Grumpy

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    Ok.. Here is an example of fdny Alarm Assignments.

    Phone Alarm- 2engs and 1 truck with 1 chief

    2nd Source - 1 eng and 1 truck added

    10-75 - 1 eng and 1 truck(FAST) with 1 chief added

    All hands - 1 Deputy

    2nd Alarm - 4engs and 2 trucks with 2 chiefs added

    3rd Alarm - 4 engs and 1 truck with 1 chief added

    Total so far 12 engs - 6 trucks - 5 chiefs and 1 deputy 

    12 engs x 5 FF's = 60

    6 Trucks x 6 FF's = 36

    5 Chuefs x 2 FF's =10

    1 Deputy x 2 FF's = 2

    Ok now lets add some special units

    10-75 - 1 Squad, 1 Rescue

    All hands - 1 Rac

    2nd Alarm - Field Comm - Safety & Soc Chiefs - Tac unit - Forensic Unit - Satellite Water System

    3rd Alarm - MSU - Public Information

    Starting to get the idea.. This also does not inculde any special called trucks over the norm.. 

    This was a top floor fire with explosion and fire in the cockloft.  Ask me 140 sounds like nothing when you think you have to replace every unit that has a injury and FDNY Sops are 2 engs for every one hose line.

    I think I was close enough for an old Burbs' guy. I forgot some units. My apologies. tbendick sounds like the WORD! Thanks. Just knew the EMS guy was uninformed.

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    Some 140 firefighters rushed to the three-alarm inferno at 2585 Grand Concourse after a 911 call came in at 11:45 a.m. 

    "It was a very serious fire," said FDNY spokesman Bill Green. "The firefighters had to use four hand lines to put it out." 

    Okay. I'm not a firefighter but, doesn't is seem like 140 guys for four handlines is a bit overkill? You'd think with that much manpower there would be more lines going at once. OR am I missing something.

    4 lines equals about 24 eng . co. men, plus ladder co.s, doing their search and venting, another 20-25 men, rescue and other special units, another 12 men, plus chiefs and their drivers, plus relief units for eng. and ladder co.s, another 25-30 guys or more. The more alarms put in, the more troops. I'm not FDNY so I suggest you talk to one of them. You're right though, it dosen't take 140 men to run 4 lines. But to do a complete job, it might!