JBJ1202

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  1. Date: 04-22-08

    Time: 19:13

    Location: I-287 E/B MM 8.5

    Frequency: Fire 19, FG 2

    Units Operating: 2411, E-240, R-30, Harrison EMS, NYSP, HPD, 2162 ;)

    Description Of Incident: Purchase FD was dispatched to a motor vehicle accident with possible extrication. Original location was given as westbound I/A/O exit 9, Rescue 30 arrived on location advising responding units it was going to be eastbound MM 8.5. Units observed one vehicle rolled over onto its driver side with one patient trapped. The vehicle was stabilized and a partial roof removal was executed to gain access. Firefighters assisted EMS with immobiliztion and packaging of the patient. All units returned in service at 20:02 hours.

    Writer: JBJ1202 (OS)


  2. 2411 and 2412 are both chiefs of the department. 2413 is the captain and he was on the truck at the fire. Crews were standing by in quarters and a chief would have been available to respond if necessary. Mutual aid was also available if requested. Thanks to the tall guy from rye for the pictures... and hope to see y'all at the wet down for Engine 238 on March 30th...

    JBJ

    2414


  3. In years past we had a 5 HP siren on the top of the building that would blow 10 times every alarm. When the siren needed repair about 5 years ago they decided to go to a 3 HP siren and changed it to 4 times per alarm. Last year we decided to change it to daytime only (8am to 8pm). The siren also blows at noon monday to sunday.

    We also have a siren on Barnes Lane that hasnt been used in at least 30 years that is a 10 HP, similar to the North White Plains siren that we can hear from our fire house today.

    JBJ


  4. I look at that and i think to myself, what would my department do with the same incident.

    What resources are available in the county for such an incident which is completely possible considering the interstate traffic that passes through every day.

    Westchester County Airport ARFF apparatus

    Greenburgh Foam Tender

    Haz Mat Response Team

    Tankers

    Additonal Engines

    Just to name a few...


  5. It seems that the EMS in NYC is making good progress in specialist operations.

    It sems that as opposed to having a dedicated unit, that exists purely to respond to, and train for specialist and technical rescues and Hazmats, they are burdoning this role on already overworked ALS and BLS units on the road, so if an incident should occur that requires the attendance of a specially trained EMS team, that team may be dealing with a patient in the back of the bus and have to deal with and unload that patient before responding. Also these dedicated people miss out on the time to do training specific to their role, as they still have to operate as a normal EMS unit.

    Maybe in time this will evolve into a dedicated team, who knows??

    Jarrod

    I have to agree with you... But I do not think the call volume would justify a dedicated unit. The way EMS is right now, i dont think we could afford to lose any more buses. In time hopefully this would not be the case. With having dedicated units to the SOC, i wonder if FDNY EMS will ever go to station based ambulances... as opposed to CSL (Cross Street Location).


  6. We run a BLS Haz-Tac bus out of my station (27Henry). I have seen pictures of the new buses that will be assigned to haz-tac and rescue, they are on the new ford chassis.. F-450 maybe. The only major difference from the outside was a 2-3 foot roll up compartment next to the passenger doors. I assume that is where the extra length of the vehicle comes in. ill pass along any more info that comes my way.

    JBJ

    19Boy1


  7. Every time I see Ladder 21 i think of the old Ladder 53.

    http://www.fdnytrucks.com/files/html/other...er/Purchase.htm

    If the information is correct than ours was purchased just three years before the village.

    Love the old time seagraves still in service... Engine 239 isnt far behind made in '78 and refurbed in '91...

    PCFD Ladder 31 is a '81 TDA... Town of Mamaroneck recently replaced their '79 Seagrave engine similar to Engine 239...

    Just a few off the top of my head...

    JBJ


  8. I hear what your saying JBJ, I do agree that we could take steps to make things run more smoothly in Westchester. PG County has a great system for "them." Every type of call has a specific response and every piece of apparatus due on the call has a specific assignment from positions of every member on the apparatus, to truck placement, and instructions on what tasks are to be completed inside and outside the structure. This also varies depending on what type of structure is at risk. (For more info check out General Order 3-1) Since every company in PG has the same sop's, it is easier for departments to work with one another and takes away arguments about mutual aid, the closest apparatus shall be called. Why this works in PG is because houses are always staffed. Staffing is called in every morning and every night (not to mention whenever it changes throughout the day) so you know there is another crew waiting to get on the call. I believe something similar could work up here, and that would be having multiple departments responding on calls. This can help out departments who have trouble getting out during daytime hours. It would provide faster response times, more resources on scene right away and build better working relationships between departments. This way you don't waste precious time calling for mutual aid when they could be pulling up right behind your piece. The fire ground is very well organized down there. You arrive, get off the truck and do your job, no questions asked, no waiting around, knowing other companies are coming right behind you. I guess that is a benefit of all departments having one playbook.

    That is all i am trying to say... I am not saying what we are doing now isnt working, but I just see a more efficient way to do it.

    Thank You


  9. If anyone clicked on the link instead of just reading the title... they would see that the kentland portion is only where i found the material. The link that i posted was the SOP of the Prince George County Fire Department. So for all the people who dont have the attention span to read through it.. let me give you a quick summary....

    It covers standard responses based on incident type.. county wide.

    Accountability of staffed apparatus... Career and volunteer alike

    Requirement for training and equipment for all units throughout the county.

    Westchester has none of the above...

    As for Bnechis and chuckie cheese...

    i am not saying that the county should have control over the department, but atleast have a say in who is on the road and what manpower and equipment they are carrying. Understanding this issue is something bigger than Purchase this.. or Rye not having that, or ridiculous comments like charlie has graced us with... look at the facts and dont except things because "thats they way it has been, are, and will be"...

    Knowledge is Power

    2414


  10. Anybody that has been a member of the network for longer than 10 minutes should know that Westchester County has a bogus system (lack of) when it comes to the fire service. Volunteers dont have enough acitve members, career departments need more staffing, and everyone needs less apparatus and chiefs. These are facts that we all live with in Westchester. The county is simply there for us as a resource provider when they should have more decision making capabilities. Each department does what they want, when they want to... both career and volunteer. The crazy thing is there isnt a higher power to tell them otherwise. It goes as high up as the chief of the department and stops. Their is no county policy because nobody wants to be told what to do. Nobody that works/volunteers in this county has the right to talk about anyone, because their system is flawed... across the board.

    Every time an opportunity comes up for members to express their bias opinions on the matter, they all jump on it. Both career and volunteer firefighters have tremendous pride in what they do, and nobody wants to be told that what they did was not the right thing.

    This is Westchester:

    Team A- 3 Career firefighter on an engine... "out the door" but not enough members

    Team B- 6 Volunteer firefighters on an engine... proper staffing (if qualified, but what does qualified mean?) but has to assemble

    Team C- 6 Volunteer firefighters on an engine + 8 POV with firefighers to the scene.. same qualification comment + why all the manpower? ask for an engine, get an engine...

    Nobody has the correct system so just drop it

    Anyone interested in seeing how Westchester should be...

    CLICK BELOW

    Prince George's County Fire Department - Standard Response/Dispatch Procedures

    Prince George's County Fire Department - Staffing Availability/Tracking

    Dont be ignorant... read it before jumping up and down telling me that it cant happen, shouldnt happen, and wont happen.

    Joseph Brefere Jr

    2414