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  1. Posted

    i myself having been a loyal nextel customer for over 10 years just dumped them and went to verizon wireless.

    purchased the motorola Q, what a great phone.

    In m opinion it crushes my blackberry. its syncs with outlook seamlessly i can edit all of my contacts and schedules and tasks through outlook and bam the phone is updated immeaditly and the service is great. having a windows OS phone is great very stable compared to my blackberry. the media center is great popped in a 1MB mini sd card and loaded up a buncha music and video's.

    and the service is great works everywhere my nextel didnt.

  4. Posted

    The XTS series is digital and analog capable on the same radio, whereas the HT is either digital or analog.

    HT Digital or Analog? NO WAY. The HT 750's 1250's and 1550's or WARIS series of radio's are analog only. they are 25kHz/12.5 kHz capable but they ARE NOT digital in anyway. they have a Digital display but that is as far as they get.

    The problem with your XTS 2500's might be the programming could be wrong on your 12.5 kHz channels or the radio's need to be tuned.

  6. Posted · Edited by ff026

    P25 trunking is a standard. it is 9600 baud compared to normal motorola 3800 baud. any P25 trunking radio can work on a P25 trunking system provided it is given the system key. another interseting note with P25 systems, on most 3800 baud systems you can buy a portable and use a special program found widely on the internet to program a system key in and monitor it as a trunked non affiliated(you program PTT inhibit) portable to listen to specific talkgroups as you would on an ordinary portable. P25 trunking Kills all non authorized system portables, because a P25 sytem gets its info from the control channel hence the 9600 baud rate.

    westchester's new system is a P16 standard and i cant for the life of me remember the important parts of the standard.

    any new digital scanner starting with the BC796D can monitor a P25 trunking system and all of the talk groupls provided you program them in.

  7. Posted

    sounds like a tornado touched down in rockland in the nyack area. from what i am hearing on the fire radio it at least ripped a shed apart at the thruway authority area on the west side of the bridge.

  8. Posted · Edited by ff026

    Wait...I think you got that backwards. If Westchester's system is proprietary Motorola requiring Motorola equipment specifically designed and programmed to work on the SmartZone system, then how could Rockland's P25 open standard non-Motorola radios possibly work on their system? I can understand Westchester's Motorola equipment being able to work on our open standard system, but how can the opposite be true?

    no westchesters system is a project 16 trunking system 3600 Baud control channel rocklands is gong to be 9600 baud control channel. rockland's radio's can be flashed for both P25 trunking and 3600 baud trunking. westchester's can not they are not specing P25 portables their portables and mobiles are ANOLOG only our equipment wil be both analog and digital.

    I wasn't actually referring to simplex fireground operations, I was referring to the trunked UHF portables themselves. I'm completely aware of how Rockland's new system is going to be designed and laid out. Forget fire for a minute, I'm talking about EMS or PD inside a house trying to reach their dispatcher over the trunked system. Sure, standing in the middle of Main Street should be no problem, or transmitting on a mobile, but how is this going to translate in the real world using a 4 watt portable on UHF in an area that is still very low band and VHF friendly as far as the terrain and foliage is concerned?

    you are forgetting about the charecteristics of the Upper UHF band. it penetrates concrete and steele better than VHF. foliage is not as much of a problem as it is with low band and VHF. there are also going to be more receiver sites throughout the county then there presently are. all of the receive sites are going to be tied into voting comparator's.

    This is exactly what I mean. 95% coverage while standing in the middle of the street and having no speaker mic on the radio is just too unrealistic a scenario. You can usually just as easily use your mobile if that is the situation. We all know the moments you need to get a message out the most are when you ARE inside a house, and we all know that the vast majority of radios have speaker mics attached to them.

    Again, it all sounds so wonderful on paper, but how will it truly perform in the real world? That has obviously yet to be determined, hence my skepticism.

    you misunderstand the speaker mic part. a public safety speaker mic is a speaker mic that has an antenna on it. i am stating that we are getting a system that will work with a conventional speaker mic(no antenna) with the radio on your hip. as i type this i refer back to my coverage maps. for a building with 6dB building penetration loss(typical house in rockland) the inbound transmission to the system is about 93%. no we do not approach those levels today in this county.

    I'm sure the Centracom Gold Elite consoles Control is now using can be programmed so the correct and closest transmit tower is automatically selected based on the fire dept being dispatched. Something similar to cell phone technology, where it polls what site the strongest signal is received on. As it stands now, the dispatcher has to make that decision manually based on where the call is or who is calling into Control. Not very efficient.

    no they can not you need a voting comparator for that purpose. That type of system is called Transmitter steered voting. Low band is going to strictly for paging.

    There is no reason there can't be more low band transmitter sites throughout the county to increase reception.

    well yes there is 1. it is expensive and not cost effective you need base stations antenna's tie lines or microwave. 2. you can not buy a 100 watt or 330 watt micor base station anymore. No major manufacture builds high power low band base station equipment that can handle the intermod generated at modern communications sites.

    and by the way the county legislators voted unaminously to fund the system.

  10. Posted · Edited by ff026

    All that money for a new system, and we will still be dispatched on low band [46.180]. Go figure!

    yes because in the intial stages of planning the radio system UHF paging was not an option. all of our channels are licensed for YW which in FCC terms means CENTRALIZED TRUNKED RELAY. spectrum is tight in this area and there was none available to get a non trunked paging channel. the trunking system will be HARD PATCHED into the lowband system so units can still be heard responding.

    if you look at all of the licenses they are 90 Watts ERP. there are going to be between 10 to 13 sites to cover the county.

    the system is designed for 95% "IN STREET ON HIP" coverage. which translates to 4 watt portable on your hip in the street with no Public Safety mic covering 95% of the county.

    where is the 5% that is not covered? mostly in Harriman state park.

    Now, if they can manage to improve the low band coverage with all these new antenna sites they're supposed to be constructing, that will help somewhat.

    Low band is not going to be added or deleted in anyway. the existing base stations for the county are staying where they are. there are 4 Low Band sites in the county. The main transmitter is on Cheesecoat Mountain its a 330 watt lowband base. Mt nebo in Nyack is the "Orangetown remote" it is a 100 watt base.

    Pine Grove in sloatsburgh is the "Sloatsburgh Remote" it is a 100 watt base. and the 4th Base station is in back of the FTC it is a 300 wat base station. All paging comes out of cheesecoate no matter what part of the county you are in. but for Dept's who require the orangetown or sloatsburgh remotes the voice message after the intial page is 1st transmitted over the "remote bases" then over cheesecoate.

    Without knowing the details it sounds a lot like the System Westchester County is in trying to implement

    it is a totally different animal than the westchester county system. it is going to be a P25 simulcast system. the main difference is in the proprietary nature of the westchester county system. Westchester's is a Motorola SMARTZONE system. which means you must by portables, mobiles, control stations and consoles from Motorola.

    Rocklands is an open standard Project 25 system. there are about 10 different manufactures who build equipment for P25 standards so you can buy whatever types of mobiles , portables, control stations and consoles you want.

    rockland's is also going to be digital all the time on the TRUNKING SYSTEM only. to explain the simulcast aspect: all of the sites in the system TRANSMIT at once. that means however many sites we have all of them transmit at once. ite greatly improves the coverage footprint.

    the easiest way to remember is: portables and mobiles from westchester WILL NOT work on the rockland system. Portables and Mobiles from rockland WILL work on the westchester system.

    Now about INTEROPABLITY: there are a group fo frequencies the FCC has put aside that can be licensed by region called the V-TAC's and U-TAC's. there are already being explored by rockland to set up intercounty communications.

    It won't be heard.... I don't know much about you system, but I am pretty sure you Tac channels will stay the same

    that is exactlly how it is going to happen fireground communications will remain ANALOG SIMPLEX.

  13. Posted · Edited by ff026

    Ok thats nice very happy for you must be a nice view of the gethto. But the address of the building (fire house) is 2175 Walton avenue. And that is all I posted to the guy who asked not for you to give your lifes story about what you see.

    Ok thats nice very happy for you must be a nice view of the gethto.

    its GHETTO, and i dont live there i work there.

    i was trying to make it easier for him to find. walton ave is a narrow one way street. i was trying to be helpful and give him the best way to get there not just state the obvious. anyone can look something up online. i was trying to give him some insight and make it easy to find.

    and he didnt ask for the adress he asked if anyone knew the location of the new firehouse.

  15. Posted

    it is down the street a few more blocks off of Cameron place. it is not on Jerome Ave anymore. If you go south on jerome past the firehouse cameron place is on the left after clinton place. so you go to w 183 then buchanan place, then w182 st then clinton and cameron is on your left. it is on the east side of jerome ave.

    On a recent patch hunt in the Bronx, I was going to Eng.75, Lad.33, Bat.19 at 2283 Jerome Ave., but there were no trucks there, just EMS rigs. The sign on the building said EMS Station 19. Anyone know where the new station is?

    I got the above address off of nycfire.net

    P.S. I know I'm a buff and have no live.

    ;)  B)

  16. Posted

    ffo26...the system you are speaking of in rockland now is similar to the one i described...first..why are they changing it...it seems to work and work well in rockland...and why can't they just do the same thing with a trunked system....? will need to have a trunked portable for each apparatus in case there is no officer and now the IC (chief or officer) will need 2 radios...I can't see how this is progress

    we are going to trunking for pure interoperability PD,FD, EMS will all be on the trunking system.

    they way i described it you dont need to portables . the mobile trunking radio can remoted to the pump panel for communications with the dispatcher and incoming units.

    i believe that the pyramid mobile repeaters can be interfaced nto the XTL- or MCS line of radio's. i know there are settings in the pyramid to do trunking.

  17. Posted

    ok just wanted to weigh in on this one.

    1st my background... radio tech for 5 years... back ground in communications... working on the committe for rocklands new system.

    2nd not to pull a "hey we are better than you" but in rockland all dept's use UHF fireground. the county has 6 low power UHF offsets licensed. on all UHF radio's they are the 1st 6 channels, after that you can do what you want. TAC 1 is the vehicle repeaters. TAC 2-6 are the fireground channels. all dispatching and pre arrival takes place on lowband and all fireground takes place on UHF. all pump operators/drivers have there own radio's and most trucks carry an additional 3 radio's. all chiefs and officer's have there own radio's. most chiefs if not all have rear mic's and speakers in the rear area of the car to talk to 44 control. like i said all fireground is on UHF and tranmissions to control and responding units is on low band.

    we use multiple low band cahnnels upon a large incident or prolonged incident. all vehicle repeaters must have "1st man out priority" that is the ability and logic circuts to turn each other on and off. my dept use's the repeaters as 2 ways. one way is if there is no chiefs car on scene the officer or driver of the 1st rig(if there is no officer) can use the repater to talk to control, or they have the driver pump operator relay the messages and answer over the truck low band radio. the second way we use the Vehicle repeaters is as an emergency tool. all of our radios are either HT750's or Officers have HT1250's. if there is a mayday situation and they cant be heard on the fireground, and need to be heard by 44 control they member can do 1 of 2 things. either turn the channel selector all the way to the right or left to use the vehicle repeater channel or press the ORANGE emergency button and the will be taken to the vehicle repeater channel.

    now as far as using your existing portables on your new system or all trunking portables for fireground radios remember a few things. there is a NFPA guidline warning of not using 3 things for fireground point to point communications. 1) use analog only transmissions, 2) use SIMPLEX non repeated frequencies, 3) use conventional SIMPLEX non trunking Frequencies.

    i forsee when the rockland system is built out that most departments will keep there existing radio's in the trucks for fireground. all mobile radio's will be trunking MOBILES with pump panel mic and speakers. all chiefs and officers will have trunking portables. the channel layout will have to be changed to accomodate the use of the fireground channels and the trunking system in the radios. ex: physical channel on on a trunking radio would be Dispatch on the trunking system and physical channel 2 would be tac 2 low power fire ground, physical channel 3 on a trunking radio would be say command and physical channel 4 would be tac 3 low power fireground. on non trunking radio's in place of the trunking channels you could have blank unprogrammed channels.

    im sure your committe an vendor have thought of these contigencies and are waiting till the system is ready to be used and turned over to start coming out with guidlines to reprogram radio's.

  20. Posted

    i think leo is not guilty and robert d is a great person an actor

    you have to be kidding me? he is guilty of more than criminal trespass.

    he is a POS, this isnt his 1st run in with the law.

    he is a junkie burgler, accesory to murder and should never be allowed to act or breath air as a free man again, except "act" like he likes it as he bends over for BUBBA in the shower.

    and"Booby D" is your typical hollywood liberal POS.

    im sure in 25 years for now there will be a free lilo rallying cry like the one for "tookie" with the famous "new witness" or "new evidence" spin.

  21. Posted

    Date:12-9-05

    Time:15:57

    Location:10 Addison Boyce Drive (Town of Clarkstown)

    Departments:Dept 6 (Hillcrest FD), Dept 9 (New City FD), Dept 17 (Spring Valley FD), Dept. 8 (Nanuet); Clarkstown PD, Rockland Medics.

    Description: Heavy fire in a 1-story ranch style P/D.

    Writer: FF026, Truck4

    15:57Dept 6 dispatched on Intial to Unknown Type fire in residence. call back advised house on fire possible trapped occupant.

    15:59 6-2 on scene advising working structure.

    16:00 6-Command requesting 1 pumper w manpower from Dept 9

    16:01 6-Command requesting 17 Tanker to the scene , advising all residents out of building 60x60 building 3/4's fully involved.

    16:02 6-Command requesting alternate response be put in service for Dept 6.

    1627hrs- M/A New City (Dept 9) for 9-Rescue to scene.

    1640hrs- M/A Nanuet (Dept. 8) for Engine and 8-Patrol to scene.

  23. Posted

    any of you guys in westchester know about this? i got this from a westchester news group:

    FDNY EMS Citywide channel 1 has been jammed for two days. Someone is

    crossbanding the 6 meter westchester FD freq into FDNY EMS radio. They

    have asked me N2ROW and the Ham community to help located the signal.

    Radio repair states it might be coming from Manhattan. Radio repair is

    out in westchester now trying to find the signal. All that can help

    please listen to 481.0125 and please email me or call me at Fire

    Headquarters 718-999-1436 or on my repeater 441.100 pl 136.5.

    velezrd@fdny.nyc.gov

    Thanks

    73

    Rich N2ROW

  24. Posted

    from the official site:

    Qualifications:

    Four year high school diploma or its equivalent. One year full time paid experience performing clerical duties; or public contact work requiring obtaining information; or 30 college credits or two years active military duty with honorable discharge.

    Salary: $27,957 and can increase to $35,346

    New York City residency is required within 90 days of appointment.

    Entry into higher level positions, other than through promotional exams, depends on the applicant's prior training, education and experience and the job requirements for the position.

    Positions in all titles are not always available and some titles require succesful completion of a competitive exam.

    they should also have must speak english as a FIRST language, half the time you cant understand most of em.

  25. Posted

    That, or make people who commute alone pay a higher toll, or double the toll altogether during the rush hour.

    whoa there. the tolls are high enough. i commute alone everday, granted it is on off hours but i do not have anyone to commute with. and do to the nature of my work it doesnt pay to share a commute if another person gets stuck at work.

    the bridge has no breakdown lane or shoulder at all. there is also ZERO enforcement of the speed limit on the bridge.