DaveTFD

Date: 12/17/05

Time: 1608

Location: 65 tarryhill road

Frequency: tarrytown highway band

Units Operating: Cars 2461/2462, E-76, E-77, E-78, E-80, L-37

Description Of Incident: House Fire

Writer: DaveTFD

1608- E-77 and L-37 dispatched to strong smell of gas at 65 tarryhill road

1612- E-77 10-19. car 2461 re2quests to upgrade minor alarm to box alarm for fire in the walls

1613- E-77 hits hydrant

1614- 2461 requests Irvington FAST team, and a ladder and engine to standby in tarrytown

1615- fire in the walls running from garage to attic. attempting to locate the source

1619- Irvington Car 2202, 2201 and R-49 responding.

1627- Ossining requested to re-locate a ladder to the Beekman Ave. firehouse in Sleepy Hollow to standby

1630- fire located in garage ceiling possibly caused by electric. 2461 orders bathroom wall above garage to be opened up to vent.

1632- Tarrytown Fire Comm. advise 60-control 10-30 as per 2461. Irvington FAST to be released and E-86 Sleepy Hollow

1642- attic and all rooms vented. all apparatus are to pick up and return.

1702- E-77 ordered to pull booster line for small rekindle in garage

1746- all units clear

Date: 12/17/05

Time: 2014hrs

Location: county house road and tarrytown lakes

Frequency: Tarrytown highway

Units Operating: car 2462, E-77, E-78, U-61

Description Of Incident: MVA with Extrication

Writer:

2014: E-77 and E-78 dispatched to MVA with extrication

2018: car 2462 requests E-77 to expedite with hurst tool

2019: E-77 and E-78 on scene. Tarrytown Ambulance 81-B1, and Sleepy Hollow Ambulance 73-B1 operating at scene. car with 4 seriously injured occupants from head on collision.

2024: STAT flight requested by captain 81-B1 and additional greenburgh paramedics to respond. Irvington ambulance 64-B1 requested to respond also

2033: all occupants extricated from vehicle and transported to westchester medical center

2042: county AIU to respond

2145: E-78 released by 2462. E-77 and U-61 to stand by

2330: E-77 and U-61 ordered to pick up and return by car 2462

i stopped down at the wet down for a few minutes. i couldent stay long but the TL is pretty nice. the captain Mike Coffey and all the members are working and training pretty hard on the truck and it should be a nice addition. id hate to be the one driving that truck tho. 11 feet behind the rear axel is pretty big.

heres my question for you: do you really have to notify the hospital you are enroute to that you are coming? or is it just a nice thing to do. when i took my EMT cert i was taught that it was just a nice thing to do, but when you get out into the feild hospital nurses will do everything short of attack you if you dont.

so do you or dont you have to?

good post jl008h, thanks

when you get a call for an emotionally disturbed person do you assume they are violent? what precautions do you take?

personally i have had a few bad experiences with EDP's, 3 days after i got my EMT cert i went on a call for an EDP. it was a 17 yr old male. he wasent acting up at all, and we even carried a good conversation. when we got into the ambulance PD asked me if i wanted a ride along and stupidly i said no. enroute to the hospital the kid pulled a knife on me and almost stabbed me. i was able to restrain him but in the process i broke 2 of his fingers by accident.

now when i get an edp i always take a cop with me, i have him patted down before we get into the ambulance, at the first sign of violence he is restrained and i put a NRB on his face so he cant bite or spit at me.

what do u guys do?

WCC (westchester community college) gives you 5 college credits for the course

i give 78 credit, but it is expected for them to learn their truct isent it? its a new truck and people need to be broken in on it. its just part of the "job"

but definatly good luck to them

ill be stopping by to give toys

all really good posts btw

i actually documented it as a stretcher malfuntion (and used 2 pcr continuation forms to do it) even tho it was really a mistake made by a nervous junior member excited to unload somebody.

thanks for the posts

this is how i understand it and i could be wrong. EMT-B's used to be EMT-D's. i think it just changed because not only EMT's can use AED's anymore, the common first responder can do that. also i believe the original training for EMT-D's including reading heart rythems.

feel feel to correct me if ime wrong guys, otherwise ime gunna go on thinking this until 1 day i look stupid when i say it

without turning this into a rant from any1 because it is a ligit question from me, is there really hostility between paid and volunteer departments?

i mean, if fairview has a structure fire, would they not call elmsford because they are volunteer? and if they did would there be tension?

ive never experienced this because i am surrounded by volunteer departments and we all have mutal respect for eachother.

agian no ranting please and keep it friendly between the paid and volunteer guys/girls

not saying this incident happend, but ime curious

you get a call for a mva involving a motorcycle. u get on scene to a 27 yr old male, compound fracture to L-femur, broken L-arm/R-wrist, helmet on and not badly damaged but strap is choking pt slightly. LOCx4 minutes reportedly going in excess of 80 mph in street race with other motor cycle and hit concrete barrior. - lung sounds on left side.

spo2 68, pulse 120, bp 86/72, resps 26 labored.

we all know wut to do with that so far. ALS was on board... we get to trama center

heres where i wanna know wut your would do-

unloading the patient from the back there is a newer guy who might have been rushing a little bit and he did not let the legs of the stretcher lock, the pt and the entire stretcher hit the ground.

you are the crew chief, how do u write that up?

i took mine onsite at laguardia too. its nerve wrecking waiting outside with people for them to come out 1 by 1 to tell u infront of every1 if u passed or failed.

when they come out with your results, they give u a temporary piece of paper that says you are an emt. dont lose the paper tho because if they forget to send you the card you have to have the paper to get it from the state. if it says you passed then that very second u r a practicing EMT. pretty sweet huh? lol

its definatly worth the drive to not have the months of worries that u failed

good luck on your test

lets see where to begin on this subject. Fires physicals are not new been around a very long time. Every firefighter must have one 29 CFR 1910.156 fire brigade standards. If you go to a haz mat call and we all do(Car leaking gas is hazmat) 29CFR1910.120. physicals must include a pulmanory function test. there is also a standard for a mask fit test if you wear a SCBA. thats only  a start. Departments must have SOP's or SOG's. I do hope sam the grant man can get you  some money--belive me theres a lot of it out there.

I saw the truck out at the FDIC thanks for the invite I just might be there.

As i have said before 77 deserves a new home and it should have happened a long time ago 4 yeaars is too long to wait for a fire station.  sounds like the elected officials were not doing a great job. how are the new Officials  doing??

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thanks for your response on the psyical's standards. ime actually going to forward your post to the chief and my company captain if its ok with you.

the new elected officials are giving us a run around with the whole thing but last night at the village board meeting they said that the study for the woods/wetlands across the street from the temp fire house is buildable on and they are hireing an architect to draw plans for a firehouse there. so i guess some progress is being made. ime sure u heard about the protest from the neighbors that do not want the firehouse where it was before. some of them are actually moveing, which is ok with me. a few weeks ago 1 of them asked me if i thought i was a better village resident then they were because i volunteered and i gave them a truthful answer and said yes. they dident like that very much. so i guess that supports their reasons for moving.

just a question on the psyicals: we had an OSHA survey given to us that was suposed to evaluate us for the need of a full psyiscal assessment. after we passed that (and we did except for people who had heart attacks and strokes or any major medical problem) we took a SCBA fit test and that was suposed to be the standards for OSHA for us to be active firefighters. our SOG's say that we follow OSHA standards. so have we followed OSHA standard enough to be considered active firefighters? post back when u can

qualifications for chief are you have to have atleast FF1/essentials, and fire officer 1

company officers there really arent much of a requirement espeacially with declining membership recently. FF1 is preferred but not required, you need to be cleared to wear a SCBA. thats about it

We live and die in the fire service according to  our budgets-- from  what we buy. How we buy it. How much is spent on what. where money is placed  who has access to it.

Do we have committies set up to look at the latest and greatest things in the fire service?

Do we need whats out there?

Do we have money to send firefighters to confrences ??seminars?? Training sessions?? Are we getting grants?? Do we know  how to write grant proposals?

whats out there??

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really good topic.

Just recently tarrytown set up a commitee to look at grants for the "latest and greatest" tools and equipment out there. i dont think we necisarily need whats out there, but to keep up with the times and technology it is good to have the new things that are out there for us. i can only answer for tarrytown but yes the chief will send people to seminars and trainings and pay for the entire thing. if any department is looking into grants, look up "sam the grant man" i think thats actually on his business card. tarrytown just hired him. he is good

is the new 78 in service?? as both the ladder and pumper??  I hope so. Dont take this the wrong way  but I would nt want to be the driver of the new 78 if he wasent trained to use it as a ladder and/or a pumper.  how would you explain to some one "ohh I can only use the pump so please stay on the roof while we wait for  the other ladder to arrive" ,theres not enough ink in a pen to fill out the reports for that one

heres an eye opener  for you go check and see if Tarrytown has gotten any grants in the last few years.  dont waste your time the answer is no, at least I cant find any grants given to the Tarrytown F.D. . Dave you seem like a smart person. look at the big picture of the department and let me know  what you really see out there .

I aggree with you  77 should have a home and the sooner the better. IM sure the chief was only one vote on a truck committee  so other on 78 must have had a voice in the matter.  looking foward to contuining this

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the new 78 is not in service yet, but when it does it will be acting as a ladder and a pumper with 300 gallons of water on board. tomoro night captain mike coffee is having a dual drill with E-76 on ladder and pump operations. the wetdown for it is November 19th (feel free to stop down and see the truck. i am working that day so i cant say see u there but definatly feel free to stop down. the wet down is on west main street at the senior center.)

lol its funny u mention the grants because we recently had our monthly meeting and we have a new grant man "sam the grant man" who is looking into grants for us.

i am sure you have heard there is a lot of things going on in tarrytown and its pretty terrible. it used to be all 6 companies being 1 and now its 6 companies being 6. a lot of disputes with the chief and most recently a mandatory psysical from the NFPA standard wich is weird because we follow the OSHA standards (comment on that if u know anything involving requirements for active members. i know you are involved in training and such. so if u know about what the minimum standards on psyicals are for active members according to OSHA let me know)

also upcoming on November 20th at 7am-1or2 consolidated engines annual iggy serina memorial breakfast. its at riverside hose companies quarters on franklin street. come down and have some breakfast on E-77. bring your guys too, the more the merrier

Is this the same breakfast that they have on the sunday before Thanksgiving?

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it sure is. come down and have some breakfast :angry:

2 days ago i got a child abuse call and it happend to be that i knew the father and i have for a long time. the 7 year old child had welts on his back and bruises on his left eye and cheek bone. he told me it was from a fall during a baseball game. as much as i like the guy i had to report it and it kind of runined my relationship with him. i dont feel bad about the incident because if i dident report it then how long would this of gone on? he possibly couldve killed the kid.

good topic

good post on a different angle to view this topic.

i hadent thought about that in the slightest bit. i am in southern westchester but if i worked in yonkers or the south bronx i would take your advice. i remember a while back in EMT class when i took it they said the same thing. but since i am in a "good neighborbood" i havent really thought about it

thanks for your post

good post benny

Dave  not atacking any one  please believe me on that its the interest of  fire service.

where are the  drivers of 78??  dont they live around  the 78 station?? they are moving their company apx 2 1/2 miles form its present location.

the money  part  heres my thought -the village allowed them to buy a fire truck worth 980k  so money shouldnt be a problem  unless  someone over spent on the apparatus- and  dont tell me that 980k is standard for a piece of firefighting equipment.

Im always interested in your opion and will keep it on a professional level I mean no disrepect to any firefighter that gives his time and energy to protect the public-- just remember that its the public we are protecting  not our egos.

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firecapt,

i appreciate your interest in this matter (seriously).

there are not a lot of drivers on 78. if we had an alarm right now, odds are a driver from 77 or a driver from 79 would drive E78. Last night we had a reported car fire on 87 north bound and a driver from 77 drove 78 so they can get out.

its my opinion that the near 1 million dollar TL was bought on a chiefs greed with grant money and village money that shouldve been put towards other things. this chief designed the truck himself, and is personally overseeing everything. certainly 980k is not standard for a single piece of apparatus, i agree with u. my interest to be honest is not with TL78, it is soley with my company E77 who still is without a firehouse 4 1/2 years later. i dont agree with any company being put on 119 because it severly hinders response time. you said it perfectly "just remember that its the pulic we are protecting not our egos" and i agree with u. however moving a truck away from the majority of the public in the south end is not good for the public. there is ego involved, but our main concern still is and always will b the saftey of the residents.

comment back if u can. your posts are interesting and i am curious about your opinions

navy bdu's, navy/white polo ems shirt, black boots

i grew up with backdraft. i watched it every time my dad went out to an alarm. i have prolly seen it 200 times and a single tear comes out of my left eye when i see the end of the movie. i guess i think it is a better movie because i relate to it. my sister is a firefighter, my father has been 1 for 42 years, and now i am 1. every time i go into a building with my sister and dad i cant help but to think about backdraft. 1 of the best movies ever made and will ever be made. backdraft is an american classic, ladder 49 is an imposter