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  2. Posted · Edited by khas143

    There is a bottom line here that most people ignore. There is a difference between cops and firemen. It is two different breeds of men. We are not Brothers, cousins maybe.

    Well the fact of the matter is we differ on opinons of the scenario in question, however, your statement that we are not brothers is one of the reasons that there is any sort of "rift" between our professions. Given that statement that you made, why would PD give FD any sort of courtesy. Luckily, I for one do not belive the statement that you made and I DO believe that WE ARE ALL BROTHERS. If we have a disagreement we work it out and talk it out. If that is not your way of handling things, hopefully your not an officer and hopefully we never have to "work out" anything on a scene.

    P.S. - FDONTHEJOB - I guess you would take a comment posted earlier that stated "I HATE COPS" as not being cop bashing. Again... lets refocus on the incident at hand and I ask you why you would need to take out all of those lanes in order to provide a safe scene. Where does that end, every MVA why not close the highway? Hell... why not close down both lanes so somebody dosen't ruberneck and possibly jump the guiderail? (Again, throwing this out there for discussion so that we can focus on learning from the incident.)

  3. Posted · Edited by khas143

    The topic of this thread has gone astray so let me bring it back on course. Having done highway patrol work, I have been on the scene of many, many accidents so lets take a look at the one in question. The accident had been moved entirely onto the shoulder of the highway. The officer took out the right lane of the highway in order to let the ambulance crews work. I have never been on the scene of an accident like the one in question where taking out a second lane of traffic was needed. In my personal and professional opinion, there was more than adequate space to perform patient care with an entire lane of traffic to work with.

    Fire engines are great for blocking traffic and providing safety to responders. (We have all had too many brothers killed by vehicles), but wouldn't the prudent thing to do is for the engine to be positioned behind the police car. If that was the case, any vehicle that "rear-ended" the engine would not have posed a threat to any of the responders.

    As for the Police Officer invovled, it is apparent that he did not communicate his rationale for the engine to be moved. I have dealt with fire cheifs and officers and explained to them why you don't need to shut down all lanes of the highway in order to safely handle a car accident and I have never, ever had a problem. When traffic needs to be shut down by all means shut it down, if it dosen't, don't just do it to say that you can or like I have heard on scenes by FD members "F the motoring public". Anyway, I cannot see there being any sort of intelligent exchange between the officer and the fire offical in that short of an amount of time, it just couldn't have happened. Kudos to the Fire Dept. Capt. for not resisting arrest, it would not have helped and not been legal (At least here in New York).

    To sum it up, IMO, the FD did not need to shut down an additional lane, the PD Officer should have communicated better, and the whole incident could have been avoided with a little patience and communication on both sides.

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    I was a Border Patrol Agent for 3 years in New Mexico. Nobody can imagine the "outlaw west" way of life it is out there. This is by far one of the toughest jobs in Law Enforcement. My heart and sympathy go out to the family of the Agent. Being a Border Patrol Agent is a god-for-saken job that is hated by many and loved by few. God bless our brothers and sisters on the "Front line".

  10. Posted · Edited by khas143

    Now how does this comply with the overall idea of this forum of creating an area of progressive thinking? Granted if the facts that the paper stated are correct that its moronic what these two did. But from what i have heard its not all it seems.

    In response to your comment about creating an area of progessive thinking.... Here is one for you... Don't get involved in police actions... From WHAT I HAVE HEARD... Everything was fine until these two got involved and there were no issues (even from the owners of the bar) until these two got involved. It is without a doubt a good idea to make this information public in order to prevent future such occurences. If this prevents one person from fighting with a cop who is working and doing his duty than it is well worth discussing. As I said previously there is no excuse for this behavior. NONE...

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    Truly sick... It is ashame that all of the good people out there that all of us try to help are overshadowed by the few that are trying to get over on us. I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. As long as we do the best we can...... that is all that matters. Merry Christmas to all.

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    By THERESA JUVA

    THE JOURNAL NEWS

    (Original publication: December 22, 2007)

    Six people were arrested at a sobriety check point on the Bronx River Parkway and Butler Road last night, the Westchester County police said.

    James Wallace , 59, of Harstdale; Matthew Stafford, 31, of Mahopac; Dwayne Gentles, 24, of the Bronx; Eurico Lopez, 25, of New Rochelle; Ronald Singh, 24, of Binghamton; and Brett Conchado, 31, of Yonkers were all arrested and charged with misdemeanor driving while intoxicated, police said.

    A seventh man, Nuno Lopez, 26, of New Rochelle, was arrested and charged with DWI at police headquarters after he came to pick up a relative who had been arrested for the same offense, police said.

    The sobriety check point was conducted in collaboration with the Scarsdale police department. More random checks will be set up over the holiday weekend in anticipation of people drinking and driving, police said.

    Ahh... Job Security.

  16. Posted

    That's what the plate hunter is for (bug eyes). Thats 99% of what you get, insurance lapses! While we're on that subject, they need to make it a week or two before you get a lapse/suspension!

    Agreed, NYSDMV is the most screwed up organization I have ever seen. About a year ago, I switched insurance companies and DMV sent me a suspension notice because according to them, I never had insurance to begin with. It took several hours of yelling to get it corrected.

    As for the topic at hand, I would think it is illegal (especially in California) to pull somebody over for doing nothing wrong.

  17. Posted · Edited by khas143

    You weren't being straight foward at all or I wouldn't have written about it. You quote "As far as PD, Their job is full of bone heads with guns. It is right there in black and white. You may have meant to write it a different way but you didn't. Maybe you should just proofread before you hit ADD REPLY. I still don't think that we should be paid the same. I think that I should get more. HA HA.

    Of course EMS is underpaid but PD and FD have been around for over 100 years as public service employees. It took us that long to begin to be paid a "living" wage. Even 20 years ago PD and FD were in the lower middle class section of the income scale.

    Personally, I don't think that EMS should get paid the same as PD/FD. There are many jursidictions that require being an EMT in order to be a firefighter or some that even require PD Officers to be EMT's. Should you be paid more, absolutely but in my opinion, if you really want to make more money and still work as a medic, become a cop in an police based EMS system or a firefighter on an ALS response rig. If you don't want to do that, don't hold your breath for those pay raises. (Given as long as it took PD and FD, ohh that should be about another 75-80 years).

    My idea, $15-20/hr for EMT's and $30-35/hr for Paramedics.

  18. Posted

    There are fixed wing resources that do organ transports for long distances. Our PD has picked up the organs at the airport and transported them to the hospital to expedite their arrival too. They're mainly volunteer pilots who donate their time to ferry the organ(s) where they need to go - the nice thing about using airplanes is that they're able to fly IFR (instrument rules) in bad weather. Most helicopters won't (or can't) fly IFR.

    I always thought organ transport vehicles were defined in the VTL but when I re-read it after this post I see that it only defines "blood transport vehicles". I checked NJ but couldn't find anything related to them - I thought that was why they were operating out of (or at least registering their vehicles in) New Jersey. So, the short answer is that it appears (unless someone else can find the regulation) that they have no authority to operate as an emergency vehicle in New York.

    Frankly, I'd rather see these vehicles operating with lights and siren instead of the ASPCA "police". But that's been discussed in another thread already. :lol:

    Chris... while I agree with you that I would much rather have these vehicles as emergency vehicles than the ASPCA ... there are several questions that are raised.

    First and foremost.... Have the drivers of these vehicles undergone any sort of emergency vehicle operations training? This is not only a liability issue but also a public safety issue for other motorists.

    Second... What happens if one of these vehicles gets in an accident? They are almost automatically at fault since they are operating lights and sirens in direct violation of the VTL (In New York State).

    Finally... wouldn't it be easier to have the local PD transport any organs than have to worry about any of these potential factors? (Especially if by helicopter on overtime!!!!) :)

  19. Posted

    Perhaps the City needs to hire more cops to reduce the OT.

    That would be incorrect. The fact of the matter is that is is cheaper to pay cops overtime than to hire new ones. In order to achieve cost savings, the city of Yonkers would have to factor in all of the benefits given to a Police Officer before they even work one hour in Patrol. The cost of Health Insurance and retirement contributions alone would likely cost the City of Yonkers over $40,000. Given the fact that the article stated that 1/6th of police dollars are spent on overtime, it would probobly be cheaper not to hire more cops and pay more cops overtime.

  21. Posted

    Great Job by all involved! One question though, why did the ambulance stop with a patient in the back? Is this standard procedure? In the PD world, if we have a prisoner in the back of the vehicle we are not supposed to stop for anything. (In our SOP's, it specifically states car accidents and disabled vehicles)

    Like I said I am not monday morning quarterbacking anybody but in todays day and age is it a wise idea to possibly put a patient and their family in harms way? Just throwing it out there for discussion.

  22. Posted · Edited by khas143

    That wasnt directed at you Bro....it was at the article writers.

    While we can sit here and tell them to call their older wiser halfs (aka... u know)... the fact of the matter is that this guy was higlighting what was wrong in his system. Granted, wrong way, but lets face it, we would all be fired up if our family member were sitting there waiting for a bus..... Honsetly, its BullShit to have to wait for a service albeit, FD, PD, or EMS...... we would all be pissed off!!!!!!!

  24. Posted

    She can't be fired fast enough. FDNY EMS still has to prove itself to a lot of people and more than the other services doesn't need this publicity. As I am writting this, the story of the NYPD officer allegedly killing another officer popped up. Thank you to the NYPD for stepping up and ensuring FDNY stays out of the media for the next few days.

    Thank for for being an ignorant fool... I have NEVER gotten on this forum and talked about FD or EMS giving a black eye to the community.... I would just like to say that you are out of line and thanks for being a disgrace to the PUBLIC SAFETY community. Hope you never get "jammed up".

    Instead of talking about it...... you are more than happily shifting the publicity....

    Thanks again PARTYROCK for helping the community sooo much...