milan fire dept probie

Nice shots....very tricky extercation....one not seen by most people in there lifetime in the fire service....I do have one question....I was wondering how much cribbing and it looks like rescue strut we're needed to deem the structure safe for extercation....I know you probably can't put an actual number on it but I'm curious how you did stabilize both vehicle, trailer, and silo? I can see some of it but for.training.purposes I wondering how much equipment off each rescue was used

Came through I-90 right after the twister hit springfield. Thought we were already passed there till the sign on 90 said Springfield 10 miles. Drove straight through the storm got a photo of funnel cloud as we drove under it. numerous police and fire units headed up 90. Saw what looked to be an entire company unknown who, but 4 engines and rescue and a tower and chief all in a single line headed toward springfield. Cant believe the power of the storm.

Milan Fire Rescue has 3 E-One Engines

1st is the Oldest 48-11 1250 tank/1250 Pump

Next is 48-12 1250 pump/1250 Tank

The Newest Engine 48-13 1250 pump/1250 Tank

Just my opinion but i never agreed that a chief should take the " chief car" to their private job. the vehicle does absolutely nothing for the memebers operating at a scene when the chief is at work. i feel that if going to work the vehicle should be left in the district to be used as a "command vehicle" as they call it and not a personnel car. id like to hear what other people think about it i myself never saw the original thread.

In my dept we role an engine, rescue, ambulance, and 1 or 2 utilities....depending on the situation or location the engine and rescue will be returned and the utilities used for traffic control or the rescue with manpower will assist with traffic and/or ems duties.

Looking for Pictures of your Sparten cab. Trying to get some cool ideas for our new rig we are spec out. Name the manuf. and the location what dept you belong to. Please get some inside shots

In Milan we run a 1996 Sparten, its a 8 man cab with a command desk in the center of the 2 forward facing back seats, i will get more pictures if you would like. just e-mail me at tcplowing@aol.com and let me know if you want more information

How much milk was in the tank ?

i believe it was around 4700 gallons but not 100% sure

How was the stabilization done during extrication? Was a heavy wrecker used, or low pressure air bags or a combination of both? Cant really tell from the ops pictures. Either way, looks like a tough pin.

the towing company was great that morning. the towing company wrecker assisted in stabilization of the truck and tank. and was used in a combined effort worker with the extrication team to move the truck as the team performed spreading of the remainder of the cab . a great combined effort between rescue workers and the towing company.

Stabilization of the cab was being stabilized by a resce strut system and chain to keep the remainder of the cab from shifting and the tank was being stabilized by air bags, a seperate rescue strut setup and wooden block cribbing. a great job by both pine plains,milan and wrecker crew in stabilizing that truck.

Photos of a rollover tractor trailer accident early this morning in pine plains. DCSO reported with entrapment upon arrival and requested fire and ems to scene. pine plains command requested milan fire dept to the scene with it's rescue for its air bags. An extended and complex extrication followed to free the trapped driver. A helicopter was requested and landed at the pine plains high school. the driver was extricated after an extended time and taken to the awaiting chopper. An excellent job done by all at the scene. a true team effort between multiple agencies at the scene that resulted in a successful rescue photo credit to Ethan McGhee pine plains fd.

Rest in peace brother, my condolences to the family and friends, and the Roosevelt fire dept.

in upper dutchess county ny where my dept is located we have more brush fires then anything other fire. usually on a brush fire call its all of our equipment first with no automatic mutual aid . if an officer or engine sees a large smoke column or anything that might give the impression of a large fire an additional brush unit is either requested or put on standby. that decision is made by the officer or engine requesting it. as far as a dress code. we have a 2 piece including pants and shirt wildland suits. we recently got a wildland grand and we are purchasing new wildland boots and gloves. also we have hard hats that we are required to wear. and all the dress equipment is carried by the individual firefighter.

At a recent search and rescue drill i found that if you take a dog leash in with you and your partner it works well with the search. you clip one end of the leash to your partners pack and put your hand through the loop of the leach at the other end. this gives you a 5-6 foot distance between both of you but also gives you the safety that is you don't feel tension on the leash your holding, you know something has happened with your partner.

Sending 5 up to take fast .... when do you find out if you are accepted into the class you chose ?

i believe it all depends on the town and situation,. if you have a relatively small town and the fire houser is in the center of the district, then yeah respond to the fire house but with volunteer towns covering large areas and roads that take time to travel over, i thinks its nessesary to respond to the scene in your pov. keeping the gear at the firehouse for my dept would never work out and not to mention there are hardly any jobs around here. almost all our memebers work outside of town, therefore it makes it a lot faster and eaiser for them to respond from work directly to the scene. so again it all depends on your town and if the manpower is around and close enough to justify going to the fire house first

I know in my dept if we call in a helicopter 99% of the time they are being flown to westchester. it's faster to go to saints by ground then to call for a bird but if its serious injuries then the patient is flown to westchester or albany but we dont fly them to an in county hospital

Thermal Imaging Cameras......

I have to agree thermal imaging cameras , the fit 5 for sure within these past few years and the advancement in gear are all great modern things

that really hampers upstate companies ..stat flight was our primary helicopter if needed .. just yesterday we used a LifeNet chopper for a serious injured boy and without it the child would have turned out a lot worse. with the serious injured patients that need a high level trama center a ground transpot to westchester from my town is out of the question we need these chopers and without them is going to be hard on the patients .. i see the business reason behind it but im not in favor of it

We have run with holmatro , TNT, and Lukas and in all the tnt portable tools work extremely well , holmatro is also very good however the ones we had didnt have the power the tnt and lukas had. out dept is also looking to upgrade and we did a demo with hurst and the new high pressure tools and they were amazing the whole set up is perfect for low manpower situations and the toold are lighter then the ones we have now so i advise you to look into hurst and ask for a demo from them

All things considered - looks like a good save no?

with the amount of fire load coming from the garage it was an excellent save by all that were there great job guys !!!

On Channel 154.445, I heard all avaiable Divers from Station 39 and 34 report to Station 32 to continue diving from previous call. I was woundering where is this? How do they run thier calls? What were the divers needed for? Thanks for the help.

Thomas

http://www.1rbn.com/webpages/news/displayn...57-162666c674c5

gives all the details for the call

Milan had something burning with Pine Plains as M/A...

milan had a brush fire approximately 1 to 2 acres pine plains and elizaville m/a with utilities

A question for the MFD Probie or anyone else from Milan. Same fire, same response, same manning, same supply, but no fit5. What would the tactics of been? I think you would of immeadiately streched the first line and operated as TSull and others described. We cant get caught up on the latest and greatest gimics that come along and lose site of basic Firefighting. This was a standard structural fire, that could of been handled with stardard tactics. Well vented, fire showing, no great shakes for an aggressive and well trained engine company. Save the toy for the tough ones, and get in there already.

if we had no fit-5 it would have been that a lie would have went through the back door and tried to stop the fire from spreading into the kitchen area b/c in these pic you cant see that the fire has pread through the entire 1st flooor these pics were of the fire before the first engine was on the scene .when you go through the D side where we entered the whole kitchen area was flame burned but there was no fire there when we stretched the line in .. the only fire was still in the back 3 rooms so the tactic would have been if we didnt have the fit-5 to try and stop the fire in the kitchen area and make an attack to the back bedrooms but the fire would have had much control of the 1st floor but im pretty sure with the team we had and the dedicated members at the scene we could have made the stop without the fit-5 but al i know is it made it easier for us to do it and a little bit safer and thats why i am in favor of this tool but even without it we could have made a stop but with a little more structural damage then now

I was thinking along the same lines as Paul. A efficiently stretched and properly placed initial hoseline would have solved many problems as well. Life in the room of origin is obviously untenable...if the floor above was a concerned rapid search via VES is also a viable option. I just want to note that I am not judging any decision...it was made and those involved feel it was positive, nor am I making any comments about the fit-5.

I understand those feelings and its just my opinion about the way it supressed the fire or at leased slowed it down. i feel it saved the building b/c of where the house was located it was in a pretty remote part of our district for our engines so it took several minutes for additional interior firefighters and engines to arrive and it did help that it was only a one room fire at that time and i give all the credit to the guys in my dept and the great mutual aid firefighters we had it was an amazing stop and a great effort i just think that the amount of time that went by any other type of fire would have spread much farther but its one of those opinion fire and there are a lot of variables to consider but i just feel that the fit-5 gave us the time we needed to get in and get the job done

the fit-5 is a great tool, it allowed us to do our job and save the house. the fit 5 prevented the fire from spreading into the main structure and taking the whole building to the basement. it was a great stop b the fit 5 and interior crews....job well done by everyone.

Nice job guys, looks like a lot of fire in pics...

So how did the FIT-5 preform???

What was reason for deployment and did it help with making the fire fight easier??

Just curious, trying to get some info on it's true meaning of need... Afterall it does cost around 1500 dollars per canister, right???

actualy the device costs about $1200 each but on this particular fire there were 2 cars in the yard and a purse still on the front seat of one of the cars so the thought was that there is still people inside so the desision was made by a firefighter jeff galm to throw the device to try and slow the spread of the fire to give us time to do our search. it made a great difference it held the fire to that room for several more minutes until we could establish an aggresive interior attack it made a difference for that house standing and that house being burned down to the ground in my mind and looking at the way the fire was held that if we did not deploy the device we would have lost the whole house