Reliance

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  1. 70 sq miles isn't that big...... A 10 mile long by 7 mile wide district is very reasonable in rural areas... Especially with a sub-station or two.

    There are no substations only one main station.

    Measured by car. It is 12 KMs across & 25 kms down for an area of approximately 300 square kilometers or 115.8 square miles.


  2. Damn, I'm all for supporting regional services as opposed to individual town departments...but 70 miles with one station? Unless the area you cover has more moose than people, that seems like asking for trouble.

    I am just wondering how big some territories are.

    Ours in Nova Scotia, Canada is 183 square kilometers out of one fire station with 3 pumpers, 2 tankers, 1 platform, 1 Rescue, 2 utilities, 1 support trailer and one HAZ MAT trailer.

    The first out pumper is manned by two career firefighters and then if needed the volunteers are paged out. The two career firefighters handle about 80% of the 400+ calls a year without the aid of the volunteers.

    http://cms.firehouse.com/dept/YarmouthNSCA website

    Revised figures.


  3. I am just wondering how big some territories are.

    Ours in Nova Scotia, Canada is 293 square miles or 180 square kilometers out of one fire station with 3 pumpers, 2 tankers, 1 platform, 1 Rescue, 2 utilities, 1 support trailer and one HAZ MAT trailer.

    The first out pumper is manned by two career firefighters and then if needed the volunteers are paged out. The two career firefighters handle about 80% of the 400+ calls a year without the aid of the volunteers.

    http://cms.firehouse.com/dept/YarmouthNSCA website


  4. When they redesigned the Stop n Shop on Palmer Ave in NR they put a Starbucks in there! There are tables to sit and have your coffee and eat. No thank you, I go to the food to to food shop, not study/read/socialize. Makes no sense to me.

    I'll still stick with my Tim Hortons or Irving Mainway as we don't have Starbucks in my part of Canada


  5. I think your car insurance might go up considerably if youre now using your vehicle as an "emergency vehicle", it would have to be classified as such if you were given the privilage of running lights and sirens and people were required to yield. Its a problem as it is now with trucks and POVs responding, when I train new people I tell them, when the whistle blows find somewhere to pull over. Blue lights do draw attention to you and John Q does make comments and asks why we dont give tickets to vollys for driving the way they do while responding to alarms.

    In Nova Scotia the only ones allowed lights and sirens on their POV is the Chief & Deputy Chief. Blue lights are only allowed to be used on Police vehicles.

    Also your insurance rate will go up considerably.


  6. Its the business end of things. When Freightliner (Dailmer-Benz) sold ALF to thier new owners, a lot of the record for inventory to say the least was "closed out" and "unaccessable" to say the least. That is why hey are in such a hole right now. The transition was not smooth at all.

    As for E-One, I don't have the foggiest idea why they are hurting so much. Has to be with Federal Signal really not paying much attention to them (speculation only).

    I hate to say it I think we are head back to what was happening during the mid 80s to early nineties when all those great companies Like Mack stopped producing full trucks and those closing up forever Like Hahn, Maxim, Ward LaFrance, ect...........

    I heard a rumor the Federal Signal corporate headquarters told the honchos in Florida how to build the trucks and not the way that the departments wanted them built. It's our way or no way.

    They did not want the plant listening to dealers just listen to financial people at Federal headquarters.


  7. Details on the recently ordered engine for Putnam Valley FD

    Replacing 24-2-2 our 1988 Pierce Lance 1,000/1,000 (formerly 24-2-1)

    2008 Spartan/Marion

    Spartan Gladiator 6 occupant cab w/ 10' raise

    ROM Roll up doors (painted) (with drip pans)

    Detroit Series 60 515 hp w/ Jacobs engine brake

    Allison EVS 4000 Auto

    Onan 10,000 watt Hydraulic generator

    1,000 gpm Waterous CS pump

    1,000 gal Poly booster tank

    Elkhart portable Extend A Gun

    Wil-Burt 3,000 watt light tower (17' mast)

    Whelen Super LED warning package

    200 watt Whelen Electric siren

    Federal Q2B Mechanical Siren

    All Wheel parking brake lock up

    Pac Trac mount in the upper compartment space

    Hose Bed capacity: 1,200' 5"hose , 300' 2 1/2 DJ hose

    2 crosslay's capable of holding 300' of 1/34 DJ hose each

    Extra "crosslay" compartment for backboard storage

    Safety Vision color back up camera

    Zico recessed backup lamps

    Think that about does it for now. Any questions--PM me

    Is that 10' as in 10 foot or 10" as in 10 inch raised roof.


  8. Emergency Vehicle operators are typically exempt from federal CDL regulations. That being said I wouldn't just anybody drive a truck that big. BTW it's a water tender...remember NIMS says it a tender, a tanker is an airplace that drops water. ;)

    In Canada a tanker is a fire apparatus that hauls alot of water from 1500 gallons and up.

    Water tender is not used in Canada for Fire apparatus thst I know of at least in Eastern Canada.

    Also in Nova Scotia all professional fire department operators have to have a Class 3 license, air brake endorsement and it is stamped Automatic or manual transmission use only depaending on what is used for you drivers test.


  9. Oswegowind - I know that you are one of the dispatchers in Yonkers and certainly have access to direct information. This is the area of your expertise, to which I and many truely respect. Knowing that YFD only has 2 Tower Ladders as front line pieces (71 & 75) and the 2 Oldest Front Line Engine Companies are 308 & 309, logic indicates that these would be the ones that would be replaced. However, yes, one cannot be absolutely certain and you would know better.

    As far as Corporate Business Law is concerned, in the position that I currently hold, I believe (and I may be wrong) that I might know a little more about the Bankruptcy Laws and can shed more light on this matter. American LaFrance, filing for Chapter 11, is used as a "relief" from creditors as they attempt to restructure their organization. It does, however, affect "Greatly" their ability to fill out current In-House orders, to which the Yonkers Fire Department has equipment on order. Most municipalities who go to contract for Capital Equipment Expeditures, usually have performance clauses built in, as safe guards, in case such instances as this, happen. Most municipal bids also have language built in, to which, if the Bid Award Contractor defaults, the company who bid the next lowest "could" be awarded the bid OR they could go back out to bid (the latter would certainly slow down the process even more than it current has been slowed down).

    Also, American LaFrance filing Chapter 11 covers ALL American LaFrance facilities, not just their New Carolina Facility.

    Thus, the subject of the post was to inquire whether or not Yonkers had built in any contingency plans within the contract and whether or not they were now looking to an alternate supplier, given ALF's current situation.

    Not being Pessimistic, trying to be Optimistic, but being a "Realist"

    Also remember, "Assume" is an "Educated" Guess.

    Stay Safe and Well

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    Pessimism doesn't get anyone anywhere! FYI, a number of corporations have filed chapter 11 and come back strong after re-organizing their focus and finances. Just assuming that the YFD will not get their apparatus is plain old ludicrous...doesn't ALF have more than 1 plant (?)...oh, and that is why there is a "play on words" using the word "assume"...Makes an a** out of u...in this case, not me!

    And I love how you guess the numbers that will be assigned new apparatus...argh!

    This post has been edited by Oswegowind: 24 minutes ago

    Updated news: http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/jan/29...maker_bankrupt/


  10. Hawthorne has a ladder and a utility/rescue on order from ALF. wounder whats going to happen??

    American LaFrance files for bankruptcy protection

    By John McDermott

    Monday, January 28, 2008

    American LaFrance, the troubled Summerville-based fire truck

    manufacturer, sought to keep its bill collectors at bay by filing for

    bankruptcy protection Monday.

    Calls to the company were not immediately returned.

    In documents filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware,

    American LaFrance said its assets and debts were between $100 million

    and $500 million. It did not elaborate.

    The company filed under "Chapter 11" of the bankruptcy code, which

    typically is used by businesses that need to buy time to reorganize

    their finances and secure new capital. In many cases, Chapter 11

    filers continue to operate.

    American LaFrance will likely submit a reorganization plan that would

    have to be approved by the court. That plan would spell out how it

    will repay all or a portion of its debts. The company said in its

    filing that it expects some funds will be available to repay

    unsecured creditors.

    The largest creditor listed in the filing is ACE USA and ACE Bond

    Services, which are owed a combined $44.5 million. Other large

    creditors include American LaFrance's owner, New York-based

    investment firm Patriarch Partners, and trucking giant Freightliner,

    which sold the business to Patriach about two years ago. Various

    employees are owed $1.4 million for accrued vacation.

    About 100 of the estimated 500 workers at American LaFrance's

    Summerville plant were temporarily dismissed in mid-December. The

    company said at the time that it needed to update its inventory

    system after its relocation last year from North Charleston to a new

    $62 million manufacturing plant near Jedburg Road and U.S. Interstate

    26. This month the company notified an undisclosed number of those

    workers that they would not be recalled until mid-March because

    American LaFrance did not have the money to order parts and resume

    full production.

    This was posted on www.firepics.net