pjm1733

public safety 5 is the chief of the fire department

To many people talking at once. No reason to call back in service, no reason to call enroute. If departments had digitals they would record exact times and free up alot of air time. Only talk if you have something to say. I listen to dispatch. It seems to me that often engines are calling enroute sirens blaring like dispatch mite actually care your going for a ride. Engine bla bla on scene 2 car mva 2 people hurt .Why tell dispatch. They know that already thats why you where dispatched there. Tell the people on scene or still enroute on your own frequency. Take care of the problem and go back into service. I am watching cartoons. Only call me if you need more dispatched. Example request for Con Ed car into pole.Pole number 42. Valid reason to contact dispatch. Dispatch attaches request on call record. Request NY Tow heavy recker to scene attach tow request to call record. All so simple and in practice at a department near you. If the digitals where in service the engine company would push in service. The computer would recognize it and reccomend that unit for dispatch.The dispatcher does not need to know anything. The cad system would make all reccomendations. If X department was out on a structure fire and another alarm comes in. The cad would reccommend Y the next nearest available company. Working with incident types would send the right unit. example if X was on a structure fire and a co alarm came in to them . The cad would reccommend the unit from Y with the gas meter to cover the call. Its simple i know it works. We all know this is just a discussion nothing will come of this. A new cad system that knows X department only has 2 engines in service (their ladder pushed out of service on digital) a reported stucture fire come in. The cad automatically because of the incident type "fire" reccomends those 2 engines, plus 1 engine m/a, plus 1 ladder m/a, and a rescue m/a automatically. 0r what ever the agreed upon response is from that battalion.

I just wanted to ask a small question what is the difference between

13:01

13:05

ans 4 minutes

next question

13:01:58

13:05:01

ans 3 minutes 3 seconds.

Point being dispatch confirms your responding and checks you and says 10-4 E-bla bla responding at 13:01 op 42

is it really 13:01 and due minutes really count.

a read out on the call record using digitals would be like this

dispatched 13:01;31

enroute 13:02:42

onscene 13:03:19

in service 13:30:58

in qtrs 13:31:40

not 1 word spoken over radio

I am curious what a call record looks like using the current system.

digital recording of times would be much more accurate, free up air time,a cad system that does more then just dispatch a "department" to a call also would improve service.

46.26 for Fire radio dispatch only. No EMS on channel 46.26 (shocker) unless fire engines being dispatched to medical assist.Face it ems is a horse of another color. The dispatch channel is only for Fire dispatch. No other transmission allowed. No announcements allowed. Weekly test of base units ok at pre- arranged time.

Every battalion gets its own frequecy on repeater with a side channel off repeater. (16-channels plus a couple for ems and mis) Every battalion can communicate with each other by simply going to that battalion's channel.

Buzz word inter-operability.

Every engine, ladder, squad in the county dispatched over 46.26 gets a digital radio with push buttons that records times to the second dispatched,enroute,onscene,in service, in quaters, out of service,simple. Each department has access to thier own information. Each department gets a base station. Each department gets 10 portables.Each department will buy all additional portable radios and must maintain a radio repair contract.

Heres how it works Battalion-14 Department-201 gets an mva w/injuries at 505 Ashford av. Two vehicles need extrication The dispatch enters the call MVAI, validates the address and computer reccomends E-165 normally that's enough.Due to the nature of call. MVAI two vehicles need extrication.The computer has an automatic upgrade feature recommending L-50 and U-24 , E-47 m/a The next nearest units with the tools to the scene. (EMS works alot the same way computer reccomends original agency then upgrades additional (in service) nearest to the scene)

The dispatch would dispatch E-165 L-50 U-24 E-47 announcing the departments names, nature of call, units, cross streets ,this would create an incident and place dispatched units on the call. (this would simultaneously dispatch the ems units and police agency) car 2011 would push enroute on his digital system and give a light verbal 2011 responding on Battalion's-14's frequncey. Each member of dispatched department would receive verbal dispatch over pager, text message over cell phone. Each department getting a rip and run (tecno name for a fax). If a dispatched unit does not hit enroute in a reasonable amount of a time a re- transmission of the alarm would take place. Now all fire ground transmission would go through either the IC or your departments base station. Talk all you want. leave the dispatch alone.

For the average Fire Fighter on back an engine you go to your battalion channel off repeater and are in contact with everybody you need .

For a mutual aid fast team from another battalion easy your battalion channel off repeater with one member monitoring working fire battalion channel.

for a mutual aide request battalion-14 department- 201 check on a report of an orange glow at battalion-17 department-255 well lets say good luck to you

well who pays for your pipe dream

george signs the check

hillary and chuck asks for it

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one thing is for sure all fires will go out eventually

train hard train often

emt bravo thanks for the forum =D>

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i am looking for the link that has the radio dispatches on it . what catagory is it under? thanks in advance ](*,)