KRF178

SCBA without the regulator attached equals NO SCBA.

Well put!

I'll take a shot here......At size-up, try to determine what the seat of the fire is, it's a strong possibility that the origin being in a garage it may be a vehicle which brings up a few different things, tire explosions, fuel leaks/ignition. Consider Haz-mat, ventilation, and extension. The sign of the smoke coming out of the front door of the house tells me, as already stated that the fire may not be far behind.

1st thing, ventilation. Depending on construction, preferbly vertical. Not to say that I wouldn't use the large door(s) to my advantage.

I would conduct a normal primary search, but have the search crew keep eyes open for any further sign of extension to the living structure.

My 1st line would be in the front door of the residence to 1. protect the "exposure" (for lack of a better term, being that since the garage is attached it is one structure) 2. start the fire attack through the garage access from the house.

My 2nd line would be a 2 1/2" at the garage door ready to advance when the interior line has made considerable progress. The 2 1/2" would go to work after positive fire attack has been reported by the interior crews. I wouldn't send either crew in too deep for hazards that are common to most garages.....suspended objects, falling shelves etc. Until conditions were better and visibility improved. The interior line can make a good start and the 2 1/2" outside has the pressure and penetration to finish the job.

After the fire has been darkened down, in goes the TIC with a charged line and some tools, checking all adjacent walls for any sign of heat.

As Boothe161 mentioned Cortlandt Hook & Ladder also has an antique hand drawn cart,

maybe KRF178 can add more information?

MoFire390 & ajsbear the Fire Engine Antique at the Car Show belongs to one of our Peekskill FD members Al Fisher.

He's a member of the Peekskill Road Knights. I believe it is NOT an old Peekskill antique,

he just put "Peekskill FD" on it for Parades and other stuff. I could be wrong?

As MoFire24 said our old 1955 Mack from Centennial Hose is privately owned.

I have also been told it's just rotting away.

Centennial Hose 1974 Mack CF600 is now in service in Lake Carey, PA

This was Lime Yellow in the late 70's early 80's and refurbished to Red/White in 1985.

Columbian Engine GMC Muster Truck is company owned,

it was formally Buchanan FD

The Fire Patrol GMC Rescue truck was sold and now privatly owned.

I've seen some footage on youtube of the apparatus and engine running, etc.

I HOPE THAT HELPS!

Cortlandt Hook & Ladder's Hand drawn was just recently donated to the newly renovated Lincoln Depot on Water St. by Dains Lumber. It will be part of the display of in that building when completed. The hand drawn was in the apparatus bay until a few years ago when the '89 Pierce was still in service. It was taken and put in the storage shed in the parking lot when we had to renovate the bay for the delivery of our E-One in 2002. It sat in the shed since then, and since the company sold the building to the City of Peekskill, we had no place to put it and decided it would be best to donate it where it could be put to good use. The hand drawn was never actually an in service piece of the Peekskill FD, it was actually donated to CH&L by St. Josephs on South St. where I assume it may have been used at some point.

Talking about the responses and resources, it goes back to the saying and I think ALS will back me up on this-The PD doesn't disregard a barking dog or noise complaint because a bank robbery or shooting might happen. So why should we do the same? I mean we are here to provide the most superior service possible. The Peekskill system for the most part was designed and ensures that there will be trained personnel at the patient's side ASAP (unless call volume is extemely high), whether it be a VAC EMT, CRP Medic, PFD Medic, or PFD FF/EMT.

I always love getting that call "Yeah it's fire control, our fire alarms are going off again" LOL

That is pretty close to the old L-45 but I don't think that NRFD's L-15 has/had an LTI ladder (just by looking at the pictures, correct me if I'm wrong). L-45 in fact did have a 105' LTI rear mount. I actually still have the specs for it in my attic from when my father was chief. It was also rumor that it was suppsed to be in the last Terminator movie, "Rise of the Machines" and blown up I believe. But, went to see the movie and it wasn't in it.

I don't think that is it because it has a few things that ours didn't. No aluminum wheels (which could've been easily put on), and that compartment all the way in the rear on the side, I seem to remember it didn't have a door. The pierce was replaced due to turntable and tourqebox problems, I believe they were cracked or rotting out. The estimate to repair it I believe was almost $200,000.

By actual physical age or by mentality?

You could actually measure by both where we're from ALS! LOL

As will Columbian Engine/Peekskill FD

RocklandFires,

Thanks for sharing that information about it making CNN national news.

I've held back on making comments about this until now.

Many of you poked fun at this incident, even a refrence to people "clapping" when it collapsed?

I have just one question, was that before or after it was reported that people may be trapped under it

in the inital dispatch of the old firehouse collapse? Anyway....

You can make jokes about it and even the old favorite "tax payer dollars" were

being wasted but to me that Firehouse meant something a lot deeper than just

a building. It was a peice of history, 118 years old, a historial landmark to be exact!

Lets never forget that on August 1, 1918 two members of Centennial Hose were killed

in the line of duty by a Building Collapse at the Fleischmann fire.

FF John Torpy and FF Walter Cole never returned to the Firehouse that day.

I am sure that Firehouse meant something to them and the family members of both

Firefighters. We lost seven Firefighters that day in Peekskill.

So yes, that Firehouse meant something to me as a member and I am sure it does

to ALL members of Centennial Hose past and present.

VERY SAD LOSS!

Respectfully,

Robert W. Casasanta

Past President

Centennial Hose Co. # 4

Let me start off by saying that I am an associate member of Centennial Hose Co. No. 4, so I'm not to be thought as "throwing stones."

As far as I know, the "clapping" was done after it was confirmed that there were no injuries/entrapment. I know this because I know of two people who were down there when it came down and actually probably saved the foreman's life by telling him to run at the first sign of trouble and checking to make sure he was ok after the collapse. I dont believe that the intentions by any were to poke fun at the incident itself, but rather the inevitable that many said was going to happen. After being reassured that it wouldn't.

Myself personally, I would like to know what the vested interest is in this building was all of a sudden in the past two years or so after sitting vacant, forgotten for decades. From what I have been told by a number of senior members, that 30 years ago when the company moved to Washington st. that the City of Peekskill offered the building to the company for $1.00 and the membership said "no thanks." Is it a great historic loss, yes. Would it have been great to preserve it and make it a museum, yes. I know a person who wanted to be a tour guide when he retired from his current job. However I just think it was too little too late with this one, it should've been thought about 10, 15, 20 years ago....and not by the historic preservation committee, by company members.

I also don't think that anyone mentioned the August 1st, 1918 LODD's of the 2 members of Centennials in any disrepectful manner. I know I have the utmost respect and honor for the Fleischmanns 7.

Kevin R. Ferris

1st Lieutenant

City of Peekskill FD

Word has it there was cheering and clapping as it went down...LOL!

That California radio traffic is very true. I was told back in the 80's on 46.26 I believe that at Peekskill FD station 1 on main st. they used to pick up Orange County, CA. The old timers told me that everything including portables came in as clear as day.

In my dept. we keep water on all if not most of the apparatus. Some in coolers with ice some not...lack of ice machines around the houses. On the apparatus I'm responsible for the cooler is drained and new ice is replaced every day or other day depending on the heat. Another thing I would recommend is one of those "cool mist" fans that blow air and cool water on you, it works wonders. For those of us in the northern westchester area who have the luxury of utilizing Cortlandt VAC's disaster rehab unit, it's the best. The members of CVAC respond out and do an excellent job with ice cold water, mist fans, and cold towels. They have been at a few of our warm weather incidents and have always gone above and beyond to make sure that FF's properly rehab and don't overheat. It's also always great to have your local VAC there ready with BP cuffs and O2 just in case, lets face we're all not superman....everyone needs a break!

It says that UH&L took delivery of the vehicle, the individual companies buy the chief/command vehicles?

Sounds like sour grapes to me, the pay may not be the best...the job is what you make of it really. It's a government/civil service job, therefore in many opinions it can be all that bad...it's always worth the shot. Sure it has it's BS, but all jobs have that.

LOSAP is great...when you turn 62. I have definetly seen the system abused and it's not right. IMHO you should have to make a certain amount of calls, training and "active" events before being eligible for the other categories. Like i said it's great however I would have to wait some time to see any type of reward....and I think with the cost fuel and all that people want to see any rewards we may get now. All the rewards and tax breaks are awesome but in reality one shouldn't volunteer just for that reason and that reason only. Like myself who has always said I don't do it for those reasons (don't get me wrong they are nice to have) I volunteer because this is something I love to do. The unfortunate part is that we all still have people on our "active" rosters for that reason only and probably have made a call or training session in 10+ years. Just my $.02

Yeah my fault on that I screwed up thinking they were bowstring and now that you mention it Tanker I remembered. I meant lightweight metal trusses (the overnights screw with your mind). I actually didn't even think about the color and density of the smoke, that would make sense that it would be wood trusses. Who knows?

If I had to guess I would say with the size the building appears to be, that it would have the metal bowstring type trusses. It just goes to show, always ladder more than 1 side of the bldg.