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Damn, I'm all for supporting regional services as opposed to individual town departments...but 70 miles with one station? Unless the area you cover has more moose than people, that seems like asking for trouble.I am just wondering how big some territories are.
Ours in Nova Scotia, Canada is 183 square kilometers out of one fire station with 3 pumpers, 2 tankers, 1 platform, 1 Rescue, 2 utilities, 1 support trailer and one HAZ MAT trailer.
The first out pumper is manned by two career firefighters and then if needed the volunteers are paged out. The two career firefighters handle about 80% of the 400+ calls a year without the aid of the volunteers.
http://cms.firehouse.com/dept/YarmouthNSCA website
Revised figures.
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I am just wondering how big some territories are.
Ours in Nova Scotia, Canada is 293 square miles or 180 square kilometers out of one fire station with 3 pumpers, 2 tankers, 1 platform, 1 Rescue, 2 utilities, 1 support trailer and one HAZ MAT trailer.
The first out pumper is manned by two career firefighters and then if needed the volunteers are paged out. The two career firefighters handle about 80% of the 400+ calls a year without the aid of the volunteers.
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When they redesigned the Stop n Shop on Palmer Ave in NR they put a Starbucks in there! There are tables to sit and have your coffee and eat. No thank you, I go to the food to to food shop, not study/read/socialize. Makes no sense to me.I'll still stick with my Tim Hortons or Irving Mainway as we don't have Starbucks in my part of Canada
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Radio Shack 200 channell PRO 2037
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(For the humor impaired: this is just a delusion of mine)Even if it a delusion of yours. It is not a bad looking unit for whatever the purpose.
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Very sharp truck, best of luck.Very nice truck.. Who was the builder.
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Through .com and work and direct at home
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I think your car insurance might go up considerably if youre now using your vehicle as an "emergency vehicle", it would have to be classified as such if you were given the privilage of running lights and sirens and people were required to yield. Its a problem as it is now with trucks and POVs responding, when I train new people I tell them, when the whistle blows find somewhere to pull over. Blue lights do draw attention to you and John Q does make comments and asks why we dont give tickets to vollys for driving the way they do while responding to alarms.In Nova Scotia the only ones allowed lights and sirens on their POV is the Chief & Deputy Chief. Blue lights are only allowed to be used on Police vehicles.
Also your insurance rate will go up considerably.
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Congratulations and how are the sleepless nights.
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Nice rig except for the font on the sign.That is a very nice sign and I agree it looks very good on the side of the truck
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Nice rig except for the font on the sign.That is a very nice sign and I agree it looks very good on the side of the truck
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and the simpsons!i hate nascar...lets drive really fast in circles 200 times for 3 hours....i think i'd rather watch golf
Anyone see #24 crash with #17 & #88 tonight
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Jr and Harvick r my favs#9 Kasey Kahne GEM Motorsports
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Its the business end of things. When Freightliner (Dailmer-Benz) sold ALF to thier new owners, a lot of the record for inventory to say the least was "closed out" and "unaccessable" to say the least. That is why hey are in such a hole right now. The transition was not smooth at all.As for E-One, I don't have the foggiest idea why they are hurting so much. Has to be with Federal Signal really not paying much attention to them (speculation only).
I hate to say it I think we are head back to what was happening during the mid 80s to early nineties when all those great companies Like Mack stopped producing full trucks and those closing up forever Like Hahn, Maxim, Ward LaFrance, ect...........
I heard a rumor the Federal Signal corporate headquarters told the honchos in Florida how to build the trucks and not the way that the departments wanted them built. It's our way or no way.
They did not want the plant listening to dealers just listen to financial people at Federal headquarters.
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Details on the recently ordered engine for Putnam Valley FDReplacing 24-2-2 our 1988 Pierce Lance 1,000/1,000 (formerly 24-2-1)
2008 Spartan/Marion
Spartan Gladiator 6 occupant cab w/ 10' raise
ROM Roll up doors (painted) (with drip pans)
Detroit Series 60 515 hp w/ Jacobs engine brake
Allison EVS 4000 Auto
Onan 10,000 watt Hydraulic generator
1,000 gpm Waterous CS pump
1,000 gal Poly booster tank
Elkhart portable Extend A Gun
Wil-Burt 3,000 watt light tower (17' mast)
Whelen Super LED warning package
200 watt Whelen Electric siren
Federal Q2B Mechanical Siren
All Wheel parking brake lock up
Pac Trac mount in the upper compartment space
Hose Bed capacity: 1,200' 5"hose , 300' 2 1/2 DJ hose
2 crosslay's capable of holding 300' of 1/34 DJ hose each
Extra "crosslay" compartment for backboard storage
Safety Vision color back up camera
Zico recessed backup lamps
Think that about does it for now. Any questions--PM me
Is that 10' as in 10 foot or 10" as in 10 inch raised roof.
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Even on a rig, I can't stand the new look on the Ford's.Give it a chance and it will grow on you like the Pierce Quantum and the new velocity.
Also blame the US Federal Government and the EPA for making such harsh fuel requirements for the engiine sizes
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I wonder if this means Wolverine will absorb and finish that large Montgomery County, Maryland order for 30some pumpers, or if the county has contracted with another builder?By the way, am I the only one who has never heard of Wolverine Fire Apparatus?
Here is the link if anyone wants to read up on them. http://www.wolverinefire.com/
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Emergency Vehicle operators are typically exempt from federal CDL regulations. That being said I wouldn't just anybody drive a truck that big. BTW it's a water tender...remember NIMS says it a tender, a tanker is an airplace that drops water.In Canada a tanker is a fire apparatus that hauls alot of water from 1500 gallons and up.
Water tender is not used in Canada for Fire apparatus thst I know of at least in Eastern Canada.
Also in Nova Scotia all professional fire department operators have to have a Class 3 license, air brake endorsement and it is stamped Automatic or manual transmission use only depaending on what is used for you drivers test.
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Oswegowind - I know that you are one of the dispatchers in Yonkers and certainly have access to direct information. This is the area of your expertise, to which I and many truely respect. Knowing that YFD only has 2 Tower Ladders as front line pieces (71 & 75) and the 2 Oldest Front Line Engine Companies are 308 & 309, logic indicates that these would be the ones that would be replaced. However, yes, one cannot be absolutely certain and you would know better.As far as Corporate Business Law is concerned, in the position that I currently hold, I believe (and I may be wrong) that I might know a little more about the Bankruptcy Laws and can shed more light on this matter. American LaFrance, filing for Chapter 11, is used as a "relief" from creditors as they attempt to restructure their organization. It does, however, affect "Greatly" their ability to fill out current In-House orders, to which the Yonkers Fire Department has equipment on order. Most municipalities who go to contract for Capital Equipment Expeditures, usually have performance clauses built in, as safe guards, in case such instances as this, happen. Most municipal bids also have language built in, to which, if the Bid Award Contractor defaults, the company who bid the next lowest "could" be awarded the bid OR they could go back out to bid (the latter would certainly slow down the process even more than it current has been slowed down).
Also, American LaFrance filing Chapter 11 covers ALL American LaFrance facilities, not just their New Carolina Facility.
Thus, the subject of the post was to inquire whether or not Yonkers had built in any contingency plans within the contract and whether or not they were now looking to an alternate supplier, given ALF's current situation.
Not being Pessimistic, trying to be Optimistic, but being a "Realist"
Also remember, "Assume" is an "Educated" Guess.
Stay Safe and Well
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Pessimism doesn't get anyone anywhere! FYI, a number of corporations have filed chapter 11 and come back strong after re-organizing their focus and finances. Just assuming that the YFD will not get their apparatus is plain old ludicrous...doesn't ALF have more than 1 plant (?)...oh, and that is why there is a "play on words" using the word "assume"...Makes an a** out of u...in this case, not me!
And I love how you guess the numbers that will be assigned new apparatus...argh!
This post has been edited by Oswegowind: 24 minutes ago
Updated news: http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/jan/29...maker_bankrupt/
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This was posted on www.firepics.nethttp://www.charleston.net/news/2008/jan/28...tcy_protection/ This is the link to the Charleston Post & Courier with more news to follow tomorrow.
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Hawthorne has a ladder and a utility/rescue on order from ALF. wounder whats going to happen??American LaFrance files for bankruptcy protectionBy John McDermott
Monday, January 28, 2008
American LaFrance, the troubled Summerville-based fire truck
manufacturer, sought to keep its bill collectors at bay by filing for
bankruptcy protection Monday.
Calls to the company were not immediately returned.
In documents filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware,
American LaFrance said its assets and debts were between $100 million
and $500 million. It did not elaborate.
The company filed under "Chapter 11" of the bankruptcy code, which
typically is used by businesses that need to buy time to reorganize
their finances and secure new capital. In many cases, Chapter 11
filers continue to operate.
American LaFrance will likely submit a reorganization plan that would
have to be approved by the court. That plan would spell out how it
will repay all or a portion of its debts. The company said in its
filing that it expects some funds will be available to repay
unsecured creditors.
The largest creditor listed in the filing is ACE USA and ACE Bond
Services, which are owed a combined $44.5 million. Other large
creditors include American LaFrance's owner, New York-based
investment firm Patriarch Partners, and trucking giant Freightliner,
which sold the business to Patriach about two years ago. Various
employees are owed $1.4 million for accrued vacation.
About 100 of the estimated 500 workers at American LaFrance's
Summerville plant were temporarily dismissed in mid-December. The
company said at the time that it needed to update its inventory
system after its relocation last year from North Charleston to a new
$62 million manufacturing plant near Jedburg Road and U.S. Interstate
26. This month the company notified an undisclosed number of those
workers that they would not be recalled until mid-March because
American LaFrance did not have the money to order parts and resume
full production.
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Posted · Edited by Reliance
There are no substations only one main station.
Measured by car. It is 12 KMs across & 25 kms down for an area of approximately 300 square kilometers or 115.8 square miles.