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Greenwich FD New Engine 4 Photos

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Greenwich (CT) New Engine 4

2014 Seagrave Marauder II

1500GPM / 750 Gallons / 45 Gal Foam

One of two identical delivered from Hudson Valley Fire Equipment. I will shoot it's twin, Engine 8 when the weather gets nicer.

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Are those steps on the door?

Intended to prevent FF leg from falling into step well while door is closed. Large numbers of minor, albeit costly FF injuries happen while riding, entering, and leaving fire apparatus.... Especially during inclement weather.

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Intended to prevent FF leg from falling into step well while door is closed. Large numbers of minor, albeit costly FF injuries happen while riding, entering, and leaving fire apparatus.... Especially during inclement weather.

Awesome, thanks for the clarification.

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Nothing built like a Seagrave.

I can't really see what they are doing that is so special? Considering only the frame rails, cab and body are proprietary to Seagrave, the remaining 80% of the rig is vendor supplied.

Unless something is special about the type of stainless steel they are using or their welder, they are basically just like everyone else.

Their grill and logo look nice, but outside of that, what is the magic about a Seagrave?

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I can't really see what they are doing that is so special? Considering only the frame rails, cab and body are proprietary to Seagrave, the remaining 80% of the rig is vendor supplied.

Unless something is special about the type of stainless steel they are using or their welder, they are basically just like everyone else.

Their grill and logo look nice, but outside of that, what is the magic about a Seagrave?

Well, I'm not a fan of any particular builder...but the quality of assembly seems to matter a lot. Just ask someone who works on a Ferrara rearmount delivered to the FDNY in the last few years.....

....same engine, trans, ect....but put together badly.

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I can't really see what they are doing that is so special? Considering only the frame rails, cab and body are proprietary to Seagrave, the remaining 80% of the rig is vendor supplied.

Unless something is special about the type of stainless steel they are using or their welder, they are basically just like everyone else.

Their grill and logo look nice, but outside of that, what is the magic about a Seagrave?

Your right... frame rails, cab, body, some of the most important parts, I have been personally at E-One, Pierce, Sutphen, American LaFrance, and Salisbury (body only) plants thru out my career. Once you seen how each are made from the inside out , and not just the pretty outside, you to will respect how Seagrave is built.

There is reasons why some of the biggest and busiest city's in this country use Seagrave. Note :I am NOT a salesman.

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I am not a salesman either and have no issue against Seagrave, but often wonder why some in the fire service elevate them to levels of built-proof perfection.

In reality, they are a relatively small company with a very low annual production. This may be part of the reason as to why their assembly is more focused than a company that is producing hundreds (or thousands) or vehicles per year. Unfortunately, boutique style construction is not always an important factor when municipalities open competitive bids.

However, I would disagree with the statement that most of the nations busiest and biggest cities use Seagrave. At a quick glance, I can think of one large City in our immediate area, that uses Seagrave (amongst several other contracts including KME and Ferrara). If there are a bunch of other major US Cities still purchasing Seagraves in large quantities, please let us know.

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The steps in the doorways are an excellent idea. It makes no sense to have such a large step to get in and out especially while wearing bunker gear. And for those with short legs.

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