Nite Boss

Why I try only comment on Police issues,there is a few things that need to addressed here:
1-Ballistic vests will not protect anyone from a .223cal round as was used in W.Webster
2-Vests serve zero protection from an explosive,and dosen't help with projectiles such as the case in Boston.
3-If there's a need for EMS to wear vests,because of the dangers of the job,than the EMS providers shouldn't be in any area until PD deems it safe.
4-EMS uniforms,are looking like more PD uniform's,especially with all the stitching and back panels,which is not a good idea,and can be unsafe.I have seen people walk up to them on Job's thinking they were the PD. NOT GOOD....
While I'm all for protection of everyone on a scene,I think EMS wearing PPE on calls especially MVA's is probably money better spent,I can telll you from over 30 years on the Job,a vest is not the answer to the problem,bottomline,if it isn't safe,you shouldn't be there.
So,I'm not sure of the justification for buying the vests???

Why I try only comment on Police issues,there is a few things that need to addressed here:
1-Ballistic vests will not protect anyone from a .223cal round as was used in W.Webster
2-Vests serve zero protection from an explosive,and dosen't help with projectiles such as the case in Boston.
3-If there's a need for EMS to wear vests,because of the dangers of the job,than the EMS providers shouldn't be in any area until PD deems it safe.
4-EMS uniforms,are looking like more PD uniform's,especially with all the stitching and back panels,which is not a good idea,and can be unsafe.I have seen people walk up to them on Job's thinking they were the PD. NOT GOOD....
While I'm all for protection of everyone on a scene,I think EMS wearing PPE on calls especially MVA's is probably money better spent,I can telll you from over 30 years on the Job,a vest is not the answer to the problem,bottomline,if it isn't safe,you shouldn't be there.
So,I'm not sure of the justification for buying the vests???

While specialized units are important and needed in this situation,I do feel that again,this is a prime example of why training and adequate manpower are a must.The cop on the street must have the means with training, equipment and adequate manpower to be able to contain a situation.While in the end, an entry team of highly trained and equipped personnel would be able to enter and or control the situation,it's the everyday street cop that is going to make the difference. I fully support the concept of these tactical teams,but until they muster and arrive,it's the patrol cop/s that will be needed to contain the problem,and without theproper training equipment and staffing that makes it impossible.
Post 911, funding was abundant for all sorts of training and equipment,but the powers to be seem to have lost focus on this,show me a job that is staffed better than pre 911,and I would be impressed,I believe most jobs have been cut to the bare bones...

While specialized units are important and needed in this situation,I do feel that again,this is a prime example of why training and adequate manpower are a must.The cop on the street must have the means with training, equipment and adequate manpower to be able to contain a situation.While in the end, an entry team of highly trained and equipped personnel would be able to enter and or control the situation,it's the everyday street cop that is going to make the difference. I fully support the concept of these tactical teams,but until they muster and arrive,it's the patrol cop/s that will be needed to contain the problem,and without theproper training equipment and staffing that makes it impossible.
Post 911, funding was abundant for all sorts of training and equipment,but the powers to be seem to have lost focus on this,show me a job that is staffed better than pre 911,and I would be impressed,I believe most jobs have been cut to the bare bones...

While specialized units are important and needed in this situation,I do feel that again,this is a prime example of why training and adequate manpower are a must.The cop on the street must have the means with training, equipment and adequate manpower to be able to contain a situation.While in the end, an entry team of highly trained and equipped personnel would be able to enter and or control the situation,it's the everyday street cop that is going to make the difference. I fully support the concept of these tactical teams,but until they muster and arrive,it's the patrol cop/s that will be needed to contain the problem,and without theproper training equipment and staffing that makes it impossible.
Post 911, funding was abundant for all sorts of training and equipment,but the powers to be seem to have lost focus on this,show me a job that is staffed better than pre 911,and I would be impressed,I believe most jobs have been cut to the bare bones...

While specialized units are important and needed in this situation,I do feel that again,this is a prime example of why training and adequate manpower are a must.The cop on the street must have the means with training, equipment and adequate manpower to be able to contain a situation.While in the end, an entry team of highly trained and equipped personnel would be able to enter and or control the situation,it's the everyday street cop that is going to make the difference. I fully support the concept of these tactical teams,but until they muster and arrive,it's the patrol cop/s that will be needed to contain the problem,and without theproper training equipment and staffing that makes it impossible.
Post 911, funding was abundant for all sorts of training and equipment,but the powers to be seem to have lost focus on this,show me a job that is staffed better than pre 911,and I would be impressed,I believe most jobs have been cut to the bare bones...

While specialized units are important and needed in this situation,I do feel that again,this is a prime example of why training and adequate manpower are a must.The cop on the street must have the means with training, equipment and adequate manpower to be able to contain a situation.While in the end, an entry team of highly trained and equipped personnel would be able to enter and or control the situation,it's the everyday street cop that is going to make the difference. I fully support the concept of these tactical teams,but until they muster and arrive,it's the patrol cop/s that will be needed to contain the problem,and without theproper training equipment and staffing that makes it impossible.
Post 911, funding was abundant for all sorts of training and equipment,but the powers to be seem to have lost focus on this,show me a job that is staffed better than pre 911,and I would be impressed,I believe most jobs have been cut to the bare bones...

While specialized units are important and needed in this situation,I do feel that again,this is a prime example of why training and adequate manpower are a must.The cop on the street must have the means with training, equipment and adequate manpower to be able to contain a situation.While in the end, an entry team of highly trained and equipped personnel would be able to enter and or control the situation,it's the everyday street cop that is going to make the difference. I fully support the concept of these tactical teams,but until they muster and arrive,it's the patrol cop/s that will be needed to contain the problem,and without theproper training equipment and staffing that makes it impossible.
Post 911, funding was abundant for all sorts of training and equipment,but the powers to be seem to have lost focus on this,show me a job that is staffed better than pre 911,and I would be impressed,I believe most jobs have been cut to the bare bones...

While specialized units are important and needed in this situation,I do feel that again,this is a prime example of why training and adequate manpower are a must.The cop on the street must have the means with training, equipment and adequate manpower to be able to contain a situation.While in the end, an entry team of highly trained and equipped personnel would be able to enter and or control the situation,it's the everyday street cop that is going to make the difference. I fully support the concept of these tactical teams,but until they muster and arrive,it's the patrol cop/s that will be needed to contain the problem,and without theproper training equipment and staffing that makes it impossible.
Post 911, funding was abundant for all sorts of training and equipment,but the powers to be seem to have lost focus on this,show me a job that is staffed better than pre 911,and I would be impressed,I believe most jobs have been cut to the bare bones...

If County PD was the considation answer,than why isn't the powers to be, banging down their door? Why, I do agree there are many small jobs that need to be merged with adjoining jobs,I'm not convinced that County PD is the answer.There are many questions,that need to be answered,such as:
What happens to all the bosses? County PD can only absorb so many,and is it fair to the County Officers sitting on Promtional lists, to take all these bosses?
Some smaller jobs,are actually very busy and house many prisoners on a daily basis,how would that work?
You can't keep taking all the guys from these jobs and absorbing them into WCDPS,so what happens to them?
What about all these PD HQ's? The Town of Ossining is still trying to get rid of their PD building.
While I certainly agree,these small jobs,need to merged into larger one's,still not convinced that DPS is the answer,just because you see more cars on the Pkwy's and Hwy's.
Ask somebody that lives in Vista or some other corner of the County how long at night it takes for a PD to respond.I'm in no way bashing any agency,it's just sad when guys are responding long distances due to short staffing,and solo!
Yes,Consolidation may be the answer,and I agree with it,but on a Department by Department basis,what works in Ossining may not work in Pelham or Port Chester...

If County PD was the considation answer,than why isn't the powers to be, banging down their door? Why, I do agree there are many small jobs that need to be merged with adjoining jobs,I'm not convinced that County PD is the answer.There are many questions,that need to be answered,such as:
What happens to all the bosses? County PD can only absorb so many,and is it fair to the County Officers sitting on Promtional lists, to take all these bosses?
Some smaller jobs,are actually very busy and house many prisoners on a daily basis,how would that work?
You can't keep taking all the guys from these jobs and absorbing them into WCDPS,so what happens to them?
What about all these PD HQ's? The Town of Ossining is still trying to get rid of their PD building.
While I certainly agree,these small jobs,need to merged into larger one's,still not convinced that DPS is the answer,just because you see more cars on the Pkwy's and Hwy's.
Ask somebody that lives in Vista or some other corner of the County how long at night it takes for a PD to respond.I'm in no way bashing any agency,it's just sad when guys are responding long distances due to short staffing,and solo!
Yes,Consolidation may be the answer,and I agree with it,but on a Department by Department basis,what works in Ossining may not work in Pelham or Port Chester...