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  1. Does any one know what ANSI / ISEA rating our current bunker gear has, or what would it take to make it compliant? 90% of our gear today contains scotchlite trim, the same as the vests. Would adding 2 more stripe to the coat or arms make it compliant? I know in Putnam County, Brewster Fire Department is always on I-84 or I-684, on their newer gear they have added a 3” wide full length Triple trip stripe on the legs of their bunker gear for added visibility. Maybe if we make our gear to meet the ANSI / ISEA standards, we would not have to worry about donning the vests while only operating on the” right-of-way of a Federal-aid highway who are exposed either to traffic”, we would be protected all the time. We are supposed to be wearing out proper PPE on all calls aren’t we?

    Bunker gear does not and can't meet the ANSI 107 & ANSI 207 standard for visibility. There are very specific guide lines that are available for purchase through ISEA that spell out how a garment must be manufactured. You could make the whole coat out of scotchlight and it would not be compliant.


  2. My agency currently has high visibility vests, but they look real sloppy and we are looking to replace them. Can anyone recommend a specific brand?

    My recommendation is either of the Spiewak that I have attached here. The style #S912 meets the new public safety standard. I have also attached the 3rd party test. Whatever garments you decide to purchase, insist on 3rd party testing. I have seen too many non-compliant garments self certified that would never pass a 3rd party test.

    Either of these vests can be customized with POLICE, FIRE, or EMS on the front and the back.

    WWW.Spiewak.com

    S911.pdf

    S912_red.pdf

    S911_3rd_Party_Test_Report__Class_2.pdf


  3. Yes, I know that jack. Class 2 reflective vesta are good for general use, but i do believe class 3 has been required for interstates, and major highways for quite a while for construction workers and traffic control personnel. The change is that EVERYONE will be required to wear something, firemen, police and ems included. I should have been more specific. I'm thinking in "FOG MODE".

    There are no class 3 compliant vests. That being said there is a company that is selling a vest that they claim is class 3. To be class 3, there needs to be sleeves to show more of a human silhouette. The biggest problem with the ANSI 107 standard is that it is a self certifying standard. When looking for a compliant garment, request 3rd. party testing documentation. It is a very expensive test that the better safety apparel manufacturers will have done.

    Check out www.Spiewak.com. Their style S911 &S912 are excellent vests. I will attach images tomorrow.


  4. Just a start to answer some . This picture was taken from about 1/3 a mile away. the tow trucks were futher away then they appered and were taken out the shoulder, right, and middle lane [ 3 tow trucks]. Traffic was stopped completly to allow the engines to get to the scene from the wrong direction. We have worked on I95 for 50 years and its very tough to even get to the location. any body that covers it knows. We use flares when we have them, sometimes we run out [take from state when not looking]. Rescue 40 and 2391 I/C first on scene not visable in photo [ next to bus on shoulder ] Vests when we can afford them, all members in gear of some sort. traffic moving at about 5 miles an hour past scene. can it be done better you bet it can . Maybe the photo my son took will help make inprovements. I95 in my opinion is the toughest road to work on. As for the medical questions not my field maybe somebody can help out. Ive talked to quite a few that were on location including driver of rescue 40 my other son and the scene worked very well with over 61 transported and agencies that we never worked with before.

    Vests when we can afford them is not going to be an option as of November 24 2008. ANSI 2007 will be federal law with consequences . I would spend a little less ona fancy fire truck and give my employees proper PPE.

    See below for part of the rule. The full report goes in to greater detail.23 CFR Part 634

    Bunker gear with a couple of Relexite stripes does not constitute high visibility apparel.

    DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION

    Federal Highway Administration

    23 CFR Part 634

    [FHWA Docket No. FHWA–2005–23200]

    RIN 2125–AF11

    Worker Visibility

    AGENCY: Federal Highway

    Administration (FHWA), DOT.

    ACTION: Final rule.

    SUMMARY: Pursuant to Section 1402 of

    the Safe, Accountable, Flexible,

    Efficient Transportation Equity Act: A

    Legacy for Users (SAFETEA–LU), this

    final rule establishes a policy for the use

    of high-visibility safety apparel. The

    FHWA establishes a new Part in title 23,

    Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) that

    requires the use of high-visibility safety

    apparel and provides guidance on its

    application. This rulemaking applies

    only to workers who are working within

    the rights-of-way of Federal-aid

    highways. The FHWA is taking this

    action to decrease the likelihood of

    fatalities or injuries to workers on foot

    who are exposed either to traffic

    (vehicles using the highway for

    purposes of travel) or to construction

    vehicles or equipment while working

    within the rights-of-way of Federal-aid

    highways.

    DATES: Effective Date: This final rule is

    effective November 24, 2008. The

    incorporation by reference of the

    publication listed in this regulation is

    approved by the Director of the Office

    of the Federal Register as of November

    24, 2008.

    FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT


  5. Fire and EMS are two very different things, they require different people to do the jobs. Granted there are some who love to do both, but not all of us. What needs to happen is not lumping them together, but to keep them separate yet focused. Let the Firefighters be completely involved in fire and the the EMS workers be completely involved in medical situations. That way, everybody is great at what they do, and they can be focused on it. The only thing that needs to be done, is for Fire and EMS to work together well, taking their specific knowledge and combining their skills to effectively manage an emergency scene. I'm not advocating that nobody has any knowledge of the other, both sides should know the bare basics just so they can understand each other at scene. Frequent drilling is all you need between the two to create an effective team and expertly handle a situation. However, this is just my opinion.

    True, Fire & EMS are two very different things. But you the employee do not get to decide what you want to do. The people that pay your salaries are the one's that decide that. I am sure there will be no shortage of people willing to be employed by an agency that provides both. For those that do not want to do EMS, I suggest they look for another line of work.


  6. While I was not on the scene that morning, I am a medic in greenwich, and I would like to contribute my appreciation for the GFD guys once again doing a great job protecting all the responders. Having done numerous MVA's on 95, I've often wondered why it was necessary to bring the FD out to stick an engine in the way of oncoming traffic, and slow down the highway for everyone else. This is a serious reminder of why that's necessary for ALL accidents, big and small. It's sad to hear that people died this way (young people, too) but I'm glad it wasn't any of my colleagues or ME!

    As a side note, we are all required to wear reflective apparel (vests, jackets, turnout coming soon) when operating on ANY MVA scene... I'll be wearing mine religiously from now on!

    It is imperative that any reflective garment meets ANSI 107 standard for HI Visibility class 2 at a minimum. Make sure the ANSI garments are 3rd party certified. Turnout garments do not even meet the minimum ANSI standard. If you wear a turnout coat, put a compliant vest on top.


  7. Where did you hear that? There aren't any lots on Bruckner and Brush that are anywhere near the size of the Zerega lot that I can think of. If ny10570 is right the home depot doesn't match the time frame for the new station. There's not a lot of room on that side lot. I can't see any sense in building something just to have a building town town on top of you.

    Drive by when you get a chance. It is almost complete. It is directly acroos from the movie theatre.


  8. Thats not a fair or accurate comparison. None of us want to park in the street. Anyone on the job long enough has had their car hit or vandalized because they're parked on the street. We would all love to have secure parking but it just doesn't exist. In this specific case Hatzolah was offered facilities with local EMS but they refused them. In that case if you want to park on the street then you have to comply with parking regulations or pay the fines you get.

    So it is acceptable for John Q. Public 's car to be damaged, but if you are on the job you can disregard all parking regulations? I work in the city also but I can't just hop on to the sidewalk in front of my building & park.


  9. The other day I was in line in a deli in the Morris Park area of the Bronx and I heard a large truck with sirens coming up the street.  I caught a glimpse of a rescue style commercial truck, painted in NYPD color scheme but I positive it said "NYCHA Emergency Services".  I'm guessing that its Housing Authority but what is it and what is it used for? I thought that the NYPD protect the builings under the Housing Authority.  Please fill me in if you who anything. Thanks.

    It is not affiliated with the PD at all. I believe it is from their maintenance division.


  10. I am researching the purchase of new EMS gear. Do any departments use the Globe Lifeline set and if so what are your thoughts/opinions on the gear? Thanks in advance.

    Andy Mancusi

    Chief

    Hawthorne FD

    You might want to look at EMS gear by Spiewak. I know that CVAC uses it and is very happy.