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  1. Posted

    Amazing.

    Flashback a couple of years ago to the fire in the Nodine Hill section of Yonkers. Did any of Westchester's volunteer FD's get called? Mmmm.....nope. Does Yonkers border volunteer Fire Departments.....yup.

    Did anyone bring up the fact that Yonkers never called for help from their neighboring volunteer Fire Departments? YES, and it IMMEDIATELY got locked!

    Nobody can argue that Yonkers and Tarrytown are like night and day. One is fully paid with fulll crews on their apparatus doing thousands of calls per year. And unless I am missing something - Tarrytown isn't doing that kind of a work load, and to date it is all done by volunteer personnel.

    How come it is acceptable for an incident like the Hackley School Fire to be used as a catalyst for the never-ending whining of the Paid vs. Volunteer issue?

    Everyone wants to be treated like professionals - and I'm sorry, but those of you crying because you didn't get called.....STOP!

    I belong to a Department that doesn't get called to places we border for personality issues and a crap-load of the "We're better then them" mentality. It's all horseshit! No single Department in my book is sooooooo great that they will never need to use Mutual Aid. Explain to those that lose their homes, their dreams and sometimes their lives why you didn't call your neighboring FD who is five or less minutes away. Tell them because "They don't call you" or "We don't like them" or "They're not our drinking buddies" or "They're only volunteer" or "They're paid and they won't help us."

    GIVE ME A F***ING BREAK!!!!!!

    Nobody has an over-abundance of manpower in Westchester unless there is a secret stash somewhere. If I am an IC, I am calling those CLOSEST TO ME, PAID, VOLUNTEER, WHATEVER for manpower. If I need specialized resources, such as Haz-Mat or Tech-Rescue, I don't care if Yonkers R1 pulls up and asks me to get the hell out of their way! They know what they are doing - my ego isn't too big to know when I am beyond my abilities!!!!

    I am so tired of hearing this debate - we all know that Paid FFs undergo FAR MORE TRAINING initially and annually then 99.9% of us volunteers. We are our own worst enemies. How many Westchester Departments haven't even been to the Fire Training Center in 2007? How many of you can say you have trained at least 100 hours like the career guys have to? I know our Department strives like hell to get there, but only a fraction of the membership actually gives a spit and accomplishes it.

    As for the Battalion thing - NO COMMENT. Our FD is in a Battalion where neighboring Departments don't call each other because of reasons beyond me.

    Hey Tarrytown and all involved at Hackley - good job, wish I could of pitched in.

    I'm done with this.

    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Posted

    The area of this fire is basically abandoned.

    Info from some websites:

    "The "Saint Louis National Stock Yards" opened in 1873 and incorporated as "National City, Illinois" in 1907. The National Stock Yards closed in 1997 after a devastating fire. As part of the closing, the estimated 50 residents of National City were evicted and the village was dissolved."

    "St. Clair County Board v. Village of National City, 292 Ill. App. 3d 428, 685 N.E.2d 668, 226 Ill. Dec. 413 (5th Dist. 1997). The County Board filed a petition seeking to dissolve the village. Upon request of the Board, the United States Census Bureau conducted a special census of the village which found the village had zero inhabitants. The circuit court granted the Board's petition. The village appealed, arguing that Section 7-6-7 of the Municipal Code was misinterpreted. The village claimed that a special census could not be the basis for dissolution of a municipality when the population was determined by a preceding annual census. According to the last preceding census, National City had 57 inhabitants. Section 7-6-7 provides that any municipality with less than 50 inhabitants can be ordered to dissolve. This court found that the existence of a population of fewer than 50 could be discovered either in the last preceding federal census or through a special census. Furthermore, due to the difficulties of providing police and fire protection in small municipalities, this court found it was unreasonable to force a county to wait until the next decennial census to determine whether the population has fallen. The dissolution of National City was affirmed."

    The trucks, or truck, probably didn't run. With no residents, there probably are no members to that dept.

    Sad!

  4. Posted

    As one persons view of the Hackley School fire in Tarrytown last week our department "did it right". There was only one firefighter transported due to the heat.

    The following actions were performed to combat heat related problems:

    Tarrytown has a "Disaster Team" that activates during every working fire. They "tend to" the firefighters and assist with water, food, etc. They were on scene within a 1/2 hour of the first alarm.

    TFD's Utility truck carrys a stock of water and gatorade. And many of the trucks carry some sully of water.

    Tarrytown VAC was dispatched along with the first alarm and set up a rehab area.

    After the first few hours, a number of our local village officials started to arrive and ask what they could do. Do to the size of the operation more resources were needed. They arrainged for food and water from local stores. One village trustee went to the Tarrytown Marriot and came back with his SUV loaded with donated towels. These towels were soaked in ice water and given to everyone who wanted one.

    A BeeLine bus was brought to the scene for an air-conditioned rehab area.

    And most importantly, the officer's in charge required all firefigthers to be rotated in and out of assignments. As important to putting out the fire was to the chiefs, the health of all involved was more important. As can be seen in the other thread, many mutual aid companies responded. A good number of them strickly for manower.

  9. Posted

    W. Islip teen charged in DWI hit-and-run

    BY SOPHIA CHANG

    sophia.chang@newsday.com

    July 19, 2007, 9:37 PM EDT

    Two West Islip volunteer firefighters were in critical but stable condition after an intoxicated high schooler struck them with her Honda Accord just a block away from the firehouse early Thursday, then drove several blocks before police arrested her, authorities said.

    Thomas Devlin, 19, and Joseph Ortiz, 18, who are both college students volunteering with the West Islip Fire Department, were taken to Good Samaritan Hospital Medical Center in West Islip with head trauma and other injuries, said West Islip Fire Department Chief Mike Delgado.

    Grim-faced relatives and friends who gathered in the hospital lobby after the two underwent surgery Thursday afternoon declined to comment.

    The 17-year-old driver, Jillian Lazinsky, of 20 Seabreeze Lane in West Islip, was arraigned Thursday in front of First District Court Judge Paul Hensley on charges of driving while intoxicated and leaving the scene of an accident with personal injury, authorities said. She pleaded not guilty and posted $10,000 cash bail, according to her lawyer, David Besso of Bay Shore.

    Lazinsky, who will be a senior at West Islip High School this fall, submitted a blood test at the Third Precinct after her arrest, and the results are pending, Besso said. He added, "she's very concerned for the health and welfare of the firefighters."

    On Wednesday night, Ortiz and Devlin were at the West Islip firehouse for mandatory training until 10 p.m., Delgado said. They then started their overnight shifts as part of the EMS duty crew, where responders are on call 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. Delgado said many of the volunteer firefighters on EMS duty typically wait at the firehouse during much of the shift, as Ortiz and Devlin did that night.

    Three hours into their shift, the two and another volunteer firefighter, Alyssa Saenz of West Islip, decided to make a snack run to the convenience store around the corner from the firehouse on Union Boulevard, Delgado said.

    "Around 1 a.m., they were talking about going to get Slurpees at the 7-Eleven," he said. Police said Lazinsky struck Devlin and Ortiz as they crossed Higbie Lane near Union Boulevard, and she left without stopping.

    Saenz, who walked behind Ortiz and Devlin when they crossed the street and was not hit by the car, notified two nearby Suffolk police detectives about the incident, authorities said. Police arrested Lazinsky several blocks away on Udalia Road. Her next court date is Tuesday in Central Islip.

    Delgado said Ortiz and Devlin were close friends. "We're all hurting right now," he said. "The fire service is one big family and it's two of our own."

    Copyright 2007 Newsday Inc.

  20. Posted

    just the fact you thought that they as firefighters  should cut the park grass and be happy about it ?????  lets see what do you do for a living,  and ask you to do someone elses work.  Hell why dont they pick up garbage  and paint park benches, trim trees  who needs any other city workers  we got firefighters  blink.gif

    Before looking at the call numbers, I assumed they would have only had one or two calls per day.

    A volunteer dept. that has DPW/Parks Dept/Highway workers responding do the same thing.

    But, like everything else, I needed to look closer to the circumstances surrounding this situation. It doesn't seem they would have the time to mow the grass.

    They have 15 firefighters per shift. Maybe they have too many firefighters.

    And for the company I work for, I do whatever I need to do. The success of any organization is members that are willing to do whatever it takes.

  21. Posted

    Sorry got interupted by an ambulance call.

    Here are their run totals:

    2004: 6,802 total runs

    EMS RUNS = 5,061

    FIRE RUNS = 1,741

    -structure fires = 36

    2005: 6,361 total runs

    EMS RUNS = 4,948

    FIRE RUNS = 1,412

    - GSW = 29

    -structure fires = 28

    2006: 5,221 total runs

    - GSW = 30

    - structure fires = 51

    At first I was going to say they must have all the time in the world to cut grass and may even be happy for something to do. But they are real busy for such a small area.

    And unless all these calls come after 5pm, then who has time to cut grass?

  22. Posted

    East Cleveland Fire Station 1

    1822 Marloes Avenue

    East Cleveland, Ohio 44112

    East Cleveland Fire Station 2

    14301 Shaw Avenue

    East Cleveland, Ohio 44112

    East Cleveland Demographics

    As of the census of 2000, there are 27,217 people

    The population density is 8,761.8/mi².

    the city has a total area of 3.1 mi²

    Village of Tarrytown is the same size and has a population of 11,090. Population density of 3,724 /mi²

    54 employees of a city the size of Tarrytown, 15 men per shift?

  24. Posted

    For me it seems that if a question is asked, it needs to be worded a certain way or else it ruffles the feathers of the department, chief, officer, etc. that the question is directed about.

    I like to learn from other people's example.

    I'm not into the volunteer vs. paid stuff fighting although I agree there is a place to question things about paid departments and volunteer departments.

    I'm no expert about firefighting or ems, but I do have opinions and more importantly questions.

    And when a question is asked, the person responding to the question should feel free to answer the questions without getting beat-up over their answer.