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I did take that into consideration, but there might be more to it then what we are aware of. The audio portion is just part of it. I'd much rather wait until we know all of the facts before casting judgment.

Date:4/25/10
Time: 00:27
Location: 495 Violet Av 'Four Seasons Deli'
Frequency: 453.900, 453.925, 453.800, 453.050 PD Trunk
Units Operating: Fairview, City of Poughkeepsie, Roosevelt, Arlington, DC Fire Investigation; Transcare
Weather Conditions: 55 Light Rain
Description Of Incident: Fire in a 2 story taxpayer
Writer: citystation1848, JETPHOTO
00:27 Fairview dispatched to a structure fire
00:30 Fairview on the scene with smoke showing
00:35 Command req 2nd alarm
00:38 2nd alarm dispatched
00:40 Command req DC Fire Investigation to the scene
00:49 Command reports 3 1 3/4 lines in use, heavy fire. Mutual Aid Ambulance to cover a Intox @ Marist
00:52 Command reports 80 x 100 2 story wood frame. Request Roosevelt rescue, Manpower, Central Hudson and town Fire Inspector to the scene
00:55 Arlington relocate 1 ambulance to Fairview for stand by. Roosevelt 63-51 responding.
01:04 Command reports main body of fire knocked down
01:15 FID 1 (Fire Investigation truck) responding
01:20 FID 1 on the scene
02:30 Command releasing mutual aid
02:47 Central Hudson on the scene

Date:4/25/10
Time: 00:27
Location: 495 Violet Av 'Four Seasons Deli'
Frequency: 453.900, 453.925, 453.800, 453.050 PD Trunk
Units Operating: Fairview, City of Poughkeepsie, Roosevelt, Arlington, DC Fire Investigation; Transcare
Weather Conditions: 55 Light Rain
Description Of Incident: Fire in a 2 story taxpayer
Writer: citystation1848, JETPHOTO
00:27 Fairview dispatched to a structure fire
00:30 Fairview on the scene with smoke showing
00:35 Command req 2nd alarm
00:38 2nd alarm dispatched
00:40 Command req DC Fire Investigation to the scene
00:49 Command reports 3 1 3/4 lines in use, heavy fire. Mutual Aid Ambulance to cover a Intox @ Marist
00:52 Command reports 80 x 100 2 story wood frame. Request Roosevelt rescue, Manpower, Central Hudson and town Fire Inspector to the scene
00:55 Arlington relocate 1 ambulance to Fairview for stand by. Roosevelt 63-51 responding.
01:04 Command reports main body of fire knocked down
01:15 FID 1 (Fire Investigation truck) responding
01:20 FID 1 on the scene
02:30 Command releasing mutual aid
02:47 Central Hudson on the scene

Date: 3/22/10
Time: 1507 Hrs.
Location: Overlook Road And Maple View
Frequency: 453.900 (Dispatch); 453.925 (Response); 453.800 (Command)
Units Operating: LaGrange; Arlington; Hudson Valley Paramedics; Mobile Life
Weather Conditions: 57 And Wet
Description Of Incident: 3 Car MVA With 5 Patients, 1 Lying In The Roadway
Reporters: DC911 And Me
Writer: TAPSJ
1507 Hrs. - LaGrange Dispatched Priority 3 For A 3 Car MVA
1509 Hrs. - DC 911 Updating Person Possiablly Lying In The Road. Also Station 2 Responding
1511 Hrs. - New Hamburg Chief On Scene Advising 3 Injuries
1512 Hrs. - LaGrange Requesting Arlington With An Ambulance And Medic To The Scene
1513 Hrs. - Arlington Dispatched
1515 Hrs. - LaGrange Command Requesting A BLS Ambulance
1516 Hrs. - Hudson Valley Paramedics Dispatched
1517 Hrs. - LaGrange Command Requesting DC 911 To Notify Arlington School District That The Road Is Closed
1520 Hrs. - Hudson Valley Paramedics Returned Per DC 911
1521 Hrs. - DC 911 Dispatched Mobile Life Out Of The City Of Poughkeepsie Because They Will Be Closer
1523 Hrs. - LaGrange Command Asking DC 911 To Notify Saint Francis That 5 Patients Are Comming In
1525 Hrs. - DC 911 Advising LaGrange Command That Saint's Notified And Are Awaiting Your Arrival
1529 Hrs. - LaGrange Command Advising DC 911 To Cancel Mobile; DC 911 Advising Mobile Life Will Be Relocated To LaGrange Station 2
1533 Hrs. - Arlington 32-71 BLS To Saint Francis With 2 Patients; 32-89 Back In Service
1537 Hrs. - LaGrange 47-72 And -89 ALS To Saint Francis
1550 Hrs. - DC 911 Asking A Status Of The Road Closure For The School District. LaGrange Command Advising 10 Min. And It Should Be Opened
1553 Hrs. - LaGrange Command Advising DC 911 All LaGrange Equipment Is Back In Service And Road Is Reopened
1633 Hrs. - DC 911 Advising Mobiloe Life That They Are Back in Service LaGrange Has An Ambulance And Medic Back In Service

I'm not quite clear how far your objections go. Are you suggesting that there should be some kind of Chinese wall between career and volunteer funding? Take the Valhalla FTC, for instance. Who pays for that? Are some of the taxes being used to provide the facilities and train volunteers there being paid by people who have already paid for a career department to protect them? Is that fair? How far should we go in stopping the redistribution of the proceeds of taxation beyond the community where the taxpayer lives? Perhaps I'm reading you wrong, Chief, but I detect a certain parochialism in your thinking here.
Having said that, on the original question... I'm a vollie, and I don't need or want a dime from anybody for what I do; I don't *personally* support this bill. The occasional 'thank you' from the people we serve is enough for me - as the Runrig song says, "we don't play for fame, we don't play for cash". But I speak only for myself there.

This is bad policy. It is wrong headed and unfair on so many levels, and it won't make any significant improvement in services delivered.

Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) and Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) have jointly sponsored a bill in the US senate that would protect tax benefits for volunteer fire fighters and EMS personnel.
Here is the link to the story:
http://www.stamfordp...nders7820.shtml

Nothing wrong with having a little pride whether your career or volunteer.

Come on give me, and the paramedics, a break. What they did may not be protocol but in my opinion it didnt harm anybody and it kept the kid calm in a stressful situation. Im not saying they should do it again but to pursue these guys like they are criminals is just wrong.

I agree with the other guys. I dont see a problem with what the child did. Granted, this isn't something that happens every day but come on, leave the child and the department alone. The medic was tied up trying to save the childs grandmother and didnt have time to talk so he instructed the kid what to do and how to do it. Maybe this will lead the kid to a possible career in EMS. They are just trying to make more trouble.

Beacon had Pleasant Valley on standby during the major incidents of multiple collapses over this past storm. I am unsure if it was related at all to lack of water from the mains due to an interruption, or more for just the guaranteed presence of a finite amount of water, hopefully someone from the Southern end can clarify.
I personally did not know about New Hamburg having a FAST, but it comes down to who deems who to have an official recognized FASTeam (at least specific to Dutchess Co.)? I have heard Arlington having been dispatched with their FAST to the City of Pok on several occasions, although it is usually a 2nd due FAST after Fairview, unless there are multiple 2nd+ Alarm assignments going on in the City.
If an IC requests a FASTeam (in Dutchess), DC911 will dispatch what, in their CAD, is considered a FAST, unless a specifically requested department is requested with their "FASTeam".
So again, it comes down to, if an IC requests a "FAST", and they know that the ones they plan on calling wouldn't be the one dispatched by 911, they specifically request whoever they want. Going back to my original question, what is it they lack that they are not in the CAD as an 'official' FASTeam?
Besides, it would be funny to think/assume that a career/combination department wouldn't have a FAST (or enough people trained to supply an adequately staffed/trained one).
Also, keep in mind that a FASTeam is not required (at least by name) by any regulation or standard out there. OSHA 1910.134 (Respiratory Protection Standard) requires such that:
Source: http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_id=12716&p_table=standards
So therefore, by name, a 'FASTeam', or 'RIT', or whatever name you refer to it by, is not required (again, being referred to as anything in particular), so long as AT LEAST 2 members are staffed outside an IDLH (atmosphere that is Immediately Dangerous to Life or Health) for any rescue effort. This team can be from the same department as the interior team, or from 2 counties away (yes, I obviously know how ridiculous that seems [and is], it is just an example), but so long as they are trained, and equipped, and prepared properly, that is what matters (as far as legalities go).
The other way to look at it (referring to a previous thread '4 in 4 or 20 in 10?' [at least the concept]), would you rather have 2 available in 5 minutes, or wait the 20+ minutes for a dedicated team????
Just some food for though....

Can someone explain to me why Hughsonville would be the second due fast team to Highland? What about City Of Pok, Fairview, Arlington, New Hamburgh or even Kingston could be there in 10 minutes with a quick trip down the thruway. I understand Marlboro is the first due and if they are not available Hughsonville is next? That is absolutey ridiculous, I understand the whole concept of not taking away all resources from the airway but isnt the Fast Team a very important team that is needed at the scene. I am sure that if you took one of the other teams that is much closer it would not have hurt the areas. I could be wrong about this but it just seems to me that having a department come from 20 minutes away is a little bit much. Just my opinion and I could be way off base but maybe someone can explain. And before anyone gets all pissed I am not bad mouthing Hughsonville by anymeans. They were called and they responded and they are just doing what they were asked to do.