ACEast

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  1. I see one person who I believe to be a chief with green triple-trim on their gear. Is Yonkers switching over colors from orange to green or is that just something with the chief officers?

    That's been the YFD Chief Officer coat colors for a while now.


  2. Chief Dunn - Given the reported toxic nature surrounding the cause of this fire, were these roof operation photos taken well after the main body of fire was knocked down? (assuming that all members assigned to roof duty while battling the fire had "donned" their SCBA's)

    Yes


  3. It could be either a 76 or a 77 but it would be doubtful only because of the fact that you need those assignments to search the upper floors, and since in this instance it is one floor below the top floor you don't really need a total of 5 trucks to respond. I was always under the impression if it was less than 5 floors from the top you should have no problem with getting by with the all hands assignment with an extra engine and truck as a precaution.

    Again, I'm just a tenement Fireman with extremely limited hi-rise experience. I agree with your notion that a fire one floor below the top floor would most likely need a lot less trucks than for a fire which is numerous floors below the top floor. Help me to understand though...if FDNY pulls up to a hi-rise fire with fire showing from windows on the 20th floor of a 21 story building, are you saying that this would be only an all hands assignment? My assumption was that this would not only be an automatic 10-76 or 10-77 but that it would most likely be an automatic 2nd alarm as well?

    This is an area where most of us in the fire service have limited real world expertise. My knowledge of hi-rise firefighting is gleaned almost entirely from reading and seminars (including reading all that FDNY has to offer on the subject).

    In Yonkers, with our limited manpower, I believe this would go immediately to a second alarm, and probably very quickly to a third...any fire on the 20th floor has the potential to be wind driven / pressurized...potential for problems with elevators, water supply, reverse stack effect, etc., etc., and this is not to mention that we shouldn't assume that if fire is showing on the 20th floor from the street that is the location of the main body of the fire. Of course, comparing "alarms" from one department to another is apples to oranges, but I'm really surprised to hear an FDNY member make this all sound so simple and routine.