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On the same note I'm interested in the consequences of cutting through cylinders that have not deployed. I bet it's happened a lot (unintentionally).

Thanks to the posters here passing on some good practical field knowledge and procedures to follow for the safety of our crews.

There is a video out there from Europe of an accident cylinder cut, I'll have to find it, it basically blew up in their faces if I remember correctly.

When I am working, it is usually one gatorade after my first major sweat of the day and water before and afterwards. It is easy to get bogged down with the mugginess and heat, be careful everyone - and don't lock your knees.

My condolences to all affected by this, RIP.

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I quick read on what seems to be an experienced educators opinion and summation of the whole concept, more food for thought for the topic.

I like what has been said, 5/10/20, appropriate battery isolation, being mindful of drain times. pulling trim, etc. - coupled together should make for a sound way to mitigate the dangers of airbag deployment post crash/incident situations.

An AP article stated this in reference to Dual Stage Airbags...

The system measures the force of a frontal crash and decides whether to set off the air bag's full power or a second stage that's about 70 percent as strong, said GM engineer Jim Khoury. He said tests had found the less powerful stage would be adequate in nearly all crashes while reducing air bag injuries up to 20 percent.

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One member of my department owns and operates a Vehicle Repair/Body Shop. One important thing to remember, is side curtain airbags, he has also stated that there is some sort of airbag in the SEAT? Anyone heard of this. He stated that BEFORE making a relief cut to fold the roof, check under the plastic lining. If i remember correctly, YELLOW is Airbag canister, ORANGE is electric(hybrids). We managed to peel off the plastic liner to check(between A, B, and C posts). Not Sure if you would want to do this, might slice through a wire, or puncture the canister itself.

Opinions please, this is just something we tossed around at a MVA drill

Sorry for the multiple posts, but we have a tendency to look for the symbols, and when in doubt - we pull the trim and look for ourselves. Most vehicles have pretty clear identification as to the location of their airbags, but you never know.

Seat mounted airbags are becoming common as well, I think Volvo and quite a few other companies use it, instead of a roof deployed side curtain airbag. As with anything else, if you are a larger person, or lean on the door, the ones that deploy from the seats can beat up your insides quite a bit, as well as bust your elbow and arm in the process.

Drain times on cars vary depending on a lot of things, I think Ron Moore also talked about a situation where a cellphone plugged into a charger could backfeed its juice into the car, keeping it energized, including the airbags and whatnot.

And refering to the OP, I think most times improper placement, and for some companies, poor testing and faulty products have lead to a general consensus of not trusting these systems. Ditto'ing Captain Glover - I think that if Hurst is marketing something - then they've done the research. All the aforementioned products I think were from various non-leading rescue companies trying to get a niche in the market, nothing from Hurst, Holmatro, etc.etc.

Our 51-11 will be making a stop there, albeit unlettered, but still there in Rosenbauer's spot on the show floor. A few people who have gone in previous years loved going...

As said in topic, 51-11 made a pitstop from the main factory to the Yankee Fire Factory so we could look at it and figure out what we wanted to change and do with it so it could arrive faster to us...

We expect delivery in two weeks roughly...

Naturally there will be court cases that will set the interpretations of each gray area. Give it a year or so...

Hey Sage,

What is holding in the air supply? Is there a metal tank inside, or is it some kind of flexible bladder?

Can you describe the front of the pack? Strap configuration, PASS alarm, etc?

Thanks.

I believe it is high temp proof liner with kevlar and carbon fiber woven into eachother to form the outside. As for the rest I know nothing - that is just what I read in a report Captain.

will this be replacing anything or is it just am add-on?

An additional unit to the fleet..

interesting light bar concept

It was done to save some inches in height...

Ain't no snowstorms gonna stop you guys from getting to the scene. Best of luck with the new engine, and the tanker Josh.

Thanks George, no snowstorms with some of the driveways we have on the mountain!

Looks great Josh, any word when it will be in Millerton so I can come up and take some shots.

Mid-June is the tentative date, but it may be earlier than that Mark...

Rest in Peace Firefighter Liucci.

Another video for the training community. I've heard people try to differentiate and justify SCBA use during a house fire, and its use during a car fire. Smoke from both are just as snotty, there are no reasons not to wear it, the van is obviously a total loss. What is one more minute? We aren't in the business of trading lives to get the job done.

Also Village of Fishkill FAST, Rombout with and engine, and Glenham with a tanker IIRC.

Thanks for posting these. I guess some folks from Milan came across a MVA this year as well.

RIP Captain, we've got the watch.

RIP Captain Iaccino - my thoughts are with the family, blood and firehouse family.

I am hearing the possibility that the axle snapped. Also that they were all belted in, I wish for a speedy recovery for them all!

Folds up just like that, will be more of a 90 degree when we extend the holster piece to allow for a fitting on the one intake behind it.

The next will be more of a quick attack engine, 500 gal, International/Rosenbauer job this time, 4wd.

I like the dump chute idea, I assume it folds back on itself for stowage ?

What engine are you expecting ? Going custom can or commercial ?