JBJ1202

What is the reason for the double axle on the tractor? I haven't seen that before on a TDA... what are the advantages and disadvantages of this? Beautiful truck BTW...

JBJ

They look AWESOME! Are they Lifelines?

Also, is Harrison EMS ever going to plan an expansion of their facilities so they can fit all their ambulances inside?

Another option is to relocate an ambulance to Purchase FD from 8am to midnight... But that is me just thinking out loud...

JBJ

Yes...

No Registration Deadline

$190/Person

Price Includes:

Cart & Greens Fee - Beverages on Course - Brunch - Cocktails - Dinner - Prizes

Schedule:

9:30 AM - Check In

9:30 AM - Brunch on the Terrace

11:00 AM - Shotgun Start

Cocktails & Dinner to Follow @ Purchase Fire Dept.

Contact Information:

(914) 253-9044

"...if you're qualified..."

What are the qualifications for this training?

JBJ

When I was in Vestal for the flooding a few years back I was assigned to an Engine with a seatbelt system with at least an audible alarm. I think systems like the product below are a homerun in regards to safety, especially in apparatus that the drivers and officers cannot visually confirm that all the passengers are secured. Do any departments have something like this in place? Likes/Dislikes?

http://www.fireresearch.com/seatmonitor.php

JBJ

Purchase FD

Engine 239 (1979 Seagrave/Refurb '90)

Pre-connected Lukas Combi-Tool

Engine 240 (2003 Seagrave)

Pre-connected Lukas cutter and spreader

Additional Combi-Tool

Composite Cribbing

Lukas Ram

Sawzall

Rescue 30 (2004 Seagrave)

Pre-connected Lukas cutters, spreader, and combi-tool

Battery powered Holtmotro combi-tool

Portable hydraulic generator

Lukas Ram

Wood Cribbing: 8x8, 6x6, 4x4, 2x4, wedges, and step chocks

Rescue Jack Stabilization System

Partner Saw with metal blade

Two Sawzalls

and more...

Rescue 30 and Engine 240 respond to all motor vehicle accidents

JBJ

We have been very pleased with the service from Fire One. Pumps, hose, and ground ladders are all done by them in a day or two.

http://www.fire-one.com/

JBJ

Hi,

Three separate fire districts run through Westchester County Airport property. Rye Brook/Port Chester, Armonk and Purchase. All three are the primary fire agencies for aircraft emergencies. All other fire or EMS incidents are only responded to by a single agency depending on which district is it in.

Greenwich, West Harrison, Chappaqua, and Banksville are the secondary fire agencies for major emergencies.

Armonk Fire, Port Chester/Rye/Rye Brook EMS, and Harrison EMS are the primary EMS agencies.

JBJ

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Date: 7/17/09

Time: 13:56

Location: I-684 Northbound MM 2.3

Frequency: Fire 19, FG 2

Units Operating: Rescue 30... Dispatcher 605 (Thanks)

Weather Conditions: Hot and Humid

Description Of Incident: Purchase FD was dispatched to a motor vehicle accident with injuries. Upon arrival Rescue 30 observed a Chevy Van that uprooted the guardrail and was wedged underneath it. No pin was found with the patient, but the door was spread back for better patient access. Harrison EMS transported patient ALS to Westchester Medical Center.

Writer: JBJ1202 (O/S)

What are some documents that discuss the proper methods of washing personal clothing/station uniform vs. structural firefighting PPE. I am looking for something that says you should not wash these two in the same machine (common sense aside).

NFPA 1581 5.5.4

"If structural fire-fighting equipment is to be cleaned at a fire department facility, a separate and dedicated machine for the sole purpose of cleaning structural fire-fighting equipment shall be provided."

This is good enough for me, but I am also looking for something in OSHA that states the same thing. I have searched through the CFR 1910 Occupational Safety and Health, as well as other areas, but I am not finding the similar writing. I might have completely passed over it, so if anyone could point me in the right direction that would be great.

Thanks

JBJ

I know we are not in FLA but unless it has changed you had to go to school, get certified as a firefighter prior to joining any career dept.(volunteer too?) Vol have gone thru the fire academt at Montour Falls along side career firefighters, if there were openings.

So what are you saying "but how can volunteers match the hours of training a career academy produces" are the career firefighters over trained? FF-1 is a joke, not enough hours , yet the powers that be wont admit that. The system is flawed.

Volunteers can get the same training, same hours it will take much longer and a training system must be put in place. But so long as the "ITS TO LONG NOW" sentiment is allowed to run the show there will be 2 different standards, with all the hard feelings along with it.

CAN'T is a strong word that I should not have used. It will make it more difficult to become a firefighter with those standards. It's not like we are trying to reinvent the wheel here. Some of these departments have the same standards for volunteers and career, and other have separate. I am not a member of either and cannot comment on the quality of firefighter these departments have. And yes...FF I should be longer, it is not too long already Capt. You can call it a volunteer academy if you want, but I believe it is possible to be successful with separate standards. If the only way for the hard feelings to go away is parity in training for then that is what has to be done.

http://www.co.hanover.va.us/fire-ems/training/tacademy.htm

Enough said!!!

Unless there is more involved then stated, it seems like the only state certificates received from this academy is FF I, FF II, Haz-Mat Ops, and FF Survival.

JBJ

I'm not sure I understand your comment. Does Maryland have two different standards for firefighter training? One for volunteers and another for career?

My concern is that there will be vast differences in training without a single common standard for "firefighter". No distinctions for interior, exterior, etc.; if you're a firefighter you have all the training to do the job.

To my knowledge the volunteers do not have to go through the same fire academy as the career firefighters. I am sure that there are people on this site that can speak more on the specific operations of the PGFD then I can. How can any volunteer commit to a four month, nine to five, five day a week academy? The answer is they can't. I do agree that there should be standards, but how can volunteers match the hours of training a career academy produces.

JBJ

I think its a unrealistict to think the communities that have 1 - 2 career members currently on a rig will get volunteers to do shifts. Look at the current response from the volunteers in those communities now, they do not have enough to staff 1 rig during an emergency, much less 24/7 and most of those members do not meet the minimum standards for interior (for volunteers).

One thing that I see in these combination departments is that living in the vicinity of the station is not necessary. You have people from all coming to volunteer shifts at these stations. A person's residence is not an issue when they give a certain amount of the time to the firehouse. So in theory communities with little or no volunteer base would still be able to provide a few volunteers. These communities would no longer be asked to provided manpower for an entire department but simply enough to help staff a piece of apparatus.

The bigger issue is the unions would fight for is the same minimum training standard for volunteers as career members, otherwise what go is having a body on the rig that cant do the job. I would rather be understaffed than have to deal with crew members who put my life and their's in danger, that means I have to work even harder to get the job done.

Until we have one standard for being a firefighter (like most states) it is unlikely you will see large combo depts.

This is something that I did not get the opportunity to discuss in detail with the career men on my visit down to PG County. Rigs down there can be all career, combination, or all volunteer... but they all rely on each other. If volunteers aren't on the same rig as the career personnel they most likely will be on the next rig to pull up. How does such a large system work so well without a minimum training standard for all firefighters?

JBJ

Most if not all of the large combo depts. fully staff career rigs and utilize volunteers on volly rigs. Do you think the depts. in westchester that have career, but are under staffing are going to wait till the volunteers show up? Many of the combo depts in Westchester started as volunteer, added "paid" drivers, then as the volunteers dwindled add a 2nd ff. Now in many cases they no longer have any volunteers but are still responding with 1 or 2 career ff's.

Also, if the volunteers are currently unwilling to do assigned shifts in the VFD, do you think they will want to do it when they are side by side with others who are getting paid to be there?

I failed to mention that the volunteers in this combination department would be doing assigned shifts. I do not expect the career staff to wait for the volunteers to show up. That being said I would expect strong opposition from these departments receiving volunteers to complete their staffing when a past all volunteer department is getting career members.

JBJ

I recently took a trip down to PG County in Maryland and had the opportunity to see first hand the "county combination fire department" that we all have heard so much about. Overall I think it is a great system and something I hope one day can be implemented up here. All of the concerns and issues have been thrown out there on this and many other forums, but one question I do not recall reading.

How would the career side of this combination fire department handle the possibility of working along side volunteers in a historically all career station and/or department? We always seem to focus on the volunteer departments improving their staffing by adding career firefighters. Isn't it possible in a large combination department to have an existing career department supplemented with volunteers also?

Example:

TODAY: The ABC Fire Department is a career fire department with no volunteer force. Current staffing is three engines and one ladder with two firefighters on each.

TOMORROW: The ABC Fire Department is now designated as Station ABC of a combination fire department and has the same amount of career staffing BUT now has volunteer force to help staff the three engines and one ladder with four on each.

I am just trying to look at all the angles here and hopefully will get some good feedback...

Thanks

JBJ

I was asking about the out of state restriction just the other day. I was reading through firehouse magazine and saw all of the hands-on training and lectures and felt it would be a good opportunity. Because I am a member of a fire district does that mean I cannot attend at the districts expense? How do I show that the course is not offered somewhere closer? What if I was unable to attend the closer course and this is the next available? I can play the “what if” game on this all day… The whole thing is very gray to me...

JBJ

Purchase has a siren that functions from 8am-8pm, it also goes off at noon monday through saturday.

Date: 4/29/09

Time: 21:05

Location: Westchester Avenue/Webb Avenue

Frequency: Fire 19, FG 2

Units Operating: 2411, 2412, Engine 238, Engine 240, Rescue 30, Utility 10, HEMS, HPD

Weather Conditions: Partly Cloudy 60 degrees

Description Of Incident: Purchase Fire Department was dispatched to a motor vehicle accident with extrication at the intersection of Westchester Avenue and Webb Avenue. Responding units were advised by 60 Control that HPD was on scene confirming one still trapped in the vehicle. Members observed a Chevy Cobalt resting on its driver side in the left lane of Westchester Avenue. The vehicle was stabilized with the Res-Q-Jack system and a partial roof removal was executed to remove the patient. Two patients were transported to Westchester Medical Center ALS by Harrison EMS.

Writer: JBJ1202 (O/S)

Full Story: Purchase Fire Department

I still have '97 buses at my station. They are still in circulation... but are finally on the way out. I will not miss those old buses one bit.

Date: 4/06/09

Time: 18:16

Location: 85 Tower Road (Behind Hanger M)

Frequency: Fire 19, FG 2

Units Operating: 2411, Engine 240, Rescue 30, Utility 10, Harrison EMS, WCPD, WC Airport Ops

Weather Conditions: Overcast 48 degrees

Description Of Incident: Purchase Fire Department was dispatched to a person trapped between two garbage trucks. Units arrived on scene to find one driver trapped inside a 70's Ford dump truck. The vehicle had collided with another dump truck on the taxiway. The collision had caused the drivers leg to be pinned by the steering column as well. Rescue 30 operated for 10 minutes to disentangle the patient and then assisted EMS with packaging. The driver was transported ALS to Westchester Medical Center. All units were cleared at 18:48 hours.

Writer: JBJ1202 (O/S)

two thumbs up!

Date: 3/27/09

Time: 22:11

Location: I-684 SB MM 1.0

Frequency: Fire 19, FG 2

Units Operating: 2411, Engine 240, Rescue 30, HEMS, NYSP, HPD

Weather Conditions: Overcast 46 degrees

Description Of Incident: Purchase Fire Department was dispatched to a motor vehicle accident with injuries on the Interstate 684 southbound just south of the Anderson Hill Road overpass. Engine 240 and Rescue 30 arrived first on scene to find a two car collision with one victim trapped. Members began to stabilize the vehicle while EMS gained access to the patient. Extrication was complete in under 10 minutes and one patient was transported ALS to the Westchester Medical Center.

Writer: JBJ1202 (O/S)

Full Story: Purchase Fire Department

My fault for not having the best topic title. The title was changed because I couldn't figure out what to call it. My question doesn't really ask about the departments that get dispatched from their local PD, but more how their local PD handles the 9-1-1 calls. Whether you are dispatched by the county or not when you dial 9-1-1 from home it goes to the PD most of the time.

Why is the FD needed at a neck and back pain MVA?

They are not going to be need every time they are dispatched, but like 585 said, we will assist with patient care/packaging, traffic control, and assess for any hazards.

I just think that the incident type should dictate what resources are assigned. I hope that I clarified by myself a little better.

JBJ