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Don't think I ever heard a toner dust starting a fire! Pretty bizarre! Recordonline.com

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I was not trying to attack or point fingers at the work the County does. I did not say you guys are idiots or suck at directions or anything along those lines. I was simply bringing up an incident in which I saw them out and about. This is a thread about them not being out and about so I was mentioning an instance when they were. I was not assuming they were clueless, I was saying that I saw them go code on down one road and then back the same way apparently missing the sharp right turn which FYI lots and lots of people do! You can not know the full story until you bring it up in threads such as this and people fill you in or elaborate on them. That is the purpose of sharing knowledge, correct? I think we are referring to different events. I was speaking of an event that I believe was in Valhalla not Hawthorne. Also I do not believe it could have been late winter when I saw the rig because I am not away at school during that time frame. Either way, as I said, I have seen the truck out...thats all. As far as freezing, try the North County! (Just kidding) Does TRT go to collapse calls? Is the Tech Rescue truck the same as the collapse unit? Meaning same rig?

The names and hints that made it easy to figure out the names of the departments were removed. And I agree, all I care is that when someone needs FD or EMS, they get it quickly.

Absolutely! I was sitting Gordos Restuarant in Hawthrone, NY after a monthly meeting (which means that this was the second Thursday of a month this summer) At approximately 21:00 hours I heard sirens that sounded to be approaching Gordos from the south. I turned around in my chair and positioned myself to be able to se out the window (as did the other emergency service personnel that I was eating with). We then observed a Westchester County rig pass by Gordos traveling north bound from Elwood Ave to Commerce St. I believe that this was the Collapse unit (We believe this is what we read on the side of the rig). Approximately 4 minutes later, we heard sirens approaching Gordos once again. However, this time they were coming from the north. We once again positioned ourselves to see out the windows facing Commerce St. We then noticed the same exact truck passing by us again! This time instead of going back onto Elwood Ave, they continued to the left (up the hill) on Commerce St. I ten asked around and someone said that a department had unstable house due to (If I remember correctly) a car going into the house. The Collapse unit was requested to assist in shoring up the house. I believe this call was in Valhalla and the direction of travel taken by the rig supports this. Require further? Hopefully not, I think that is all I have. P.S. You should jump on the case of the poster directly before this one. Sounds like another case of hear say... ATTENTION: Gordos is a great place to eat and/or enjoy a drink or two. The employees are GREAT and so is the food! I highly recommend it.

Date: 2-17-2011 Time: 18:00 Location: Route 17K and Route 208 Frequency: Orange County Dispatch Units Operating: Montgomery FD E219, R222, M220, Car 3 Weather Conditions: Clear, 34 Degrees Description Of Incident: MVA involving a Police Officer. Police Officer transport with minor injuries. Several RMA's taken on scene. Reporters: PFDRes47cue; BFD1054; INIT915 Writer: PFDRes47cue

Towards the end of the summer I believe. It was the first time I saw the Collapse Rig in action.

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I saw the Collapse Rig once when it was dispatched to help shore up a house. It took a long time to get there because they drove up and down a street in the wrong town due to being lost. I guess they don't have county radios that they can use to contact 60 for directions, or a phone to landline 60, or perhaps a GPS!!!

I have operated at several "extended" calls. Usually fuel is not an issue. Trucks should always be topped off for this reason. With that said, I have seen trucks needing to be refueled while operating at a scene. Sometimes, someone comes in and does this other times, the truck leaves the scene if another is around to take over its role. On one occasion, on scene fueling was needed for a truck that had a fuel leak that was discovered on scene. Not much you can do but stop the leak and then refuel ASAP.

I also disagree with you posting the names of the departments. With that said, all FD's or VAC's have their issues. Of course you want to get out the door real quick for all calls, but sometimes, the personnel are just not available for some reason or another. Having to call another department to cover a call, yes it is not good, but does happen. The important thing is that an FD or VAC shows up for the call. Everyone has their good and bad days. I don't think it is a good idea to discuss it because in all honesty, your VAC could have the same problem getting out tomorrow. People are so quick to point out when other agencies have trouble getting out but when it is your own department...excuse after excuse comes out. Mutual aids happen, get over it and get out for the next one. What VAC/FD are you part of? You name the agencies that are involved in the incident and the ons that your are pointing fingers out but don't name yours? Why is this? Do you think that if people new your FD or VAC they would know when you and your fellow members fail to get out in a timely manner or at all? All I'm saying is that from my experience with discussions like this on this forum and others, when someone points a finger at one agency, shortly after people are pointing fingers right back because your agency could not get out.

Date: 2-17-2011 Time: 03:05 Location: 76-05 Main St. Frequency: FDNY Queens Dispatch Units Operating: FDNY Queens Weather Conditions: Cold Description Of Incident: Working fire in a 2-story 150x100 commercial structure. 2nd alarm transmitted for extention into a 1-story 100x50 commercial fruit market. Reporters/Writer: PFDRes47cue

Date: 2-17-2011 Time: 10:39 Location: 17-10 Steinway St Frequency: FDNY Queens Dispatch Units Operating: FDNY Queens Weather Conditions: Nice Description Of Incident: Injured worker stuck on scaffolding 3 stories up. Reporters/Writer: PFDRes47cue Box Assignment: Rescue 4 Squad 270 Battalion 49 Division 14

Thanks for the info.

Date: 2-16-2011 Time: 17:29 Location: Hudson River X W. 55th St. Frequency: FDNY Manhattan Dispatch Units Operating: FDNY Manhattan; NYPD Weather Conditions: Cold Description Of Incident: Person entered the water and submerged approximately 20 feet off shore. Took about 30 minutes to remove the victim. Victim removed in cardiac arrest. Reporters/Writer: PFDRes47cue Box Assignment: Engines: 40, 23, 54 Ladder: 35 (Water Rescue Unit), 4 Battalion 9 Rescue 1 Marine 1

When the reserve engines are called, how do these go about getting manned? Are certain houses assigned to certain reserve rigs? What is the time frame it takes to call back firefighters and get the reserve rigs on scene?

I was not speaking about NRFD nor do I recall pointing a finger at NRFD. It was a general comment. With all comments, there are always exceptions. And I don't recall saying that it is up to someone else to make decisions for firefighters in terms of there health. If I did for some reason I don't know why I would have said it since obviously a firefighters health and decisions related to it in terms of getting checked out are up to the firefighter.

That is correct. I spoke with a KFD member who explained it. Thanks.

That is correct. I spoke with a KFD member who explained it. Thanks.

I am not 100% positive it was in fact KFD's HQ, but for some reason it rings bell. I remember seeing it several years ago. Perhaps in the room with the poker table...I really am not sure. I've been in too many FD's in the past 5 years too remember each one. Also, I am not speaking negatively of KFD!! I think they do a great job and are a great group of people. Just trying to contributing a controversial item from memory.

Yes, I know they are to protect against violent crimes. I meant that they have the same basic purpose. Street boxes are for reporting fire related events and "blue boxes" are for reporting violent crimes to hopefully alert law enforcement before the crimes happen. But, say this box malfunctions like a street box and a young lady becomes victim to a violent crime. She had a cell phone but saw the "blue box" and used it to connect with the police but the box did not work. The school that is in charge of the boxes is responsible, right? I often hear of police departments responding to false calls that have come in through these "blue boxes." Or people push the button and get connected with the police but then walk away, leaving the dispatcher on the line with silence. So for the school, knowing that practically everyone has a cell phone and can dial 911 or the campus police number, is are the blue boxes worth maintaining? I would think no, but there sees to be more and more of these being placed on campuses.

Interesting. It definitely makes sense to get rid of them. A similar thread already exists. Thread On college campus across the country, there are the "blue stations" that have a direct connect to campus or town/city police. Are these worth maintaining? I would think the liability would be similar, if it were to malfunction.

This is true. Good point!

I am a firefighter/EMT and don't see rehab as an "EMS Prison." I see it as something that can and should be taken advantage of by firefighter. I do not like people getting in the way of my job as a firefighter but I also know that while I'm on my 5th bottle there are people outside who have only gone through 1 or maybe 2. If I can go over to "EMS Prison" for a few minutes to ensure that my blood pressure is at a good level, and let someone else get a little work, I will. I'm not saying that because I am part of an agency that has a rehab unit. I am saying that because it is the safest choice for me. With the amount of people standing around at 99.9% of fire incidents, a few people at a time going to rehab for say 10 minutes, is FAR from getting in the way of the firefighters and preventing them from doing their job. Who know maybe the 10 minutes spent in "EMS Prison," will catch something, get your levels back to a safe range, and save your life. allowing you to continue your job as a firefighter at the next alarm. If you die 2 hours after the alarm, does that not get in the way of your job as a firefighter? I would think so considering the fact that you're dead. In the end of the day, I do not think I have ever kept someone in "EMS Prison" for more than 10 minutes max...and all of the people I have rehabbed, have been thankful for the services. Doing everything possible to avoid "EMS Prison" sounds like an ego problem in which your ego is getting in the way of your smart thinking and safety. Does your family want to hear from THE CHIEF, "I'm sorry to say that due to your spouses decision to be inside on pack #9 and not get checked out in "EMS Prison", while 20 other firefighters stood outside waiting for the chance to use bottle #1, your husband/wife suffered a massive heart attack after the job and has passed away." Or would they prefer to hear, FROM YOU, "The fire was great today, I got to do a lot of work, then took a breather and got checked by EMS to make sure that I could go back and continue my hard work." In the end, it is up to the firefighter to make his/her own decisions in regard to his/her safety. You just have to hope that ego does not get in the way of smart thinking. A Firefighter is only as good as his team and the people who trust in him. They are trusting you to stay safe and show up for the next shift. If people want the rehab discussion to continue, a thread was started a while back that turned into a general rehab discussion... Rehab Thread Back to discussing the GREAt job done by NRFD and all the departments that worked the massive fire...