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    Firefighter, Elderly Couple Killed in Fire

    http://www.wnep.com/Global/story.asp?S=758...p;nav=menu158_2

    Sunday, January 6, 11:11 a.m.

    The Scranton fire chief confirmed a 26-year veteran of the Scranton Fire Department died while fighting a blaze Sunday morning in Lackawanna County. Officials also said an elderly couple was killed.

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    Scranton firefighter Captain Jim Robson died while responding to a fire on Ash Street.

    Investigators said the fire started at an apartment building on Ash Street around 7:15 a.m. Sunday.

    Officials said Captain Jim Robson was killed while trying to help fight the fire. Robson was in the bucket of a ladder truck when the bucket came in contact with power lines. Three other firefighters were also injured in the incident but their injuries are not life-threatening.

    The Scranton fire chief also confirmed that an elderly couple died in the fire. Their names have not been released.

    State police will now be investigating what caused the deadly fire in Scranton.

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    Investigators said an elderly couple also died in the Sunday morning fire.

  2. Posted

    Cause of 115 Fatal Injuries:

    55 Stress/Overexertion 47.8%

    26 Vehicle Collision 22.6%

    19 Caught/Trapped 16.5%

    4 Fall 3.47%

    4 Collapse 3.47%

    3 Struck by 2.60%

    2 Lost 1.73%

    1 Other 0.86%

    1 Contact with 0.86%

    We talk about reducing the number of LODD's. Can't we review this list to determine how we can?

    The first two items seem to me to be the area where we can achieve the greatest reduction.

    We have discussed on this site firefighter rehab. Could Stress / Overexertion be reduced with great awareness toward firefight rehab?

    Vehicle Collision - Could better driver training help?

  3. Posted

    Received this from the County today. I'm sure many of you get this as well.

    I think it would be important for this list to be discussed after you review it.

    FROM:

    John E. Jackson,

    Deputy Commissioner/Fire Coordinator

    Westchester County Dept. of Emergency Services

    " Omnis Cedo Domus"

    FYI , once again 115 firefighters gave their lives in 2007. God bless their souls and their families.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Subject: HOW FIREFIGHTERS WERE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY IN 2007, from USFA

    HOW FIREFIGHTERS WERE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY IN 2007:

    Preliminary report

    Thursday, January 3, 2008

    Number of On-Duty Firefighter Fatalities as per USFA: 115

    Count of Hometown Heroes: 8

    Classification:

    49 Career 42.6%

    3 Wildland Full-Time 2.60%

    2 Paid-on-Call 1.73%

    59 Volunteer 51.3%

    1 Wildland Contract 0.86%

    1 Industrial 0.86%

    Number of Multiple Firefighter Fatality Incidents: 7

    Number of Firefighter Fatalities Associated with Wildland

    Incidents: 10

    Type of Duty:

    24 Responding 20.8%

    11 Training 9.56%

    37 On-Scene Fire 32.1%

    8 On-Scene Non-Fire 6.95%

    13 After 11.3%

    20 Other On-Duty 17.3%

    2 Returning 1.73%

    Percent of Fatalities Related to Emergency Duty: 64.3%

    Number of firefighter fatalities associated with

    suspicious/arson fires: 2

    Type of Incident:

    5 Wildland 4.34%

    48 Structure Fire 41.7%

    7 MVA 6.08%

    3 Hazmat 2.60%

    6 EMS 5.21%

    1 Tech Rescue 0.86%

    1 Outside Fire 0.86%

    1 False Alarm 0.86%

    41 Not Incident Related 35.6%

    1 Other 0.86%

    1 Unknown 0.86%

    Cause of Fatal Injury:

    19 Caught/Trapped 16.5%

    1 Contact with 0.86%

    4 Fall 3.47%

    55 Stress/Overexertion 47.8%

    4 Collapse 3.47%

    3 Struck by 2.60%

    26 Vehicle Collision 22.6%

    2 Lost 1.73%

    1 Other 0.86%

    Nature of Fatal Injury:

    16 Asphyxiation 13.9%

    3 Crushed 2.60%

    7 Burns 6.08%

    2 CVA 1.73%

    33 Trauma 28.6%

    1 Electrocution 0.86%

    52 Heart Attack 45.2%

    1 Other 0.86%

    Age of Firefighter When the Fatal Injury Was Sustained:

    5 - Under 21

    6 - 21 to 25

    9 - 26 to 30

    26 - 31 to 40

    31 - 41 to 50

    21 - 51 to 60

    16 - 61 and Over

    Percent of Firefighter Fatalities Under Age 40 37.4%

    Type of Activity:

    14 S&R 12.1%

    2 IC 1.73%

    11 Advance Hose Lines 9.56%

    2 Extrication 1.73%

    1 Standby 0.86%

    3 Ventilation 2.60%

    24 Responding 20.8%

    3 Support 2.60%

    3 Water Supply 2.60%

    1 Scene Safety 0.86%

    2 Other 1.73%

    2 Unknown 1.73%

    46 Not On Scene 40%

    1 Unknown 0.86%

    Time of Fatal Injury:

    9 0100-0259

    4 0300-0459

    3 0500-0659

    4 0700-0859

    14 0900-1059

    13 1100-1259

    7 1300-1459

    12 1500-1659

    8 1700-1859

    19 1900-2059

    6 2100-2259

    11 2300-0059

    5 Unknown

    Month of the Year:

    8 January 6.95%

    11 February 9.56%

    7 March 6.08%

    7 April 6.08%

    13 May 11.3%

    15 June 13.0%

    13 July 11.3%

    14 August 12.1%

    10 September 8.69%

    5 October 4.34%

    6 November 5.21%

    6 December 5.21%

    Firefighter Fatalities by State by Location of Fire Service

    Organization:

    3 Alabama 2.60%

    1 Arkansas 0.86%

    1 Arizona 0.86%

    8 California 6.95%

    1 Connecticut 0.86%

    1 District of Columbia 0.86%

    4 Florida 3.47%

    1 Georgia 0.86%

    2 Idaho 1.73%

    5 Illinois 4.34%

    3 Indiana 2.60%

    5 Kansas 4.34%

    3 Kentucky 2.60%

    1 Louisiana 0.86%

    4 Massachusetts 3.47%

    1 Maryland 0.86%

    1 Maine 0.86%

    5 Michigan 4.34%

    1 Mississippi 0.86%

    8 North Carolina 6.95%

    1 Nebraska 0.86%

    5 New Jersey 4.34%

    9 New York 7.82%

    5 Ohio 4.34%

    1 Oklahoma 0.86%

    10 Pennsylvania 8.69%

    11 South Carolina 9.56%

    3 Tennessee 2.60%

    3 Texas 2.60%

    1 Utah 0.86%

    1 Virginia 0.86%

    1 Washington 0.86%

    2 Wisconsin 1.73%

    3 West Virginia 2.60%

    Firefighter Fatalities by State by Location of Fatal Incident:

    3 Alabama 2.60%

    1 Arkansas 0.86%

    1 Arizona 0.86%

    9 California 7.82%

    1 Connecticut 0.86%

    1 District of Columbia 0.86%

    4 Florida 3.47%

    1 Georgia 0.86%

    1 Idaho 0.86%

    5 Illinois 4.34%

    3 Indiana 2.60%

    5 Kansas 4.34%

    3 Kentucky 2.60%

    1 Louisiana 0.86%

    4 Massachusetts 3.47%

    2 Maryland 1.73%

    1 Maine 0.86%

    5 Michigan 4.34%

    1 Mississippi 0.86%

    8 North Carolina 6.95%

    1 Nebraska 0.86%

    5 New Jersey 4.34%

    8 New York 6.95%

    5 Ohio 4.34%

    1 Oklahoma 0.86%

    10 Pennsylvania 8.69%

    11 South Carolina 9.56%

    3 Tennessee 2.60%

    3 Texas 2.60%

    1 Utah 0.86%

    1 Virginia 0.86%

    1 Washington 0.86%

    2 Wisconsin 1.73%

    3 West Virginia 2.60%

  8. Posted · Edited by huzzie59

    Sounds like the patient is alive; he wasn't further injured by the extication process; C-spine wasn't compromised. We know it wasn't Pleasantville's first day with a Hurst Tool.

    Sounds like level, professional, experienced heads prevailed.

    Who here can't say it wouldn't have taken your dept. 4 hours for the job.

    If someone can get to the people who actually worked the job, get their imput.

    What was their thought process?

    What did they do?

    And why did they do it?

  16. Posted

    While I am also not a fan of this tactic, it reminds me of a call I was on several years ago: my Chief called a neighboring Rescue into a scene of a heavily involved taxpayer to fill bottles. Manpower of the said Rescue, and Chiefs of this dept. complained after a while b/c they weren't put to work, as sufficient manpower was fighting the fire, and continued to complain until we finally just sent them home. Finally, my Chief looked at me and said "Never again will I call them, they are distracting me from running this job." This dept. has done it several times since this fire to other dept.'s.

    I ask you guys, what then? I hate skipping departments to call another, but bringing conflict to your fireground is nervewracking and uncalled for. Are there exceptions to this, or do we deal with it b/c they are closest? What do you guys think?

    What if there had been a past history between the Chiefs or departments wherein the mutual aid company didn't believe in incident command and started freelancing.

    The home chief may be doing "the right thing".

    Just a thought.

    Only the department involved can answer.

  20. Posted

    A couple of police agency SOP's on the web,(cut and paste link).

    http://less-lethal.org/docs/35/UOD_SOP6.pdf

    http://www.tampagov.net/dept_Police/inform...0/sop_521.2.asp

    Columbua Ohio:

    20. Taser post-use

    a. Any subject upon whom the taser is used, in either probe or drive stun

    mode, shall be examined by EMS personnel and shall remain under

    observation by sworn personnel until slated or released.

    b. Sworn personnel shall request an EMS unit respond to the scene to

    remove any probes that have penetrated the skin or to care for wounds

    caused by probes that penetrated but fell out. Sworn personnel shall

    not remove the probes.

    (1) If the subject is transported to a medical facility, sworn personnel

    shall ride in the medic unit and remain with the subject until further

    medical attention has been offered.

    (2) Sworn personnel shall call EMS personnel to the scene if any signs

    or symptoms of medical distress become evident.

    c. Sworn personnel shall provide the subject with the Taser Aftercare form,

    S-70.112.

    d. Sworn personnel shall treat the taser cartridge and probes as evidence

    and shall secure and submit them to the Property Room. This does not

    apply to accidental discharges when no subject is struck. Probes that

    have penetrated the skin should be treated as a biohazard and proper

    precautions should be taken when handling and packaging them.

  25. Posted

    I'm not convinced, honestly. I am so frusterated. I'm actually embarrased that there are high school kids more mature then some people who call themselves firefighters. It's sickening to me to see this, and to all the people crying about this issue, and demanding it be swept under the rug.

    It's time these issues start coming to light. These are issues that have been brewing for years and years, and no one wants to take any action.

    As far as "doing our jobs" as moderators and administrators, as I'm going to announce later this weekend, this board will be taking a very significant change in it's mission. For almost four years now, I've seen these same problems resurface again and again, and I'm sick of it. I'm at the point where we start using this board to rally changes, learn from one another, or I shut it down.

    Also, as seen in other threads, if you're confident in your operations and the way the incident was handled, then you shouldn't be so defensive. Simply explain why the actions taken were taken, so that we are all on the same level. Don't cry that this thread should be shut down because you don't like what people are saying, and not lauding you with praise.

    Nobody is saying Tarrytown did a bad job, however people are trying to look at the incident and see how we can do it better in the future. If your complacent with the way you do things, then you need to get out of this business fast. There's always something to be learned, and those without an open mind are basically killing themselves.

    What people are saying, is the way they actually feel. How are we supposed to handle and work out our problems if we can't even talk about them?

    It's not about I, It's about WE So what's your resolution, to keep sweeping this problem under the rug????

    Then for any questions, all of the people actually involved, IC, chiefs, officers, etc. need to be involved in the initial discussion. Set up a forum to critique incidents after getting input from the actual people involved. A "newsreport" per se from a reporter who knows what questions to ask.