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How about, what are the roles of a VAC officer? If it is just to push paper then there is no reason for the training. PCR review can easily be delegated to an EMT. Now if your VAC officer is going to functioning like a counterpart in fire or PD then an EMT card is just the beginning of what they should be required to have. Which agencies require more than just an EMT card? If you're going to be managing the medical branch of an MCI, your EMT card and few years of teching are not going to cut it.

That photo is from the dealer. Delivery is set to begin sometime in April with 3 a week until the order is complete. A week or two after delivery they should start hitting the road.

That photo is from the dealer. Delivery is set to begin sometime in April with 3 a week until the order is complete. A week or two after delivery they should start hitting the road.

That photo is from the dealer. Delivery is set to begin sometime in April with 3 a week until the order is complete. A week or two after delivery they should start hitting the road.

No one is saying NYC has the monopoly on tragedy. The question is, how would Westchester do? Last week there were 60 patients after 2 buses and a motorcycle collided in the Lincoln tunnel. Between the Ct commuter buses, beeline, private charters, the discount buses, and then all the long distance bus lines this is a very real potential on Westchetser's highways. Unless this happens close to where FDNY would be accidentally dispatched help from the city can take a while.
Every time there's a major incident that has a strong potential for occurring in Westchester the same question comes up... "What would happen here?" Every time its the same results. The southern paid depts have all hazard plans, have drilled various major emergency scenarios, and have a scalable response matrix. No one else has a real MCI plan. I've participated in the airport drill once and watched the last one. Westchester does not have a functional major MCI plan.

Wasn't there a recent MCI on the highway in the Sound Shore area? How long would it take Westchester to mobilize 10 transporting units?
Luckily available units are not hard to come by in the North Bronx early on a Saturday morning. On a Monday afternoon when jobs are already holding it'd be a very different nightmare.

Posts such as this one lead me to believe we should be paying teachers even more !

At what point do you stop throwing good money after bad?
In the case of many inner-city public schools, it's not a lack of funding or incompetent teachers that result in a failing school system. Its often because the students themselves lack a supportive family structure or any kind of discipline at home. The parent (or grandparent) can't cope with what these students face outside of the home. The school system is accused by media demagogues of being inadequate, racist, or worse. But lack of funding is not really where the root of the problem lies. It's an almost total lack of accountability at every level: the students, the parents, and the school administration.
A case in point: Mark Zuckerberg, the Facebook wunderkind, announced that he was donating $100 million to Newark city schools. Now, we can all easily conjure up the popular images of life in one of America's worst cities. However, the City of Newark already spends $22,000 per student. The average per student spending in the State of New Jersey (including all of those "rich" districts) is only about $16,000. Zuckerberg's money could have done a lot more good to a lot more people if he had given it to the Salvation Army or even a local college, for example. In a corrupt, patronizing, inefficient system like the one in Newark, that money will just disappear without a ripple.
And yes, Catholic School teachers make a lot less than Public School teachers, so much less that I wonder why they take the jobs. But when you look at the Administrative level, it's usually one or two iron-fisted priests (or nuns) that run it all, rather than a plethora of "Education Professionals."
I am a proud product of the Yonkers Public School system. From the southwest side, I might add. That included attendance at PS-3 (gone), Hawthorne JHS, and Saunders and Yonkers High Schools. All "inner city" schools. I believe I got an excellent education. I was fortunate enough to complete my public education (and leave Yonkers) before the clueless do-gooder Federal judge Lenny Sands destroyed the entire system through mandated bussing and widespread low-income housing, and by appointing race-baiting hack lawyers "oversee" the Board of Education. This just spread the indifference through the entire city like a cancer, and put Yonkers real estate values in the toilet for a while. I'll give Zuckerberg credit. he undoubtedly believes that he's doing the right thing, and put his money where his mouth is. It's ashame that his generous gift will be squandered. So, to hairbag Michael Moore and the rest of the Hollywood Apparatchiks, I say you do the same. You spend YOUR money. Leave mine alone.
Take the last paragraph any way you want. But facts are facts.

So, By your thinking, without my union, the NYC PBA, since 1998 I would have gotten only about a 4% pay increase in the last 13 years. When times were good and the money was flowing on Wall Street, the City of New York had the balls to tell cops and firefighters "sorry, we have no money for pay raises", but I remember Mayor Giuliani giving himself close to a 50% pay increase saying " We need to attract the best possible candidates". Sounds good to me, NOT. My Union tried to negotiate every two years, and the city would drag its feet every time, with the city refusing to negotiate. Every contract ended up in binding arbitration (which could go either way, in fact that was the reason for the $25,000 starting pay a couple of years ago). Even after 9/11 with public support for cops and firefighters at an all time high the city told us to go scratch.. they had no money. How about getting rid of the politicians pension, which they get after one term in office, or their health care, which is better than ours. PS my union provides my dental and eye care, not my employer.
Without my union I would have to re-qualify on weapons my job requires me to carry on my own time (a day off), but I would have to stay for the whole day, not when I am finished.
Without my union, I could be judged, and actions taken against me for lack of summons/arrest activity (quota bill)
Without my union I would have no recourse to complain about substandard conditions we are forced to work in. Ever been in a NYC police precinct, most are falling apart.
Without my union I would have no legal representation for actions taken at work, even if I did nothing wrong in the course of my employment.
I could go on an on. So why is my union a bad thing.

Now that the republican senators have used the so-called nuclear option, unless it is overturned in court, once passed by the House and signed it'll become law in Wisconsin. And it'll stay that way unless in the next election cycle, the people vote out the republicans who supported this bill and repeal it.
I think it will happen.
According to polls, the people of Wisconsin strongly oppose certain parts of the bill which they feel are an encroachment on civil rights of workers in the state. Governor Walker has done an admirable job of polarizing his state and for that he'll most likely become an icon for republicans and conservatives for years to come.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...117472988.html
While the public workers may be down, they are definitely not out. I suspect it'll become the 1930's again in Wisconsin labor-wise; in some aspects I think it'll be good since many unionists know very little or nothing about unions in general and the sacrifices made back in the day when they fought street battles with management and company hired security hacks.Tthis is a wake up call to not only public employees but also those in the private sector who think they are immune from what took place in Wisconsin. Furthermore, fire and police will not be immune from future attacks on their unions; indeed Ohio, Indiana and New Jersey are contemplating changes in labor regarding the public sector in their respective states.
Make no bones about it, the public and private sector unions in other states are next on the republican's hit list. After all, the Republican Party owes its soul to the US Chamber of Commerce and Tea Party, so hopefully it'll galvanize everyone from both the private and public sectors to band together as brothers and sisters with a common bond to work to vote out the governor and every republican of either house who supported this bill.
Tonight, after it was announced that the republican senate in Wisconsin had passed the bill by 18-1, five of my co-workers, all staunch republicans revealed to us that they are so embarrassed by what their party did in Wisconsin, they plan on leaving the party and registering as independents.
I look forward with extreme enthusiasm to the next two years. I honestly believe that the Republicans have awakened a sleeping bear.

Because in exchange for pay raises and other perks the people in these positions chose pension benefits. Traditionally public employees took less cash up front in favor of better benefits. Still today, private school teachers kill public school teachers in their paychecks. The municipalities made these deals and knew the math going into it. When you buy a house, you know what the mortgage is going to be. If ten years down the road you realize you aren't happy with the deal you can't just call the bank and say sorry I'm keeping the house, go screw. You lose the house and your credit rating. For every fat slob sanit worker getting paid to sleep I can find you a fat slob cop emt or firefighter not pulling their weight too. While were at, every day we pay firefighters to sleep in a warm not so comfy (unless you're staying in Casa de Nechis with the matching cutain/bedding combo) bed. We're also paying teachers to only work 7 months a year. But anyone who really knows and understands these jobs and what the real compensation works out to knows that these pensions are worth every penny. Hell I got paid for 7 hours of OT last night to watch "Married with Children" and sleep. Didn't do a single call. I'll go line up to give my pension back too. Then I'll go join my cousin who's first job out of college at Morgan Stanley is paying more than I'll make at top pay. He's working so hard forwarding e-mail and retyping memos for 4 hours a day. Or I could go back to my degree and return to quality control sampling supervisor at Wyeth Pharmaceuticals. 70k to start just for micro pipetting and labeling at the most 5 hours a day.
Myself and just about every other municipal employee didn't pick these careers to get rich. We chose them for long term stability. Paying some idiot 70k because his thumb works and he can read is where money is being wasted. Paying another idiot (I love my cousin but he's dumb) 60k to read and type is still more waste. All this bullshit is paid for by us. The same taxpaying bums funding the pensions are paying for over priced pharmaceuticals and all of Wall Streets largess.
Please excuse this post if its a little tough to read, but I'm doing back to back to back doubles because I only take home 48% of my check after taxes, health insurance, pension, union, 457 retirement plan, and my metrocard. Out of that I have to pay more for my little one bedroom, nearly double the electric rate, 10% more for food and 10 to 20 cents more per gallon for gas all for the privilege of living amongst New York's most elite... in Washington Heights. I'm sorry if my pension has caused you to lose any sleep 99subi.

Seriously?? OSHA, PESH, 40hr/5 day work week, holidays, health benefits, retirement plans of all types, and just about every other perk enjoyed by both public and private sector employees is the result of a union victory ultimately at the expense of the consumer and taxpayer. Nothing is free, but at time the cost is worth it. You're young so I'm guessing you haven't been involved in a municipal contract negotiation. A few highlights from the emergency service side. We cannot strike, slow down, or perform any other organized job action without massive penalties thanks to the Taylor Law. The TWA got off fairly lightly for their Taylor Law violation and it nearly crippled their local. As a result we have very little leverage with which to force the city to negotiate with us. Our ace (more like a 9 or 10 card) in the hole is binding arbitration. We explain why we need and deserve a raise while the city argues why we don't deserve the raise or that they cannot afford it. Then a mutually agreed upon panel decides and awards the contract. However to get there the city can delay and stall and generally screw with the employees to its hearts content. For example the 5th man staffing on FDNY's engine Cos. The city claims its not negotiated the union claims it is. While the courts decide wether it falls under binding arbitration the city drops the agreement and along with it the 5th man. If at some point the union wins, they get the 5th man back, but not all of the lost wages. During our last contract negotiation the city dragged its feet for over 2 years after our contract expired. Once the economy went south they came running to the bargaining table knowing that no arbitrator would award us more money with the nations economy heading into the toilet.
The Wisconsin legislation doesn't just end collective bargaining, it effectively cripples the union by ending automatic checkoff, requiring regular union re-certification by the members, and turning the state into a "right to work" state. Kill the unions and small things like a secondary emergency egress that the city is paying $7,000 a week in fines to not provide to an EMS station disappear too. After the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire killed nearly 150 workers it wasn't the city or the businesses that got safety standards implemented and changes made. It was the unions, other industries and professionals stepping up and rallying in support of garment workers to force changes.

Seth, most of you're gripes about PDs becoming too distracted with the additional duties of EMS and other specialties are staffing issues. The same problem crops up when you give all these roles to FDs. You need the manpower to do the job.

Seriously?? OSHA, PESH, 40hr/5 day work week, holidays, health benefits, retirement plans of all types, and just about every other perk enjoyed by both public and private sector employees is the result of a union victory ultimately at the expense of the consumer and taxpayer. Nothing is free, but at time the cost is worth it. You're young so I'm guessing you haven't been involved in a municipal contract negotiation. A few highlights from the emergency service side. We cannot strike, slow down, or perform any other organized job action without massive penalties thanks to the Taylor Law. The TWA got off fairly lightly for their Taylor Law violation and it nearly crippled their local. As a result we have very little leverage with which to force the city to negotiate with us. Our ace (more like a 9 or 10 card) in the hole is binding arbitration. We explain why we need and deserve a raise while the city argues why we don't deserve the raise or that they cannot afford it. Then a mutually agreed upon panel decides and awards the contract. However to get there the city can delay and stall and generally screw with the employees to its hearts content. For example the 5th man staffing on FDNY's engine Cos. The city claims its not negotiated the union claims it is. While the courts decide wether it falls under binding arbitration the city drops the agreement and along with it the 5th man. If at some point the union wins, they get the 5th man back, but not all of the lost wages. During our last contract negotiation the city dragged its feet for over 2 years after our contract expired. Once the economy went south they came running to the bargaining table knowing that no arbitrator would award us more money with the nations economy heading into the toilet.
The Wisconsin legislation doesn't just end collective bargaining, it effectively cripples the union by ending automatic checkoff, requiring regular union re-certification by the members, and turning the state into a "right to work" state. Kill the unions and small things like a secondary emergency egress that the city is paying $7,000 a week in fines to not provide to an EMS station disappear too. After the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire killed nearly 150 workers it wasn't the city or the businesses that got safety standards implemented and changes made. It was the unions, other industries and professionals stepping up and rallying in support of garment workers to force changes.

Because in exchange for pay raises and other perks the people in these positions chose pension benefits. Traditionally public employees took less cash up front in favor of better benefits. Still today, private school teachers kill public school teachers in their paychecks. The municipalities made these deals and knew the math going into it. When you buy a house, you know what the mortgage is going to be. If ten years down the road you realize you aren't happy with the deal you can't just call the bank and say sorry I'm keeping the house, go screw. You lose the house and your credit rating. For every fat slob sanit worker getting paid to sleep I can find you a fat slob cop emt or firefighter not pulling their weight too. While were at, every day we pay firefighters to sleep in a warm not so comfy (unless you're staying in Casa de Nechis with the matching cutain/bedding combo) bed. We're also paying teachers to only work 7 months a year. But anyone who really knows and understands these jobs and what the real compensation works out to knows that these pensions are worth every penny. Hell I got paid for 7 hours of OT last night to watch "Married with Children" and sleep. Didn't do a single call. I'll go line up to give my pension back too. Then I'll go join my cousin who's first job out of college at Morgan Stanley is paying more than I'll make at top pay. He's working so hard forwarding e-mail and retyping memos for 4 hours a day. Or I could go back to my degree and return to quality control sampling supervisor at Wyeth Pharmaceuticals. 70k to start just for micro pipetting and labeling at the most 5 hours a day.
Myself and just about every other municipal employee didn't pick these careers to get rich. We chose them for long term stability. Paying some idiot 70k because his thumb works and he can read is where money is being wasted. Paying another idiot (I love my cousin but he's dumb) 60k to read and type is still more waste. All this bullshit is paid for by us. The same taxpaying bums funding the pensions are paying for over priced pharmaceuticals and all of Wall Streets largess.
Please excuse this post if its a little tough to read, but I'm doing back to back to back doubles because I only take home 48% of my check after taxes, health insurance, pension, union, 457 retirement plan, and my metrocard. Out of that I have to pay more for my little one bedroom, nearly double the electric rate, 10% more for food and 10 to 20 cents more per gallon for gas all for the privilege of living amongst New York's most elite... in Washington Heights. I'm sorry if my pension has caused you to lose any sleep 99subi.

Seriously?? OSHA, PESH, 40hr/5 day work week, holidays, health benefits, retirement plans of all types, and just about every other perk enjoyed by both public and private sector employees is the result of a union victory ultimately at the expense of the consumer and taxpayer. Nothing is free, but at time the cost is worth it. You're young so I'm guessing you haven't been involved in a municipal contract negotiation. A few highlights from the emergency service side. We cannot strike, slow down, or perform any other organized job action without massive penalties thanks to the Taylor Law. The TWA got off fairly lightly for their Taylor Law violation and it nearly crippled their local. As a result we have very little leverage with which to force the city to negotiate with us. Our ace (more like a 9 or 10 card) in the hole is binding arbitration. We explain why we need and deserve a raise while the city argues why we don't deserve the raise or that they cannot afford it. Then a mutually agreed upon panel decides and awards the contract. However to get there the city can delay and stall and generally screw with the employees to its hearts content. For example the 5th man staffing on FDNY's engine Cos. The city claims its not negotiated the union claims it is. While the courts decide wether it falls under binding arbitration the city drops the agreement and along with it the 5th man. If at some point the union wins, they get the 5th man back, but not all of the lost wages. During our last contract negotiation the city dragged its feet for over 2 years after our contract expired. Once the economy went south they came running to the bargaining table knowing that no arbitrator would award us more money with the nations economy heading into the toilet.
The Wisconsin legislation doesn't just end collective bargaining, it effectively cripples the union by ending automatic checkoff, requiring regular union re-certification by the members, and turning the state into a "right to work" state. Kill the unions and small things like a secondary emergency egress that the city is paying $7,000 a week in fines to not provide to an EMS station disappear too. After the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire killed nearly 150 workers it wasn't the city or the businesses that got safety standards implemented and changes made. It was the unions, other industries and professionals stepping up and rallying in support of garment workers to force changes.

Seriously?? OSHA, PESH, 40hr/5 day work week, holidays, health benefits, retirement plans of all types, and just about every other perk enjoyed by both public and private sector employees is the result of a union victory ultimately at the expense of the consumer and taxpayer. Nothing is free, but at time the cost is worth it. You're young so I'm guessing you haven't been involved in a municipal contract negotiation. A few highlights from the emergency service side. We cannot strike, slow down, or perform any other organized job action without massive penalties thanks to the Taylor Law. The TWA got off fairly lightly for their Taylor Law violation and it nearly crippled their local. As a result we have very little leverage with which to force the city to negotiate with us. Our ace (more like a 9 or 10 card) in the hole is binding arbitration. We explain why we need and deserve a raise while the city argues why we don't deserve the raise or that they cannot afford it. Then a mutually agreed upon panel decides and awards the contract. However to get there the city can delay and stall and generally screw with the employees to its hearts content. For example the 5th man staffing on FDNY's engine Cos. The city claims its not negotiated the union claims it is. While the courts decide wether it falls under binding arbitration the city drops the agreement and along with it the 5th man. If at some point the union wins, they get the 5th man back, but not all of the lost wages. During our last contract negotiation the city dragged its feet for over 2 years after our contract expired. Once the economy went south they came running to the bargaining table knowing that no arbitrator would award us more money with the nations economy heading into the toilet.
The Wisconsin legislation doesn't just end collective bargaining, it effectively cripples the union by ending automatic checkoff, requiring regular union re-certification by the members, and turning the state into a "right to work" state. Kill the unions and small things like a secondary emergency egress that the city is paying $7,000 a week in fines to not provide to an EMS station disappear too. After the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire killed nearly 150 workers it wasn't the city or the businesses that got safety standards implemented and changes made. It was the unions, other industries and professionals stepping up and rallying in support of garment workers to force changes.

Because in exchange for pay raises and other perks the people in these positions chose pension benefits. Traditionally public employees took less cash up front in favor of better benefits. Still today, private school teachers kill public school teachers in their paychecks. The municipalities made these deals and knew the math going into it. When you buy a house, you know what the mortgage is going to be. If ten years down the road you realize you aren't happy with the deal you can't just call the bank and say sorry I'm keeping the house, go screw. You lose the house and your credit rating. For every fat slob sanit worker getting paid to sleep I can find you a fat slob cop emt or firefighter not pulling their weight too. While were at, every day we pay firefighters to sleep in a warm not so comfy (unless you're staying in Casa de Nechis with the matching cutain/bedding combo) bed. We're also paying teachers to only work 7 months a year. But anyone who really knows and understands these jobs and what the real compensation works out to knows that these pensions are worth every penny. Hell I got paid for 7 hours of OT last night to watch "Married with Children" and sleep. Didn't do a single call. I'll go line up to give my pension back too. Then I'll go join my cousin who's first job out of college at Morgan Stanley is paying more than I'll make at top pay. He's working so hard forwarding e-mail and retyping memos for 4 hours a day. Or I could go back to my degree and return to quality control sampling supervisor at Wyeth Pharmaceuticals. 70k to start just for micro pipetting and labeling at the most 5 hours a day.
Myself and just about every other municipal employee didn't pick these careers to get rich. We chose them for long term stability. Paying some idiot 70k because his thumb works and he can read is where money is being wasted. Paying another idiot (I love my cousin but he's dumb) 60k to read and type is still more waste. All this bullshit is paid for by us. The same taxpaying bums funding the pensions are paying for over priced pharmaceuticals and all of Wall Streets largess.
Please excuse this post if its a little tough to read, but I'm doing back to back to back doubles because I only take home 48% of my check after taxes, health insurance, pension, union, 457 retirement plan, and my metrocard. Out of that I have to pay more for my little one bedroom, nearly double the electric rate, 10% more for food and 10 to 20 cents more per gallon for gas all for the privilege of living amongst New York's most elite... in Washington Heights. I'm sorry if my pension has caused you to lose any sleep 99subi.

I'm pretty close to a bleeding hart liberal, and even I can't deal with Moore any further. I saw this story a day or two ago and I just can't get up the desire to read it. That being said, if American's spent an additional 2% on household items to buy American made products we'd create 200,000 more jobs. Republican and Democratic economic theory du jour all agree that creating jobs and spending money is good. 200,000 more people at work paying taxes and not receiving handouts has a much broader impact beyond the initial 200,000 jobs. How about people start there?? But then again the sale at WallMart saves me 50 cents on my milk and only costs me $12 in gas.

Let's see judging by your age (21-24) you just paid your taxes and feel you're being screwed. It's not by us, my friend. We pay taxes too. Whatever you do for a living, the Taylor Law is pretty good reading for your lunch hour.

Because in exchange for pay raises and other perks the people in these positions chose pension benefits. Traditionally public employees took less cash up front in favor of better benefits. Still today, private school teachers kill public school teachers in their paychecks. The municipalities made these deals and knew the math going into it. When you buy a house, you know what the mortgage is going to be. If ten years down the road you realize you aren't happy with the deal you can't just call the bank and say sorry I'm keeping the house, go screw. You lose the house and your credit rating. For every fat slob sanit worker getting paid to sleep I can find you a fat slob cop emt or firefighter not pulling their weight too. While were at, every day we pay firefighters to sleep in a warm not so comfy (unless you're staying in Casa de Nechis with the matching cutain/bedding combo) bed. We're also paying teachers to only work 7 months a year. But anyone who really knows and understands these jobs and what the real compensation works out to knows that these pensions are worth every penny. Hell I got paid for 7 hours of OT last night to watch "Married with Children" and sleep. Didn't do a single call. I'll go line up to give my pension back too. Then I'll go join my cousin who's first job out of college at Morgan Stanley is paying more than I'll make at top pay. He's working so hard forwarding e-mail and retyping memos for 4 hours a day. Or I could go back to my degree and return to quality control sampling supervisor at Wyeth Pharmaceuticals. 70k to start just for micro pipetting and labeling at the most 5 hours a day.
Myself and just about every other municipal employee didn't pick these careers to get rich. We chose them for long term stability. Paying some idiot 70k because his thumb works and he can read is where money is being wasted. Paying another idiot (I love my cousin but he's dumb) 60k to read and type is still more waste. All this bullshit is paid for by us. The same taxpaying bums funding the pensions are paying for over priced pharmaceuticals and all of Wall Streets largess.
Please excuse this post if its a little tough to read, but I'm doing back to back to back doubles because I only take home 48% of my check after taxes, health insurance, pension, union, 457 retirement plan, and my metrocard. Out of that I have to pay more for my little one bedroom, nearly double the electric rate, 10% more for food and 10 to 20 cents more per gallon for gas all for the privilege of living amongst New York's most elite... in Washington Heights. I'm sorry if my pension has caused you to lose any sleep 99subi.

What I find interesting is we can cut to the bone American services in the interest of "balancing the budget" but out of that same bank account comes the "foreign aid" which remains uncut. We as a people should demand that the FIRST cut be foreign aid then domestic aid not the other way around. We have people going to sleep hungry and homeless within our own boarders for the sake of providing food and shelter to those in foreign lands. We as a people need to get our priorities in order and take care of our own first or at lease equally to those that we rush to. Watch late night TV and you are guaranteed to to see some actor or actress collecting for kids in some far away land. You don't see them collecting for the homeless kids in LA, the South Bronx, Miami, Detroit, Chicago, etc.
Just my two cents.

How much US money is being sent overseas in foreign aid every year? BILLIONS.
I'm not suggesting we eliminate it but if we reduced it by half and applied that toward programs that are sorely needed within our borders and to reduce the national debt. While I wholeheartedly support our country's support of developing nations, we must protect our own first and that simply isn't happening any more.
The tax code should also be simplified so everyone pays their fair share including the poorest right up to the richest corporations. Tax breaks for special interests are out of control.
Consolidation of duplicate or redundant government agencies needs to become a law. There's a federal and state Education Department but there're also local school districts. Why all three? Why are there so many independent school districts? Almost every one has a superintendent making around 200,000 per year. Why?
America's not broke but the government thinks it can just continue spending without a care in the world.
A balanced budget bill has been introduced in the US Senate. We should all lobby for its passage. How many of us are allowed to run up big deficits without any repercussions?

I never heard of the airbag being called a space case either. Thats always been the patient. I have yet to see a real space case survive to the ER. Once they open up that gap, if the patient was alive they quickly exsanguinate. Man unders on the hand run the gamut. Metro North is very accommodating with training and information. I suggest reaching out to them first.

I'm pretty close to a bleeding hart liberal, and even I can't deal with Moore any further. I saw this story a day or two ago and I just can't get up the desire to read it. That being said, if American's spent an additional 2% on household items to buy American made products we'd create 200,000 more jobs. Republican and Democratic economic theory du jour all agree that creating jobs and spending money is good. 200,000 more people at work paying taxes and not receiving handouts has a much broader impact beyond the initial 200,000 jobs. How about people start there?? But then again the sale at WallMart saves me 50 cents on my milk and only costs me $12 in gas.