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In 94 they played Washington in round 2. Then it was the Devils in round 3. it looks like the Devils are there hope the Blueshirts can make it. I;m still not sold on them yet and i'm a died in the wool RANGER fan. By the way I also thought there was no way the Giants would make or win the Super Bowl so I hope i"m wromg yet again.

Potvin sucks!!!!

Yes it sure was.

Having dealt with OSHA following an industrial accident, how the heck is this permitted? I see the guys sometimes standing on the lip of the hopper, holding on to what looks like a hydraulic line. This is while the truck is in traffic, too.

I can't believe OSHA is really okay with this. Must be a through-the-cracks type deal.

I have worked on a garbage truck for several years and we (CSEA) pushed for satelite trucks to ride in when traveling longer distances during our routes. All our trucks are Leach packers and all have warning stickers saying do not ride on step when traveling over 10 mph or traveling longer than 2 tenths of a mile or when vehical is moving in reverse. We(CSEA) stopped the practice of riding on the back lip of the hopper several years ago. The bar you see them holding onto is a bar that keeps the dumpsters from falling inside the hopper not a hydraulic line.

I met Sr. at the airport in Indianapolis after his appearance at FDIC. I talked to him while we went through airport security, he was very pleasant, no attitude at all. As for Jr. watch the episode when he fires Odie, talking back to the boss and being disrespectful was the reason. Pretty much the same reason Sr. was always yelling at him. Coming in late, two hour lunches, yelling at the boss, sounds like a spoiled kid to me.

I knew him well. Great guy. My wife taught him at HHS. He will be missed by many. RIP Joe.

Engine 45

The 5th man on the back step of Engine 45. A silent protest, or a sense of humor?

What do the numbers under the hose in the bed mean?

Thanks for posting this. This was my very first job with Irvington FD. Thats the old E179 with the reel of our 4 inch supply. We were called mostly for water supply then we went in to pull ceilings.

pm me your email and i'll send you some of my pics of our 2009 8 man cab.

how old is to old to take these kind of test?

What is it and what does it do? Please forgive my ignorance.

Same problem different scenario?

Does anyone see a problem if a department takes 75 percent of its apparatus and 60 to 75 percent of its interior qualified firefighters a few miles out of the district to go to the training center for three hours of training? Are we also leaving our district understaffed/undermanned?

BTW- this is in no way defending understaffing a community for parades.

Just like to hear what others think.

1960's - Scarsdale Fire Department - Popham Road / Post Road firehouse.

NICE!! Looks like a couple of california chop tops!!

With a confirmed jumper where emergency services are immediately contacted, at what point do we determine it is a recovery and not a rescue? People have jumped from the Tappan Zee Bridge and survived. Are the chances slim, yes. You say that you would risk the equipment and personnel for a plane crash but not a jumper because who survives a 160 foot plunge into frigid water... but how many people survive when a commercial plane crashes? It was dubbed the "Miracle on the Hudson" because it was a miracle that there were survivors... fortunately everyone survived that day. But are your chances of surviving a plane crash slim, yes they are.

Immediately contacted? Do you call State police, Rockland, Westchester, Tarrytown, Nyack, Irvington, Piermont, Sleepy Hollow, Ossining. Many calls are redirected from state to control to local departments and not always immedatley. Yes people have survived but most who go from the super structure do not. Some have jumped from the much lower rockland side also. Resources from Rockland were able to board the thruway tug and effect a recovery, which in my oppinion was the right call.

Yes, some of the first responders to the "Miracle on the Hudson" were in fact the NY Waterways Ferrys... but you can't compare the boat traffic in the NYC stretch of the Hudson River to the boat traffic as you continue north on the Hudson River. You mentioned utilizing these Ferry's until better trained and equipped personnel arrive, but once again we're talking about using another outside resource to do the work for us until we get up to speed.

I can't disagree with you on the need to get up to speed. One big problem on the water is defining one's paritcular respone area. Usualy the first department to sign on is the lead agency. As for the ferries they run from Ossining to Manhattan daily. Until money is spent and a better plan is in place I would try to use what ever I had at my disposal.

Hundreds of jumpers? There have been hundreds of jumpers off the Tappan Zee Bridge since the 1980's? According to the New York State Thruway Authority 25 people have committed suicide on the Bridge from 1998 to 2008, the Journal News reports it at 40 people. So either hundreds of people have jumped and the overwhelming majority survived, which would dispel the statement that no one survives the jump, or your claim of hundreds of jumpers is a little far-fetched.

I don't have exact numbers but 25 a decade x almost 30 years of service is pretty close, and that does not include plenty of false jumper claims.

"How is a single boat with a couple of firefighters on it going to handle a large scale river emergency such as a larger commuter plane down in the water? You talk about risk/benefit, what are the risks involved with sending out an inadequate amount of personnel to handle a large scale incident? If the Irvington boat couldn't get out for a lone jumper because of ice at the launch site, how would that same boat get out if it was a larger scale incident?"

I'm not saying that one boat with a few divers is going to save an entire plane load of people. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe some of the first responders to "The Miracle on the Hudson" were infact NY waterway ferry boats no? The run up and down the river all the time, why not utilize them until better tarined and equiped reinforcements arrive. As for not getting the boat out because of ice, I would not want to risk hull, engine, prop damage that may take my boat out of service for quite a while to recover a suicide victim (see below for the facts), I would risk those same problems for a plane load of people. I would like to think that all departments who were called would have made a stronger effort to respond if this was in fact a plane crash.

"Since when is it our job to place a value on a persons life who decided to jump from the Tappan Zee Bridge? How is a plane loaded with passengers worth more of a risk over a jumper? If you're not comfortable risking the lives of people and equipment because someone suffering some form of emotional distress decided to jump into the Hudson, perhaps you need to re-think why you are involved in emergency services."

In this situation most jumpers do not survive a 160+ foot fall into 40 degree water. I'm not saying a person with emotional problems is not worth saving. The fact is this was a recovery not a rescue. How would you tell the family of a brother or sister that you cost somebody there life to recover a deceased person? A plane loaded with people is much different, there might be some survivors and therefore worth taking more of a risk. Irvington's water rescue team has been in service since the early 80's and have responded to hundreds of jumpers. In this case I belive the right call was made in regards to risk/benefit.

"Individuals have been pulled from ice-cold water an hour after submersion and have had positive outcomes with a full and complete recovery. Hypothermia can be our friend."

There is a big difference between drowning in cold water and jumping from 160+ feet and hitting the ice breaker on the north side of the bridge.

How can you say that every department will get their boats out for an emergency on the river when most of the boats are winterized and out of the water? How long will it take to refuel, flush lines, remove shrink-wrap, etc.? I agree that everyone would want to get their boats out but if it's not possible today for the jumper, what suddenly makes it possible for the plane crash tomorrow?

As stated above, NYPD will respond to assist but it's not their responsibility to take care of our jumpers down (they have enough of their own). Air-sea rescue is just that, for rescue, so once it becomes a recovery we still need someone to get a boat in the water.

Bottom line, we're not ready and we really should be.

Irvington's boat is not winterized, it is on it's trailer and in service.The reason they did not respond was to much ice at the launch site. The biggest difference in the two scenarios come down to risk/bennefit. A plane loaded with pasengers is worth more of a risk than a lone jumper who has been in the water (about 40degrees) for twenty minutes or more. I for one would not be comfortable risking the lives of several well qualified people and equipment in those conditions to recover the body of someone who decided that there life wasn't worth much in the first place.

Just my two cents!!!!!

Yes I would. I don't have one now but when I did nobody seemed to care anyway!

I work for the town (southern westchester) that I grew up in and my mom still lives in.

I live 20+ mile from town but make all the training and meetings that I can!

Since I moved to my home (northern westchester) I don't accumulate enough points to earn my credits anyway!

Would I have become a garbage man if there was no pension, "HIGHLY DOUBT IT"

Simply amazing, I am in awe of your talent and eye for detail. I would suggest you submit some of these (2nd & 3rd pics) to some outdoor photography magazines.

Great shots!

The Tarrytown Ward, I've never seen that before! That is really cool......is that newly re-aqqquired....what's the scoop?

T-town old 77 (1974) was replaced by the current 77 ( 94? E-one ). I think the company memebers purchased it and worked on the refurb themselves. One

of the best sounding rigs (straight pipes no muffler).

As a RANGER fan I'm happy to hear this news (listened to him on 1050 this afternoon). He was a class act much like that guy from Jersey(can't think of his name,#30, play some goal, won a few games, maybe even a stanley cup).

It is an annual parade but they have not held it the last couple of years (not sure why).

I keep an old set of turnout gear with the inside lining removed.

Exelent photos!! Could you tell us what some of the camera setting used.