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  1. the empire state building is built using entirely different methods.  You could not build something the size of the towers that way.  There is not a building in the world that could stand up in those conditions.  You have to remember that the buildings survived the impacts and performed as designed.  It was the extensive fire coupled with the massive structural damage that brought them to the ground.  The is no way to build a tower to survive that kind of impact.  You can only engineer them to allow more time for evacuation and rescue.

    Correct on all points. You could not build abuilding like the ESB the size of the WTC towers. They had to use methords that did not exist. Even the equiptment used. The cranes used were of a new design that raized themselves with each floor build, were dismantled at the end and lowered each other to the ground. The last was dismantled and brought down through the elevator shafts. Design changes were made on a daily basis as they ran into problems. First problem they ran into was that in the foundation the rebars were so tightly packed they could not get the concrete between them. They had to change the design of the foundation. The building was designed to use the most space so they designed the outside of the building to hold the weight. This allowed the open floor space with no columns and they doubled the rentable space. It supassed the building codes of the day. Pipe chases only ran 2 or 3 floors and were sealed. Multiple elevators in the same shaft. Also remember the blast in "93. It survived with minimal damage. The size of the blast would have taken many building down but this one stood. Many engineers say if there was just the impact and little fire it would have withstood the impact. The heat played a major factor. That kind of fire would destroy the ESB, the doct work, pipe chases etc. run constant through out the building.


  2. If you knew anything about the construction of the buildings you would probably be against building the exact same ones all over again.

    While there were many design flaws found, when they were built they were considered a design and construction marvel. The designers never took into account a plane as large as the one that hit because none existed that large in the 60's when it was designed. Yes there are many ways they can now improve upon and they indeed can build a similar type structue utilizing the new designs of today. I knew several of the engineers and designers that were involved and they used methods that were "state of the art" from the time. Don't forget these buildings were built in the 60's and completed in '73. Designs and safety regulations were different then.


  3. x635, I agree with a lot of what you say. As for career being there 24x7, yes but the knowledge and professionalism changes with shift. I've seen several Career FF's whose attitude changes after a few years and then it's just a job. Also as far as becoming more career than Vol. I'm originally from Mt Vernon. FDMV went from a comb dept. to all career. The difference? Same number for carrer members today as in 1975. Just did away with the Vol's. There are several departments with both in the county. Will they go the same route?


  4. As for x635's comments, ego's aside, since Westchester is so large, regional TR teams, with both career and vol. members. The thing about career, they work their shift anf go home. the vol's ar enot available 24x7. There are many dept's that have members young and old with huge egos. It won't be in your lifetime that this county goes even to 50% career. The money is just not there. We need to all get along you're right about that. There is nothing wrong with regional TR teams with egos aside run by a chief in each area.


  5. The Tech Rescue team that has been training for 3 years have not gotten approval solely due to politics.  Everytime they go before the county legislature, Pagano stands up and says no, and they say ok!  The only way we are going to get a Tech Rescue Team is after the next disaster, then the board can ignore the union and give the people of this county what they should have been given 2 years ago.  

    The only way that the County Board of Legislature will ever take the volunteer service seriously is when we have become a unified organization that they fear more than the unions

    It is really unfortunate that we cannot work together.

    I agree with bmfd231. Unless the Vol. service in Westchester bands together and approches the County Legislature as one voice they won't listen to us. As a block we make up a greater number fo voters than Pagano has. Many of our members are members of the Teamsters, craft unions etc. Put it all together and its a much greater block of voters. Thats how the elected officials need to see it.


  6. Was cruisin' the streets of Briarcliff the other day when I saw a PD cruiser coming towards me. It wasn't a local, I could tell because it was a Malibu, not a CV. The driver flagged me down and at first glance I couldn't recognize what agency it was from. Then I saw the shield and realized it was an NYSP car with a new paint scheme!

    All I can say is UUUUUGLY!!

    Thought your days of bing stopped by the police were long gone.


  7. I thnk on eof the main points, it should not be a popularity contest to be voted as an officer. All too many times it is. Once elected or appointed to a Lt. position that officer should get the required training if he/she wants to continue as an officer. In addition communication skills which is something the FTC does not do should be a big consideration. I've seen officers who many would consider socially retarded because they cannot hold a conversation and have no clue how to get people to follow. In addition officers should have at least 5 years in the department before becoming an officer.