harris rd Medic 2 Katonah, Somers, Bedford Hills North of Harris Rd North Salem West of RTE 22 Medic 3 South Salem, North Salem East of 22, Vista, and Pound Ridge. Katonah is central for them so when its one medic in service that medic reposts to katonah When medic 1 goes out medic 2 goes to mt kisco medic 3 goes central when medic 2 or 3 goes out the other medic either 2 or 3 goes central. 40Bravo1 a bls unit that picks up 911 calls from majority of the nursing homes in the 45 response area as first due. also back fills for when a volunteer crew can not be mustered.
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    Date: 09/23/17 Time: 1815hrs Location: 6 Marshall Dr. (Knox Village apartments) District: Vails Gate Battalion: 4 Channel: Weather: Units: VGFD, Spring Valley (Engine), Nanuet (Engine), City of Newburgh (1&1), NWEMS, NWPD Writer: BFD1054 Description: Working Fire 1815hrs-Vails Gate, stand-by companies and Newburgh FD dispatched to report of wires arching next to a building. Command arrived to find active fire in the basement. Companies stretched (2) hand lines and made quick work of the fire.
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    Engine 58 was sold last night for $236,000.00 for a loss of about $150,000.00 dollars . What a shame to the taxpayers of Port Chester
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    You would think with all that manpower we were told they have they could have used it.
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    Isn't the money from Rye Brook half what PC was getting. And that contract comes up for renewal next year. There will be other options considered by Rye Brook.
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    BINGO !!! Getting a new rig for the current chief's company (engine 60 aka Reliance E&H) was one of the many stupid reasons for the layoff. I truly believe the layoffs will come back to haunt them if not soon, definitely later. BTW, they're using the other paid rig, eng 59, for a spare.
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    Apparatus pics from this years event Bill & Chris Tompkins photos http://www.btfirephotos.com/World-Trade-Center-Memorial-in/Apparatus/2017-Apparatus/
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    Here's links to stories about ceremonies that took place Yesterday The Ridgefield 5 that gave Their lives that morning in Cliffside Park NJ May they continue resting in peace http://englewood.dailyvoice.com/police-fire/videos-5-firemen-killed-in-cliffside-park-bowling-alley-blaze-honored/724310/
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    Caught this at the ER today Aero Ambulance Service out of Hackensack NJ A private Ambulance service I believe this is a new unit 2017 Ford Transit (unknown manufacturer)
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    Nick... The first three numbers are the department number as you said. Usually the last number denotes a decreasing level of command authority. My old department (Millwood) is Westchester County Department 225. 2251 - Chief 2252 - 1st Assistant Chief 2253 - 2nd Assistant Chief 2254 - Captain 2255 - 1st Lieutenant 2256 - 2nd Lieutenant 2257 - 3rd Lieutenant 2258 - Safety Office (when I was there this may have changed) 2259 - Ex Chief that took acting chief role if one of the 3 active chiefs was out of town (this may have changed since then as well) This is how it is set up for Millwood. Other departments have more than one captain or they have deputy chiefs or more than 3 chiefs so the last number may designate one of those positions and the lieutenants may never have a county command number. Hope this helps.
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    LayTheLine: That's far more than I anticipated. I'll have to ask if we have a similar thing in our area. I never remember being part of or hearing about a bus evacuation drill, but alas, it's been a few years since I rode in a yellow bus.
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    I have a friend who is a school bus driver and school bus driver instructor - that's what got me started with this thread. antiquefirelt - As a point of interest, the back emergency door can be opened from outside. But you bring up a good point of how to manage everything when it's one adult and especially 30 grade school kids!! This is the biggest challenge for bus drivers and from what my friend tells me, a lot more time is spent in their training on walking through how to evacuate a bus full of grade school kids, although they still go over evacuation for middle school & high school in training. I've attached two videos, each about 5 minutes long. The first one is a video that she shows to new candidate drivers as an introduction to safety and evacuation. The second one is a video made for the kids. They show it every year to 5th, 7th and 9th graders early in the school year. They don't show it to grade school kids as they don't want to frighten the kids and a lot of the stuff they're talking about (reaching certain handles) the little kids couldn't reach anyhow. So it's been thought through and hopefully the kids have been executed should you pull up on any school bus emergency. For new drivers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy5aZwsGm8M For students (a little corny but it could save lives!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNbld-7QJ7s
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    oh no doubt it was a great fast knock down. just good to look at this video, take a moment and think. Some really great ideas and observations. as far as the navy nozzle i know its something new guys don't know or haven't seen but i saw one on the rescue one day and was oh thats cool we have one. i'm a commercial sailor and well we have a ton of them on the ship. and sold brass vary nozzles too... they are a pain when salt gets in them though. and we don't use fresh water in the firemain. but i like the video, shows alot of good things and again a great fast knock down.
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    The City of Peekskill is in the process of replacing one of there Chiefs Cars unknown which Chief is going to get the new car
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    Isn't New City's 9"tanker" a 2011. Why would they replace it already? I understand they might be frustrated with Pierce, but is there something specific with this apparatus other than it really isn't a tanker (LOL).
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    I have been told that it is going to be replacing 9-Tanker. They are done with Pierce and the local dealership with constant issues with the Tanker.
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    Date:9/30/17 Time:8:30 approx. Location:200 Bergen Blvd C/o 9th street & Kamena street District:Company 3 Truck 2 Battalion: Channel:154.355 Weather: partly cloudy windy Units:Fairview All 3 companies Cliffside park Ladder 1 FAST Ridgefield Engine 3 Fairview Emergency Response Unit (EMS) Cliffside Park EMS CP A3 Englewood Hospital ALS 211 Writer: vodoly Description: Dispatched as a confirmed working fire By Fort Lee com center first units on scene found heavy smoke condition from the building They used 3 lines plus set up FV trucks Ladder pipe Believe it was used to knock down heavy fire Cliffside Park Ladder 1 went to roof for trench cuts fire placed under control about 90 mins into the fire
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    Interesting story I found todayhttp://hudsontv.com/nj-fire-boat-regional-communications-begins-in-hudson/
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    I've been involved as a union rep in numerous discharge cases and as a rule have the burden of proof; in most of them management doesn't do their "homework" and the employee ends up being reinstated, many times with full back pay and benefits as well. It's also important to remember that the union is not there to "protect" the employee, rather they are there to "represent" the employee .
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    This isn't the forum for such a question. There's really no guidance you can get from us keyboard commandos without specific information, the kind of information that (a) doesn't belong here and (b) could reveal the identity of the agency or person. Suffice it to say that terminating a union employee is not taken lightly and there are statutory and contractual considerations before it can happen. Most jobs don't want to get it reversed in court so they're very careful about taking such drastic action so they must have dotted the i's and crossed the t's.
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    Funniest comment on the new unit I retired from my Police job & now I ride in this lol Tour chief working yesterday
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    And don't forget that Charleston (SC) FD was an ISO Class 1 Department under the leadership of Chief Rusty and at the time of the Super Sofa store fire.
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    Have heard Allendale currently has a committee specing out anew ladder.
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    thanks for sharing the pics, great job by the photographers.
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