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But they are dispatched from a center in Bingimton NY

I'll bet if we all looked around within every department, every firehouse in Westchester, Putnam etc. We can all find extra equiptment, hose, gear, adapters, axes, and all to send down to departments who lost everything.

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To bad I didn't know about this one sooner, I would have brought my cars there. '67 Mustang Conv. and while nowhere near done but drivable, Model "T"

Crowd and traffic if FEMA runs the emergancy.

Great balancing act with the plane. I fly a lot for business and all I can say is I would have ruined a good pair of underware just before I would have lost my mind. Obviously this plane had a great pilot and crew that handled this perfectly.

My hats off to the pilot and crew.

I'm working from home today and have FOX NEWS Network on and they're showing a crew of what looks like mostly FDNY members with several other departments judging from the different gear fighting a fire in a industrial building using New Orleans equiptment. Maybe 30+ from the footage from the air. This is what Fire Fighters are, not PR people. I do have to agree that the request through FEMA's web site did say it was mostly administrative and PR, not operational but the borthers in N.O. are exhausted. Don't know what the brothers in that hotel in Ga. thought but the request was pretty plain and simple on what they wanted the 1,000 firefighters for.

Just shows how FEMA needs to be totally taken apart and rebuilt. While several websites did say community relations, why send firefighters, highly trained in SAR as well as medics to do PR.

TRUCK6018 you are correct.

If called by and employed by FEMA, they cover you,

If you go as a FEMA volunteer you are still covered by them.

If you go and FEMA did not ask you or your department. You are not covered under the Mutual Aid portion of you fire companies insurance.

The only thing you can hope for is under the "good samaritan act" which does not cover much. If your car gets broken into or stolen or you are in an accident, your insurance may not pay or at least give you a hard time. While we all want to go myself included think of the risks involved. Legally nyour department is under no obligation to cover you in any way and the insurance companies won't.

Garrison Fire did one today and another next Saturday.

Today on the radio I heard a something that we all fear. Two words that if the supply starts to dwindle, GAS RATIONING!

With a percentage of our refining capabilities out this could be a possibility. Home heating oil prices going through the roof.

I called to suppliers local to me today, $2.49 a gallon for 200 gals. My last delivery in March was $1.79. That's 70 cents in 5 months. I see a run on sweat shirts and sweaters this fall.

First X635 your link cannot be found.

Second as for what we can do, first and formost they need the things we take for granted, drinking water, toiletries, basic food, a place to sleep, the list goes on. In the coming weeks and months cleanup crews. The list goes on and they don't know where to start. Lets put some ideas together as a group, coordinate and do it.

Shantz02, you do not need to buy tankers, however you do need to understand tanker operations. I came from fighting fires in Mt. Vernon. There you have a good hydrant system with a good supply of water. I am now in Northern westchester/Putnam where there is really no hydrants. Here we have limited water supply with tankers. Its real different when your on the nob and you run out of water. Fighting fires with a limited water supply you use different tactics to fight the fire. You need a water officer running the tankers, supply pumpers, pool drops and so on. Tanker ops are a whole different thing. While its not the normal for departments down county if the water system fails, you need to know what to do.

Smaller cars, conservation, If we use less gas and oil, they sell less. Right now the big oil companies are making record profits and the little guys, the gas stations are not. Small business that have to use vehicles for delivery etc are getting hurt the worst. 2 years ago I got rid of my SUV and bought an AWD car. Went from 10 to 26 MPG. Made my house more energy efficient too. I stopped buying name brand gas if I can find no name cheaper. There is not enough of a difference to pay another 5 to 10 cents a gallon. If we all did saome of these things if would make a difference and when big oil see's we are buying less as a nation they may rethink their stratergy.

No EJs, need a little more LOVE in it!!

No there is something real scarrrrry. Seeing some of the guys on this site huging each other.

AJS, 

how old do you want to go?

Back in 1922:

Truck No. 1 (Originally Clinton Hook & Ladder Co- 1856)  located at Fire Headquarters, 211 South 4th Ave.

Truck No. 2 (Originally Columbia Hose Co. No. 2- 1894) located on Oak St across from Bleeker Street (present location of E2 and E4).  Had been housed on North Railroad Ave near Mt Vernon Ave up until the name change in 1908.

Engine Co. No. 1 (Originally Protection Engine Co. No. 1- 1874) located in the Village of West Mount Vernon.

Engine Co. No. 2 (Originally Central Hose Co. #3- 1891) Eventually located on East Sidney Ave. (Im not sure if it was there back in '22, but that was the location for many years).

Engine Co. No. 3 (Originally Mt. Vernon Steam Fire Engine Co. No. 1- 1889) located at Fire Headquarters on South Fourth Ave. 

Chemical No. 1 (Originally Neptune Engine Co. No. 1  of the Town of Eastchester for 50 years until 1860. It was then renamed Washington Engine Co. No. 1) located at 23 South Sixth Ave.

Chemical No. 2 (Originally Niagara Hose Co. No. 2- 1888) located at 151 South Fulton Ave.

Chemical No. 3 (Originally Independent Hose Co. No. 1- 1889 and then Independent Hose Co. No. 2- 1895) located at 446 South Fifth Ave.

Chemical No. 4 (Originally Fire Patrol- 1886) location unknown.

Shantz - Chemical Eng #4 is now Engine 6 I believe stationed at 470 E Lincoln, Fire HQ

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TSULL, I have to agree with you. If the union says that by volunteering especially in a combo department takes away jobs, then working a second job in any profession that has a union but you are working as non union help, you are also taking away possible union jobs. You cannot discriminate.

In re-reading this thread I will say as for going on all EMS call? Tom, I agree if you have too many people just standing around doing nothing or getting in the way it makes no sense. Plus it may make the paitient or family nervous. We all know everyone runs to make the rig and not everyone is EMS trained in any way. As for MVA's, the other day we were returning from wires down and GVAC was dispatched for an MVA with minor injuries but we were not. Our chief called Putnam and told them we too were going to respond. Good thing we did. There was smoke coming from the cars electrical system. Had we not gotten there and attended to that we could have ended up with a car fire on a flatbed. I think any time EMS rolls on an MVA it should be a joint EMS/FD response and only to MVA's should it be automatic. Other EMS calls, let the on scene medic deside if he/she needs FD assistance.

Might have been the call for a suspicious package at 32 Street & 7 Ave, which turned out to be personal property after a proper ID by the Bomb Squad.

My wife was also in the area. She said 35th was blocked off and in addition to FDNY she did see PD Bomb Squad units. But this was on 35th from 5th to 6th. Got it from 2 different people. That's what happens when you work from home sometimes.

Does anyone know what's going on near the Empire State Building? A friend called and said that NYC Firefighters were running down 5th Ave by 35th street because the rigs were stuck in traffic and 34th Street was closed off. It takes a lot to abandon your rig and run to a scene espessially in this heat.

Ok to answer my own ??  I belive there were 6 working stations in the 70's but over the years there have been a dozen or so.  If you drive around the city you can still see some of the old one's that have been redone. A good example is the old Rescue quarters on Fulton Ave just north of 3rd St.  Last I saw I think it was a window company.

Other stations that are now closed, 211 4th Ave, former home to Eng. 3 and 4, 6th Ave. the old Truck 1. Now go back to the old, old books. Where was Eng. 6 before HQ? what about when Truck 2 was at Oak St. Where was Eng 1? What about the Fulton St station, where was Truck 3 or Eng 5?

I think first and formost is more available training. I know we need FF1 and 2 for the newer people coming in but there are dozens of tother classes that need to be given. Plus refresher courses for the members who have been around since things change over the years. In addition more coordination between county training facilities. Sometimes your own county training center is not easy one or closest one to get to.

Also the BS with firehouse politics has got to go. We are all here for one reason, or at least I hope we are. Lets just help one another instead of pointing fingers, making acusations etc.

How's that for a start?

Great shots .Really worked to get some of those shots of the collapse on Broadway. Love the elevated shotsdown onto the site.

He's a 16 Y.O. kid who's father is a member of Peekskill FD. He does have a website with many pictures from fires MVA's etc. in the Peekskill area. It seems to be legit.