DaveTFD

I know Tarrytown has a Job, Ossining Relocated a Ladder to Sleepy Hollow. ?

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the call came out for 263 benedict avenue for a kitchen fire. when 2461 got on scene the fire was moving up the walls and he requested for a ladder to relocate to main street hq to stand by. the fire was k/d a short time after

Date: 5/12/06

Time: 1426

Location: C-town shopping strip x-street wildey 94 south broadway

Frequency: Tarrytown Highway/46.26

Units Operating: Tarrytown PD, 2461,2462,2463,2469,E-76,E-79,L-37,TVAC 81B1/81B2, SHAC, IFD rescue

Description Of Incident: underground co leak w/explosion

Writer: DaveTFD

1426: county fire control requests tarrytown fd to respond to 94 south broadway to assist con edison with a CO leak. alarm 1-4-5 for E-76 and L-37.

1430: 2461 and 2463 10-19

1431: 2462 E-76 and L-37 10-19. FD requested to help evacuate businesses and homes in the area. high CO readings in the area reported to be caused by leak under ground. Con Ed on scene

1540: right before Con Ed workers were to enter the manhole, there was an explosion. 3 workers injured. 2461 advised tarrytown PD to page out for tarrytown ambulance.

1545: SHAC on scene

1548: TVAC on scene with GPD paramedics. 3 workers with minor burns to arms and face. 1 reported with loss of hearing. 1 transported to WCMC, 2 transported to phelps ER

1550: 2461 requests alarm 1-2 for hope hose company E-79 to respond to scene

1720: 2461 requests irvington rescue to respond to scene to fill SCBA bottles

1906: L-37 released by 2461

1930: E-76 released by 2461. E-79 to remain on scene to stand-by with con ed

still ongoing

it is up to the president/vice president/ company officers to inform a new member of the history of the company. this is done usually the night the personal is elected to membership by the company in a semi formal way.

for the record, tarrytown has a blue peice of aparatus and its not the truck that gets the job done, its the men that ride it. the color of your truck does not affect the pride you have for it or your company

are we talking about company money or department money? department money comes from the taxpayers, company money comes from dues/outside donations. parade beer money is paid for by the company or companies that are going to be in the parade in my department

it looks like they left out some things on the model

whats the situation with the hut TL-78 is in right now? is there a limit to how long hitachi is going to let the fire department use that land? is there heat in that building yet for the winter?

if i knew anything about building a firehouse i would have started building 3 years ago. the fact of the matter is that you are right. with all the construction the village is planning, it could be some time before we are in a building.

in a little more than a year, the lease for consolidateds meeting trailor will be up and it will come down the the village making the decision to lease another trailor or finally build. last night i saw the finalized plans for the firehouse. right now we are waiting on the administrator and the chief to sign them and building could start as soon as june hopefully.

i am fed up with the whole situation right now

wee ohhh  some one aggrees  with me!!!! they arent looking into the future and neither is the department.

Second bay is important to the department and they should be looking for one no demanding ==one instead they are all satified because they think only of themselves.  sorry dave  but i think it true.

when tarrytown  f. d. starts to think as a department instead of individual companies  thats  when there will be progress.

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its not really that i dissagree with you and fd7807 about looking toward the future as far as the buildings. but lets be honest about it here, do you think the village and the tax payers are going to pay and understand why they are paying for a 2 bay fire house right now for 1 piece of aparatus? in my opinion, the village board meetings will be 6 hours long with people yelling about wasting taxpayer money (not that i think its a waste of money)

the chief of the department has a key role in keeping the 6 companies together as 1 department. last year we did not have that. this year i believe that chief scogna will be the 1 to bring everyone back together.

not really sure what is going on with E-78's old building. i heard something about possibly housing utility 61 there. also its been discussed that fireboat 5's new home will be in the hut where E-77 is being housed right now. not sure about where they would put the hut tho.

firecapt,

1 of your cousins is a member in my company. Edgar Brennen. it looks like you have more ties to the Tarrytown FD than i do lol.

its my understanding that tarrytown planned to buy an additional ladder for some time now. when hope hose (E-79) was up for a new aparatus it was discussed that they would be the ones to recieve the tower ladder. i am not sure exactly what happend but they got a pumper instead. when it came time around for washington engine to get a new truck the idea again was brought up because of a need for a ladder in the south end of the village. either way somebody was getting a ladder truck in this village to accompany truck 37.

not sure if you have seen washington engines quarters on kaldinburg street (spelled it wrong) but it is very old and would not accomidate a bigger aparatus. i dont think anybody in the department is mad that 78 got the tower ladder because they train like animals and if a company had to get a ladder for the south end i am glad it was washington.

you dont like the blue? haha. it takes some getting used to but it really is a beautiful truck.

so dave you been doing some home work  huh dont use that any more

outgrew that long time ago

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yea i did a little homework on you.

pretty impressive resume you have there. how long were you a paid guy for? how long have you been an instructor over at the county? i also found out that you are a member of my department (correct me if i am wrong) but you are a member of truck 37?

are you only an instructor for the paid probie program or do you do the volunteers training too?

just wondering how many members does Tl-78 and E-77 have per company? and how many of these members are active,? how many are interior FF's?

Thanks in advance for any info...

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ok, got the information for you for E-77. We have 27 active members, about 17 of them act as interior FF's.

As far as updates, we have seen the newly updated plans for the 1 bay fire house where Consolidated Engine is to be, the plans are set on the corner of medow street and sheldon avenue. it is a modest building but still very nice and 10000x better than what we have now.

Buster,

I hope the conference went well. see you in the forums

just wondering how many members does Tl-78 and E-77 have per company? and how many of these members are active,? how many are interior FF's?

Thanks in advance for any info...

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sorry it took me so long to answer. i cant answer for TL-78 and ill check on an exact number for E-77's. id hate to give you a number thats not accurate. i have a lot going on right now so just give me a few days and ill get back to you.

firecapt,

i dont think the board is excluding members for the vote by fd connections. like u said, there would not be a vote if they did that. the word from the mayor is that the state says trustees hoyt and basher cant vote because they are both members of the fire department and hoyt espeacially being a member of consolidated as well as the vice president of the company. from what i know right now, the vote will be between trustees clarice pallock, tom butler, doug zollo, mary mcgee, and mayor fixell. i guess we will see how it goes.

psyicals and cert training are done every year followed by the fit test. every active member eligible for pension made their osha hours last year and we are 3/4 the way done with them this year (still need to do some ground ladder work and turn out gear)

chief scogna just brought up the nims to us at the last officers meeting. we all have to have it done by 2007 and i believe it is an online test.

also every active driver who is eligible for pension has completed evoc. they did it not too long ago in irvington. every driver did it not because they had to but because the chief driver suggested it.

the last time the by laws were updated completly was before i became a department member. but for the last year or so there has been a by-law commitee who has drafted and updated a new set of department by laws.

have a good trip, talk to you when you get back

when you say "looking toward the future" what exactly do you mean other than what i have posted before in the forum. trucks will get bigger but really only in the sense that they get longer. fire aparatus have to be DOT complyant (i did not spell that right) and i believe both washington engine's (now TL-78) building and E-77's building will be built with extra space behind the engine or tower ladder to accomidate a longer aparatus in the future. people cant use that as an excuse not to build a fire house when that is only a matter of a few feet behind where the aparatus sits.

i happend to see one of these neighbors today and she said something very funny to me "that new tower ladder cant even fit on the streets in this village and that company only has 5 guys in it". this isent the first time i heard something like this about TL-78's membership and the last time i did i went to a village board meeting and told them how wrong they were. FD7807, correct me if i am wrong but TL-78 has 1 of the biggest memberships in the department right? also they have a ton of new guys who they are just training now. this just proves how ignorant people really are and they try to pass off their oppinions and heresay as facts.

with this whole issue, we will see what happens. last i heard the board is going to be putting it to a vote with the excusion of bobby hoyt and tom basher because they are department members. hopefully all goes in favor of the fire department and E-77 and TL-78 both have new homes.

Heres an idea --if the village owns the land at meadow street and the land is too hard to build on on white plains road, why not concider makinig the 2 bay on meadow street. hmmmm am i being logical or stupid. main street fire  house could be dupliciated. 2 meeting rooms 2 recational rooms, one common kitchen . been working pretty well there for years.

I will comment on the "bunch of drunks" comment. it was out of line  thats for sure.. please do not take the next comment personally it is not intended  to get any one  pissed off but,

when you have a public building and it is public built with public funds taxpayer money, and there is a "bar" or "soda machine"!!! that despinses anything stronger then soda, there are bound to be some one watching and comments made.

The age to join is 18 the drinking age is 21 the "soda machine" dosent know the difference. if a underage firefighter  has a key to the station and the machine is avaiable to them. every one is suspect. again please do  not take this as anything more then my comment.

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the space on medow street where consolidated quarters are planned to be is too small for a 2 bay. if we take anymore room then it will be cutting into the day care centers playground and then the entire department looks like scum for taking away childrens playgrounds.

i really dont think the comment about being "a bunch of drunks" came from my company's soda machine whether it only has soda or not. FD7807 is right, it came from 1 specific neighbor with a problem with 2 or 3 of our guys. i wish i could take it with a grain of salt but i cant stand these people when they say "its not personal" and then turn around and tell me we are a bunch of drunks. isent that making it personal?

I'm not looking to criticize you or anyone else but I have to disagree with a couple of things

Building one large apparatus bay would allow for enough room  for the tower ladder as well as plenty of room for an engine. This would also provide space for the future if larger apparatus are purchased down the road. In Greenville, the apparatus bay is pretty much one big room with 4 bays. The ceiling height allows for both a ladder and engine to fit with plenty of extra space.

I have to disagree with each company having their own section. Remember, you guys are part of the same department regardless of what company you are in.

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i dont debate that high ceilings are great to fit both engines and ladder trucks, the point i was making was that it costs more to make the ceiling high while still having a second floor.

i respect your opinion about companies sharing. i hate to beat a dead horse here, but 1 of the 2 main factors of 77 being put where it is, is the response time issue for its membership. 77 is placed on that side of 119 for a reason, its a strategical placement for that engine.

believe me, 77 does not hate TL-78! thats all propaganda started by the neighbors who protest the fire house. the officers and members of both companies get along very nicely with eachother. its not about that. its about 1. the cheaper cost of building 2 buildings instead of 1 (i dident make that up, research and studies show that the savings is 770,000. check out my last post for the reasons why given to us by the architect) and 2. like i said before, 77 is strategically placed on that side of 119 to get quick access to the thruway, the south end, and the glenville protection district.

i dont feel like you are critisizing me or my company or the chiefs in my department or the village of tarrytown, so feel free to ask questions. your opinion is yours and i wont try to bend it till it matches mine. however i will give you the facts you are looking for when you ask questions.

what about the cost of heating 2 seperate stations, electricity for each house  air conditioning each station.  expansion isnt just a bigger fire truck. what about when the south end needs an ambulance or a police sub station.

Im not doubting you on you response times im sure you timed them correctly. engines and ladders go togeather like peanut butter and jelly they are good seperate but better togeather. I wil say the  the Chief did handle himself in a very professional manner. I would nt expect anything different. the citizens were concerned about safety they didnt think temp housing was going to be perment.

did the village ever loook into a scalled down 2 bay?? there stillare a lot of  unanswered questions.

77 deserves a new station no one is arguing that point but every one must think of the good of the village.

has any one done any recuiting along white  plains road?? looking for new firefighters that do lilve closer??

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the village already pays for heating, electricity, etc. for all fire houses in the village. thats not even been brought up because i assume people dont mind that a small portion of their tax dollars goes to these things when this is a volunteer department. I dont have numbers for you on how much it costs to heat our temporary fire house and the hut where the truck is, but if u really want i will try to find out.

tarrytown ambulance is not part of the village technically, they are a separate agency entirely with no village funding.

no answer for you about a police substation. sorry.

the old village board looked into how to cut down the 2bay firehouse on 119. it was explained in a board meeting my sean mccarthy who is the architect. 2 bay fire houses need a long hall way close to the middle, this hallway needs to be reinforced with baring walls (which makes it more expensive). also we would have 1 meeting room for E-77, 1 meeting room for TL-78, 2 separate kitchens, 4 bathrooms in total (1 mens on the first floor and second floor, 1 womans on the first and second floor). that is the bare minimum that sean mccarthy said we need to have according to the state.

i am not mad at the neighbors when they say they do not want their child to be hit by a fire truck. i am sure it is a legitament concern. the thing i get mad at is when the neighbors tell my company we are "a bunch of drunks" and other personal attacks like that. its just unneccisary

membership has expanded. tarrytown now takes members from sleepy hollow, elmsford, and irvington. we will not go door to door on white plains road and ask people to join, but they are all aware this is a volunteer department that needs members because they all get the pamphlet every year.

if you think there are "still a lot of unanswered questions" ask them. ime not shy on the subject and i know from posts with you in the past, you arent either. if i dont know the answer to 1 of your questions, i will find some1 who does and have them respond to you.

lfdR1,

I have a few answers for firecapt32 and all you guys,

"where will they put 77 while the new station is being built?? are they planning for any future expansion for either one of the stations. Tarrytown already has a trailer with no home as well as a converted truck with extra things parked next to riverside hose."

77's aparatus will most likely remain where it is when the building is being constructed, but the trailor for meetings will be moved and we will use riverside hose for meetings (but thats not definate). are we planning for future expansion? yes, 77 will remain an engine company so the truck does not get much wider, and the building is made with extra space in the engine room to make room for a possibly longer truck in the future, as well as extra height.

Yes Tarrytown has a trailor and as disgusting as it seems to some people, we still take pride in it and call it home for the time being. also i cant really comment on utility truck 61 because i do not know what the plans for it are.

neighbors are actually protesting the site on medow street for consolidated engine. i do not agree with their concern for their children being hit by a fire truck, but i respect it because anything is possible. TL78 had a very nice ground breaking ceremony on 119 and then all men and aparatus went down the hill to medow street for E-77's ground breaking ceremony and were met by protestors screaming in our faces and personally attacking our chief. needless to say, chief scogna is a better man than i am because i would have yelled back at them.

why are 2 fire houses cheaper than 1?

- the site on 119 where TL-78 is being placed is on a parking lot. under the parking lot is solid rock. The money it would take for crews to dig up all that rock is huge.

- TL-78 obviosly needs a higher ceiling for their ladder and bucket to fit in, E-77 does not need this ceiling space and you cant have 2 different ceiling heights. it is more expensive for the higher ceiling

- when TL-78 and E-77 were going over living together in the 2 bay house, both companies aggreed that it would be better if we had a dividing wall down the middle. (people saying that is because we do not get along with TL-78 members is completly BS) the wall in the middle would be a baring wall and that costs more money

- the property donated to the village in actuality is not that big when you consider the size of a 2 bay fire house and parking for the members. if we were to have the 2 bay house we would have to find more land somewhere.

- there is no price on a life. a fire in the south end of the village breaks out right now and it will take me 43 seconds to get into my aparatus (yes i timed it) moving E-77 to 119 it will take me 3 minutes and 46 seconds (again yes i timed it). these times are just for me, not for the driver who operates the pump. by the time 911 is called, the fire has already been moving for about 5 minutes. 911 transfers to county control, county control transfers to tarrytown police, tarrytown police page out for the fire department. it is an educated guess that 15 minutes will pass from the time the fire starts to the time the first engine is on scene. that is a long long time if someone is stuck on the fire floor with no way out except jumping. leaving the engine where it is now, that response time will be under 8 minutes and you can take that to the bank.

i hope i answered some questions for you guys, feel free to keep asking more.

thanks to everybody who gave some support in the forums

66Alpha1 is right, there is no good study guide you can buy for the test. the best way to go into the test is calm and confident and if you arent already doing it, see if you can get on site scoring because it will make you feel better when you know if you passed or failed right after the test.

a good portion of the test is knowing correct stable vital signs for different age groups. make sure you review that and know what normal vital signs there are for adults, children, and infants. also review your obgyn questions because there usually are a good amount of questions on that. cpr is really not on there that much, you might catch 1 or 2 questions on it.

burns and care for burns will be on there too so look over notes on that.

other than that, READ YOUR QUESTIONS CAREFULLY! the state is known for making wording hard on this test so read the question 2-3 times and then answer. you get a lot of time for the test so take your time

good luck to you, really its not that bad of a test so dont let your nerves get to you

Date: 3/25/06

Time:1438

Location: Bayer Labs

Frequency: Tarrytown Highway

Units Operating: 2462,2463, E-76,E-77,TL-78,E-79,E-80, Elmsford Engine

Description Of Incident: Large Brush Fire on hill

Writer: DaveTFD

1438- Alarm 1-6 transmitted for E-77 to respond to Bayer Labs on the hill for a minor brush fire

1440- 2462 10-19 requesting a second minor alarm 1-1 be put out for E-80 to respond with man power. E-77 responding

1442- E-77 10-19, E-80 responding. Small brush fire spread due to wind about 1 mile up the steep hill. Fire now covering large area of woods. 2462 requests Tarrytown Fire Comm. to put out a general alarm and to put Sleepy Hollow engine on stand-by in Main Street fire headquarters.

1444- E-80 10-19 hitting hydrant. Incoming units advised to enter Dunnings drive and extend lines through that side. Fire continues to spread and moving fast due to dry leaves and wind. 2463 10-19 Dunnings drive. E-76, TL-78, E-79 responding

1447- E-76, TL-78, E-79 10-19 Dunnings drive. 2462 requests all man power to enter woods with tools and hand lines to be extended. Fire still spreading

1458- Elmsford chief advises 60-control that one of their engines with man power is operating at the near by marriot hotel and requests to know if they are needed. 2462 advises the Elmsford engine to respond to Dunnings drive for man power.

1540- fire spread cut off

1550- fire k/d. 2462 orders all area to be wet down throughly

1615- as per 2462 all units can pick up and return with thanks to Elmsford Fire and Sleepy Hollow

near by neighbors say the fire was caused by 3 kids setting off fire crackers in the dry leaves

Date: 03/18/06

Time: 1324

Location: 24 South Washington Street

Frequency: Tarrytown Highway

Units Operating: 2462, E-76, E-77, TL-78, E-79, E-80, L-37. Irvington Rescue, 2201

Description Of Incident: Fire in house

Writer: DaveTFD

1324- Tarrytown units dispatched to a report of a fire in a house located in the basement

1325- 2462, E-79, E-80 responding

1326- E-79 on scene, E-76, L-37, TL78 responding

1327- 2462 on scene with E-80 reporting fire in the basement of the home. 2462 requests 80 to enter building, and for PD to put out alarm 16 for E-77 to respond with man power, and for Irvington Cascade truck to respond. E-76, L-37 on scene

1328- TL-78 on scene, E-77 responding

1333- as per 2462, fire K/D checking for extension. 2462 requests C/O from county to respond

1354- E-77, TL-78, E-76, can pick up and return as per 2462

1413- All remaining units clear of scene

Date: 03/14/06

Time:1006

Location: I-87 Southbound by I-287 split

Frequency:

Units Operating: 2462, E-77, TL-78, Tarrytown VAC

Description Of Incident: MVA w/ pin

Writer: DaveTFD

1006: Tarrytown units paged out by Tarrytown Police to respond to I-87 south bound by the I-287 split for a MVA with entrapment and possible fire

1009: 2462 on scene reporting 1 trapped occupant in vehicle, car rolled on its roof and no fire showing

1010: E-77 on scene stabilizing car

1013: TL-78 on scene with Tarrytown VAC

on impact of roll over, doors popped open. pt stuck upside down with head pinned between roof and car seat. rear of car not accessible.

Tarrytown VAC and Fire slid board through the back door to move pt

1037: pt removed from car and enroute to WCMC

1103: all Tarrytown units clear of the thruway

when you take the class you are eligible for 5 credits, but you have to pay for the credits. your instructor will tell you everything you need to know. i hope you get Mcveigh as your instructor, hes the best there is

Date: 2-6-06

Time: 0933

Location: I-87 south bound mm 11.5 (Tarrytown)

Frequency:

Units Operating: 2461, 2462, E-77, TL-78, E-79, TVAC 81-B1

Description Of Incident: possibly 5-6 car MVA with pin involving tractor trailor

Writer: DaveTFD

0933: 60 control requests Tarrytown units to respond to 87 south mile marker 11.5 for possibe 5-6 car MVA with pin involving tractor trailor

0939: Tarrytown units on scene reporting 2 cars involved, 1 tractor trailor, 1 person pinned

0950: occupant extricated from vehicle and in care of by Tarrytown ambulance 81-B1

0957: ambulance enroute to WCMC. Speedy dry put down for vehicle fluids in the road

1018: all units clear of thruway

towels work beautifully espeacially in a "move quick" scenario. 1 or 2 on each side of the head taped in the obvious places and wrapped around the board. towels will stay with a persons head even if there is some movement. try it out and let me know what you think

...and we can buy one of these shirts where?   

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ime not sure but my best guess is to contact captain mike coffey about it. he would prolly know where to get his hands on some extra shirts for you