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    Here's the million dollar question.... Who's going to staff it? It is going to be a volunteer system, much like the Westchester Haz-mat team, which due to slow response times, has been skipped over many a time for a properly staffed rig? Tech team responses require an immense amount of training, and if you get the cert once and never handle the equipment for months, you're gonna lose that skill...
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    This reminds me of the talk of Haz-Mat responses back in the 1980's when departments were just getting involved in Haz-Mat responses. There were extreme ideologies back then as well. Some thought it was inevitable and something the fire service could not avoid. Others thought it was pure craziness and the barn doors should be kept shut if there was a green cloud floating through downtown. I think that starting a Tech-Rescue team is a good idea whether its career or volunteer. What are the alternatives? Have some child fall down a well and the totally untrained towns people gather together and try to form a human chain down into the well? With that being said, proper judgement has to be used by a Haz-Mat team or a Tech Rescue team when things are beyond their capability and that comes with training. If a local Haz-Mat team got called to a train derailment and there was some really severe Ethel-Methal Bad Stuff mixing with Super-Duper Sticky Stuff and it was obvious that special teams from the production companies and a professional clean-up crew would be needed to mitigate the situation, then perhaps the best approach would be to evacuate, pull-back and try to protect the environment if able to. The same would hold true for a Tech-Rescue team. If they respond to an old excavation site to discover someone has fallen 100 feet into a 2 foot diameter hole, they may decide they need to call a professional excavating company and a professional rigging and shoring company to come in and assist. In both cases training, judgment and size-up are needed to determine, "can we handle this?" A chief wouldn't send a crew of firefighters into a fully-involved, collapsing house on a report someone was inside - same idea.
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    Great color choice for a team of employees who work on highways where vehicles travel at high rates of speed...
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    If anyone is interested contact 1 of the 3 photographers to have your apparatus pics taken A disk with pictures of your rigs will be sent out to you for Free!
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    Well the wait is over Finally got a chance to get pictures of the new FLA 3 It's one of 2 totally new units Built by PL Custom 2nd one is assigned to FLA 4 The 3 rd unit will be a remount of FLA1's box on to a Ford F450 4WD Chassis FLA 3 & 4 Feature White out privaticy window treatments new warning light set up plus Push Bar strip LED warning lighting These units mark a return to Pick up truck style chassised units since the late 70's when they operated 3 Chevy chassised units
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    Here's Ridgefield Tankers 5 A 1988 International Tech weld 375 2200 tank This is a former Port Authority Tunnel washer unit acquired by Ridgefield & Converted to fire department use all work done by Dept members & was painted by the DPW unit is used on the NJ Turnpike & brush fires in area It's part of the Bergen County Tanker Task Force Credit to the photographer
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    The Danbury Police Explorers are currently raising money to fund a new van. Their program is one of the largest in New England, when I aged out we had 75 Explorers; now they are up to about 100 members; however, they only have two 15-passenger vans at their disposal. These young men and women do an incredible amount of work to support DPD and the entire Danbury community; including supporting the Patrol Division with traffic, parking, and/or security details for special events, conducting land searches to support missing persons and other Detective Bureau cases, performing Honor Guard duties at ceremonies, among other duties. On average they support about six events per month, and the program receives very little in terms of funding from the City. Please consider donating to help these guys get a new vehicle so they can continue to support events in the western CT area: https://www.gofundme.com/danbury-cadets-need-a-new-van
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    First off I can honestly say that I would never take that position. But where you said, "challenges to overcome in doing anything new". I believe you shouldn't attempt to do anything new before you fix the problems that you have. It doesn't matter what rig goes out the door, rescue,engine or ladder, if that's not properly staffed with people on it with a certain level of training, what good is that. Thats unacceptable and dangerous. I feel each department should look at themselves and admit there's a problem. Is going paid or even a combo department the answer I don't know. I'm just saying you need to crawl before you walk. Try not to take on more than you can handle.
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    I guess my only question to all the Naysayers is what other option is there? I suppose you could call another county mutual aid for a tech-rescue team but that would take time. I don't know the financial status of Putnam County or it's towns, but it sounds like if they are going to hire career firefighters to cover even the basic calls because of lack of manpower they need to concentrate on the basic daily responses with the career staff before creating a tech-rescue team. So let's assume it's a horrible, terrible, dumb idea to create the tech-rescue team with volunteers from the departments within Putnam County. No-way, no-how!! They'll buy people cool t-shirts anyhow to appease the 75% of the people who are in it for that. So there is nothing. Now, let's take the example of the construction worker who is up to his neck in a collapsed trench. Time is an important factor here. The call goes out to the local department at 1pm on a Tuesday afternoon. The first-due engine pulls up and has 3 on-board (Joe who is retired truck driver, Tom who is Captain and works in the local deli, and Sue who is an EMT). None of these members have experience or training in any type of tech-rescue. So they walk up to the guy who's buried and do what? There is no Putnam County team to request, mutual aid tech-rescue is too far away to be of any good, and the engine crew is not up to the task. The captain tells the worker there's nothing they can do for them and the crew climbs back on the engine and returns to quarters. That, of course, is ludicrous!!! If there were a tech-rescue team, this is probably an incident they could handle. Sure the response might not be immediate, but in the meantime another department could be called in mutual aid to the scene to have manpower there and perhaps at least stabilize the scene until tech-rescue shows up. I know nothing of tech-rescue, but perhaps boards could be built up around the worker so more dirt doesn't fall on him. Maybe the EMT could get close enough to slip an O2 mask on the guy. Maybe they could prepare the scene by moving dump trucks and other vehicles out of the immediate area to give the tech-rescue team clear access to the scene. Maybe they could lay out tools on a tarp which the tech-rescue team might need (shovels, pails, ropes, etc.). So I ask the people who are against this, what are the alternatives? Not go? Go but then return? Have Lawn-Chair 1 respond so they can put out lawn chairs and tables and serve lemonade and sandwiches while they watch the guy die? Very simple solution which I stated before: 1) If it's a minor situation like a child has his hand stuck in a bicycle chain, the first due engine can most likely handle that. 2) If it's a more serious incident like a guy buried up to his neck in a trench, the first due engine assesses the situation, calls for the tech-team, calls a mutual aid engine and tries to at least stabilize the scene and cause no further harm. 3) If the tech-rescue team arrives on location and it's a guy down an abandoned 200 foot deep well that is caving in, the tech-rescue team may decide they need heavier equipment and call additional tech-rescue teams and call on the private industry who has the equipment to deal with this. Perhaps they would have to dig a hole 50 feet away and then tunnel in to get him out. A very extended operation. But, the first due engine identifies the problem and calls for help. They immediately cordon off the zone so no one else falls in or loosens anything else which will fall in. They ascertain the number of victim(s), age(s), medical condition(s), etc. When the tech-rescue team shows up they realize they will need help and call for another tech-rescue team and ABC Drilling & Well Company. Perhaps the tech-team can feed a camera with audio down the hole to see if the person(s) are conscious and evaluate the situation. Who knows, maybe they could even snake an O2 mask down to the victim(s). The tech-team realizes its going to be an extended operation (perhaps 24 hours) and they set up a Planning & Logistics section and create an operational period chart. They may even call in an Incident Management Team. It comes down to common sense, training, experience and knowing when "this is bigger than we can handle" be it the first due engine or the tech-rescue team. To do nothing you might as well nail the doors shut on the firehouse and have everyone volunteer at the local food bank; which by the way offers cool t-shirts too!!
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    I like it - sharp looking truck. I'm not crazy about politicians putting their names on vehicles.
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    Here's what I'm getting out of this statement: If Putnam County is willing to share resources to obtain a grant, AND Westchester County is willing to share resources (to get a grant), AND Orange County is willing to share resources (to get a grant), are these counties setting themselves up to become a regional technical rescue response team? In my mind, the sharing of resources cuts the cost to the taxpayers by setting up a system where this task force has this and that task force has that, and they share the resources based on what is needed where. This is obviously in contrast to each county being set up exactly the same as the others. Anyway, kudos to Putnam County on their progress in organizing such a specialized team! It takes a lot of time, hard work, and resources to bring together such a project!
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    Date: 07/21/2017 Time: 19:02 Location: Aproximately 1 mile south-southwest of Shippan Point District: SFD 4 Battalion: Eastside Channel: Tac 1 Weather: 86, Partly cloudy Units: SFD: FB236, E4, E5 (Relocate for fireboat), R1 (Relocate for fireboat), U4 (DC) SPD: 3B28, TE2, 1C54, 8S3 (Sergeant) SEMS: M3 Greenwich PD: Marine 139 Noroton FD: Marine 34 Norwalk PD: Marine Unit (Unit # Unknown) crew called back to staff boat Norwalk FD: Fireboat 238 USCG: Unk Vessel from Eatons Neck Writer: AFS1970 Description: Multiple phone calls from people on a 12 person fishing boat, reporting male & child overboard, no qualified operators on board. Due to language barrier with callers no vessel location other than Connecticut and no vessel name were able to be obtained. GPS/ALI location for 1 caller showed well inland (likely tower) and one showed location in water. Due to this, the call was broadcast to neighboring towns for any available public safety boat to respond. Siren from Noroton Marine 34 was heard over phone, assisting in locating vessel. Stamford Fireboat 236 located boat and found nobody overboard and all subjects accounted for. Vessel was escorted into marina, EMS transported a child with a minor laceration. Coast Guard responded to pier to meet with vessel operator.
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    I believe these trucks were identified in a much earlier post and reiterated in this thread by Morningjoe as the 'Governors' trucks, hence the red lights. They are for his use in extreme weather/road conditions and are dump trucks because they were bought by the DOT with surplus Homeland Security funds after the 2011 storms. Though the mud flaps say DOT, the door decal is definitely not DOT, more like NYS Homeland Security or something to that effect. Originally painted yellow, they were repainted black and there are four positioned around the State at garages operated by the Office of General Services for his use and were 'rebranded 'as 'rescue trucks'. Originally intended to be used in place of the Governors SUV which almost got washed away while inspecting upstate flood areas, these trucks were only two wheel drive and not high enough to traverse seriously deep water. I believe they have now added five surplus military trucks capable of dealing with high water and snow.
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    There was a special operations team here in my area of bergen county that was combined Volunteer & a career dept few years back that responded for confined space & collapse calls They were well trained & had plenty of resources I believe the state USAR Task Force is now called in now no idea what happened to this team We also have The East Bergen Repel team witch is all volunteer that responds to Repel jobs as well as confined space jobs it's well run & trains constantly I believe Englewood fire (career dept ) has Repel trained members that can respond as well
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    The Fairchester Hose Haulers of the Hudson Valley will be hosting an open house August 12 & 13 from 10am-4pm at Andy Leider's truck house, 2618 Rte. 302, Middletown,NY. See over 200 antique fire apparatus. Like us on Facebook website www.Fairchesterhosehaulers.com
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    Yeah many volunteer departments can't supply an engine for an activate fire alarm. Or an extrication. Especially in the middle of the day. Good luck with all of this. At least a bunch of people will get cool t shirts and a cool license plate. Let's face it, that's 75% of this. Car down an embankment off of 84, rope systems required= performed every year by brewster Patterson etc, elevators same thing. Please.
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    Bedford Hills & Mt Kisco Fds from last year Bill Tompkins photos - btfirephotos.com
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    So it's pretty common elsewhere in the country to have teams made up of volunteers to handle the rescues of lost hikers and the other tech rescues that present themselves in the parks that have become more common. These teams exist in places where all the fire departments are fully career and they work together on responses. An example. http://www.malibusar.org/Home.aspx
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    Congratulations Goldens Bridge on your new rig - E138, a Spartan EV. Looks really sharp, nice job done by the truck committee. Best of luck with it and stay safe.
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    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/07/24/passaic-new-jersey-fire/
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    That Tiller from LaPlata has seen more work in its short time in Passaic than it did in its whole career! It seems like as soon as they got it, all h*ll broke loose!
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    Garfield NJ Company 3 recently placed in service this 2017 Ferrara MVP
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    Reviewing my photos the other day regarding the blacked out NYS Mack Granite that I posted to this group, I noticed the truck behind it was one of the older Internationals. Sorry for the crappy shot, but it's better then nothing.
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    http://highlandscurrent.com/2017/07/24/putnam-prepares-assemble-specialized-rescue-team/
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    As we approach Sept.11th. let us not forget Keith Roma NYFP #2...and all the brothers and sisters..who gave all....god save the USA
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    How old is the current communications center? It seems odd they would build a brand-new backup center and just have it sit there. Is the old center bigger and perhaps this will be just a scaled down center to use in an emergency? $3 million doesn't seem like a lot of money, so my guess is it doesn't have all the bells and whistles like a break room, kitchen, showers, or even a spot to pull out bunks. But the idea is a solid idea no matter what the set-up. Many places don't have a solid back up plan.
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    http://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/rockland/2017/08/14/rockland-breaks-ground-communications-center/564674001/
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    http://www.ryecityreview.com/news/city-leaders-back-plan-to-add-career-firefighters/ City leaders back plan to add career firefighters – The Rye City Review
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    Just another law created for revenue money and to impose somewhat senseless fines on Hardworking citizens and Americans… But now we know why the "sudden" interest and the passage of the new law that added the "Window Tint" test to the NYS vehicle inspections.... This is why regular citizens need to be able to use any level of "dark tint" that they want for their own safety... New York State’s new window tinting law, which went into effect on January 1, 2017 and requires window tint testing during annual motor vehicle inspections. While testing during the vehicle inspection is new, the tinting standards are not. In 1992, New York State law has required that all windshield and front side windows allow at least 70 percent of outside light to pass through. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4167854/New-York-install-facial-recognition-cameras.html Along with the "increased" NYS Police presence in the now fully "cashless" Tolls collection (Bridges, Tunnels, Highways)... http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2017/02/15/exclusive--state-police-crack-down-on-toll-scofflaws-on-city-bridges-and-tunnels.html Just more reasons, to have license plate covers and IR/LED lights that that prevent Red-Light Camera and Automatic License Plate Readers (ALPR's - system stores the date, time and GPS of every vehicle forever, never deleted.) The benefits of window tint on vehicles seem to be tossed aside due to safety issues. "Police Officer Safety" and "Hitting Pedestrians" are the 2 arguments against having window tinting on a vehicle. However, when comparing NY's laws against the other 40 states with more lenient (such as Texas) there is no evidence or proof that window tinting does any harm to police officers safety or pedestrians. New York State has gotten out of control with the laws that they enact, the taxes that we pay, and the lack of concern for the condition the state is in. I would like to see the in-depth research with credible statistics that prove that 70% of light transmission is absolutely necessary to make New York State "safer". When a police officer pulls someone over, how does 30% tint windows miraculously make approaching a vehicle from the back bumper (which can allow 100% tinted windows) keep them "safer"? Will pedestrians miraculously not be hit by a car if there is no window tint? Of course this is also being rolled out in some test cities to surveil all America's http://www.blacklistednews.com/Police_Receive_God’s_Eye_Technology%2C_Google_Earth_with_Real_Time_Tivo_Capabilities/60189/0/38/38/Y/M.html Traditionally, when we talk about facial recognition technology, we are talking about a computer identifying a face in a photograph or video, and identifying certain biometrics of the face, such as the spacing between the eyes, the relative position of cheekbones, the shape of the jaw, and more. The human face has 80 nodes that can be used in facial recognition, but it only takes between 14 and 22 nodes to identify a unique human face. Alex Kilpatrick, a facial recognition researcher at Texas-based Tactical Information Systems said that the simplest way to thwart current facial recognition systems is to look at your feet; it's subtle and prevents cameras mounted at eye-level or higher from getting a good look at your face. However, biometric researchers are constantly looking for ways to improve upon these systems.
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    I agree with what you say about not having enough manpower, or let alone qualified manpower, to conduct a certain job. But, sometimes you have to try something new to fix the problem. Putnam County has determined that they need a technical rescue team to fill some of the holes in local responses. This brings together county and local resources to perform a job. Yes, it's new. Does it fix the problem? We need to wait and see how this team actually performs. You can't judge an up-and-coming quarterback based on how he practices or what jersey he wears. You have to see him play! This team is in fact in it's crawling stage. It still has to find members, train them to a specified level, and retain those members and their level of training. Once they're at a point where the County can say, "Go!" then we can see how they perform under pressure and how well or poorly their responses are. We cannot Monday morning quarterback something that hasn't happened (nor should we once the team is in place). And, I don't think Putnam County is taking on more they can handle. Nor do I think that the responders that are going to sign up for the team are going to be taking on more than they can handle. Yes, you're going to lose some of the initial members due to time commitments or other issues, but you're still going to see a very gung-ho group follow through with the training. In all honesty, if it's really not working out five years from now, the County can redevelop the team or the idea to make it work for them. There's always room for learning, and there's always room for development.
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    Latest on Englewood Cliffs Pierce Velocity Pumper it will become EC1 & Its due by the end of the year The Hahn EC 3 is being traded in to Pierce
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    This is the problem I have, I'm not sure how many departments there on in Putnam county but I can bet that every department has a rig that has RESCUE on the side of it. Now you can put the lastest and greatest tools and equipment on it. The moment that rig leave the firehouse with a crew like the one stated above,to me that's not a RESCUE. When rigs leave understaffed and with unqualified members that's unacceptable, when you're struggling to do the basics,you shouldn't even think about attempting to do more advanced stuff. Each department should worry about themselves first, increase your manpower and level of training first. Stop worrying about cool t-shirts and how many certifications you have on your was. That doesn't mean anything when it's business hours and it's blowing out windows.
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    Is Scarsdale getting a new ladder saw theirs for sale online ? https://www.firetruckmall.com/AvailableTruck/09671/2008-Crimson-103'-Aerial?price=0-1200000&year=1950-2017&chassis=Both&brand=All&pumpsize=All&tanksize=All&category=Aerials-Ladder-Trucks-Quints&warranty=All&region=All&mileage=Any Mileage
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    Here's EMS 8 of North Bergen EMS at Englewood Hospital ER today 2016 Chevy/Medix
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    There's a big difference between searching for and "rescuing" a lost hiker and performing a technical rescue on a construction worker buried up to his neck in a collapsed excavation. Response time for one. Unless there's a blizzard coming, lost people can wait for a voluntary team to be assembled and mobilized. Not so with many technical rescues. Breakneck Mountain has been in the news a lot lately. How will this team benefit western Putnam, specifically to respond to Breakneck, when it's going to be based out of Carmel and staffed with people in Brewster and Carmel? How will they get there? By POV with a blue light? Absurd! Our system is flawed. It's been failing for decades but we just keep putting bandaids on it.
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    don't have any idea Who built this Ambulance but here's Alert Ambulance service unit 7910 ( unsure what the partnership with Hackensack Meridian Health care is) Look like a 2017 Ford Transit though Parked out side Hospital ER this afternoon
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    Most importantly, the mayor and public safety commissioner have their names on the door ... LOL
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    Jersey City has ordered a Pierce XT Heavy Rescue for Rescue 1 Finally going to replace that well used Lance
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    I am by no means a seasoned veteran (run a lot of medical calls & fire alarms) but the volume, pressure, and thickness of smoke coming out of the building between the 11 & 12 minute mark is the heaviest I've ever seen!
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    Date: 07/26/2017 Time: 20:05 (Aproximate) Location: East Branch of Stamford Harbor off Saddle Rock Rd District: SFD 4 Battalion: Eastside Channel: Ground 2 Weather: 69 and Sunny Units: SFD: E4, R1 (Relocating for Fireboat), U4 (IC), E1 (With Zodiac), Marine 236 SEMS: M3, M5 Greenich PD: Marine 139 Darien: Unk Marine Unit Writer: AFS1970 Description: Initial report for boat taking on water, 4 occupants with only 2 life jackets. Units arrived at initial location of Shippan Point and could not see the vessel. Arriving at updated location U4 was able to see vessel was capsized and 4 victims were in the water. U4 called for E1 with the Zodiac. Darien Marine unit arrived as well as a civilian boat responding to the distress call. U4 Greenwich Marine 139 arrived at nearby Marina Shortly. U4 canceled E1 due to multiple boats on scene to assist. ** As I was hearing this on a scanner I was not able to get information on police units responding unless they were mentioned over the fire radio.
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    The little king will have his way...the princess shall not stop him...but the voters might!
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    Hey, guys started seeing these trucks just sitting in front of the TBTA bridges (garage areas) just past the tolls... all lined up in an intimidating profile showcase... but all are empty and block the none new paint schema vehicles just behind in the garage areas... NY Post has since resolved the "black helicopter" DHS theories... its just a pissing match with deBlasio https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170224/midtown/state-vehicles-paint-colors-new-york-andrew-cuomo But the suspicionless monitoring and tracking of all citizens who've committed no crime, are not suspected of committing a crime or under any reasonable amount of suspicion, are all now being tracked with the Governors "no tolling" plans: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/cuomo-remove-toll-booths-hike-cops-mta-bridges-tunnels-article-1.2919406 http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2017/02/15/exclusive--state-police-crack-down-on-toll-scofflaws-on-city-bridges-and-tunnels.html It's about revenue and how much they can steal from people....not about safety or security: Cuomo said. “You’re now reading every license plate of everybody coming through that plaza.” “We’re very serious about revenue collection,” said MTA Chair Tom Prendergast. “Just because you don’t go through toll booths, don’t think we don’t have your license plate and accounting of who owes the toll.” Also next month, new laws to crack down on toll violators will go into effect. One suspends the vehicle registration of drivers who beats tolls three times in five years. Another law hikes toll violation penalties to $100 from $50. There will be an increased State Police presence at the crossings, with the agency adding 150 troopers to the force in January. The goal is to get more drivers to give up privacy and to get more drivers using E-ZPass.....
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    What is option B? Unless something has changed in the last 3 years since I left CT, there are no paid FDs in Putnam County. Certainly it isn't ideal, but there's no push for full time staffing in Putnam right now, so IMO this is probably the best that can be done with the resources available. You'll get the initial sign up of everyone wanting the cool T-Shirt, and then maybe end up with a dozen or two hardcore people countywide in 6-8 months who will do the training and respond to calls. Better than nothing.
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    The way some cities look at staffing this will not be a problem, because the guy who normally writes the tickets will be too busy pumping to do both.
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    Fair Lawn Heavy Rescue being side by side with this rescue. Thiells in NY has a Spartan/Rescue 1 being built also currently, along with a dive ambulance by another company.