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On 9/24/2016 at 2:07 PM, vodoly said:

Not that I know  of  Btw Co 1 likes holding on to their pieces  for quite awhile

That is true they do. They did keep the Hahn for what 32 years?

11 hours ago, 21Truck said:

Thanks. I've seen some of the Ferarra's with the full black look and must say they are sharp

Is there any talks of replacing Engine 1? I know the Pierce is also a 98

2 hours ago, vodoly said:

Confirmed it's Co3 similar to Emerson but  The blackened look!!

Thanks. I've seen some of the Ferarra's with the full black look and must say they are sharp

Vodoly, you may know. Saw in Fire Apparatus Magazine that Garfield NJ ordered a Ferrara Engine. Which engine are they replacing? I know Engine 1 and 3 are both 98's so was wondering if you heard anything

The Ellenville truck is indeed a Arrow XT Cab. Last I was told was it will be a quint with a 2000gpm pump and 500 water. If I remember right it is based off the stock 105' quint Pierce makes with some different options

Construction has begun on the long awaited Pierce rear mount ladder for Ellenville (Ulster Co.). Looks like an Arrow XT cab shell.

Recent new deliveries:

Saugerties (Ulster): Pierce Saber top mount pumper

Sparrowbush (Orange): Spartan/Custom Fab & Body 2500 gallon pumper-tanker, which will apparently replace Engine 844, rather than 845 as originally thought.

Hurleyville (Sullivan): International/4Guys 2500 gallon pumper-tanker

The Ellenville vote actually failed 3 times. Every year the department puts money in a separate account towards a vehicle purchase or when they would purchase a truck they had a decent down payment towards it. The last vote failed over a year ago mainly because former members giving bad information and stirring the pot. The current truck is 27 years old. The department finally had enough to purchase the truck without having to go to vote or bid hence why they went right with Pierce. The pumper tanker did decent at vote. The current pumper tanker is 25 years old. All in all I think it's a great thing that they are finally able to make much needed purchases as the ladder was becoming quite costly every year to keep up with repairs

Once again here goes the bashing of Mobile Life. If you are so butthurt over it big deal. Don't come on to a forum and start bad mouthing another agency. When it comes down to it, Mobile Life is a professional agency and has been run like one for years. Hence the expansion and the recognition the agency has. TOWVAC for years has talked about going and becoming a ALS agency. Good for them for finally going ahead and making that happen. They have had quite a bit of ups and downs and if this brings them into a good position for the areas they service then so be it. Is it a huge loss to Mobile Life? Yes it is. The Town of Wallkill is a busy area and will continue to be. But on a serious note, quite coming on to a forum and start bashing a agency because you are butthurt over them. If you have such a issue with Mobile Life, bring it to them directly instead of sitting behind a computer and talking trash. In the end all it does is make you look like a tool and a pot stirrer and seriously if you have the time to sit there at the computer and do that, well then just goes to show what kind of person you are off of here. Yes it is news that people want to hear about i'm sure as Mobile Life has been prominent in Orange County for many years but no one wants to hear someone being a douche and running their mouth about a company

Sounds like some people are butt hurt about this who have nothing to do with the agency. Is it a shame that this happens to a Volunteer agency? Yes it is but they are still receiving ambulance service. The residents of that ambulance district do not care who the ambulance company is as long as one shows up when they are requested. All that is going on right now is speculation as to why they were shut down so really no one has anything to say until it is made public. Maybe everyone forgot a few years ago the careless spending of the agency? Maybe it caught up to them finally. Maybe they were unable to crew more often then not. There has always been issues there. And it's not just them but it happens to every agency, Fire and EMS. So instead of poking around and saying back door deals of who is the ambulance company serving Chester or speculating what happened, why don't people just wait until it is made public and get the true story. All it does is stir the pot for no reason because some people feel the need to just start issues without knowing facts

speaking of bergen county tillers...does anyone have pictures of Garfield's Maxim tiller before it was replaced due to an accident?

I'm looking for info on what requirements as far as tools go for a truck to be classified as a rescue in NYS. I have an agency running a truck with equipment that is damaged and unsafe and personnel non trained and like to know what equipment they need to carry to be called a rescue

Spring Valley has ordered a 95 Ft Tower Ladder from ALF, expecting delivery in June.

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does that mean they are replacing that ugly a** metz ladder they have now?

I don't know how the NYC system runs but from an EMS standpoint it does look like some sort of system because the numbers and colors coinside witht he start triage system

For all of you waiting to see pics of Thornwood's new engine, Pierce has a picture of it under new deliveries. All i'm gonna say is damn what a nice truck

My volly squad recently bought new ferno stretchers. I believe they are the 93p model but I'm not positive. They are heavy duty and can carry patients I believe over 650 lbs. They also come with the LBS plates for the "bigger" patients and have actually held up well. The only down side to them is the doorway needs to be wide enoguh for the stretcher to go through with the LBS plates on. If not it becomes useless to use. But the stretchers are good. I've also used the stryker model stretchers and while they are heavy duty they are also alot heavier to handle then the Ferno's

Nice site. The only thing I didn't really like was that there was really no pics of the trucks from the other 3 companies other then Hopewell since they have their own page. And since it sounds like a lot of the guys from East Fishkill work at the Mobil I was wondering if your able to leave for calls since you can almost say its a family business

The new Seagrave rescue pumper in Port Jervis (Orange Co.) recently seen in Spy Shots on here....that was rumored to have cost somewhere in the $650k range, and is said to be the most expensive pumper Seagrave has ever built.  Quite scary, considering a mere nine years ago, a Pierce tower ladder cost about that much. 

For that kind of price tag, I'd say they'll have themselves one nice piece when it's done.

Andy I believe that the Port Jervis Rescue Pumper was $601,000 only because it came with equipment on it. I even heard a rumor they were buying green 5 inch hose to go with it

So are you saying we can do a mail order because I won't be making out for the wetdown..haha and any pics of the shirts?

Date: 8-24-05

Time: 1400hrs

Location: 400 Granite Rd. X Route 44/55 "Hudson Valley Resort"

Frequency:

Units Operating: Kerhonkson, Accord, Pine Bush, Granite, New Paltz, Ellenville, Bloomington, Modena 

Description Of Incident: Fire on roof of a 7-story hotel on resort.

Writer: Truck4

The call was in the Accord fire district. I don't have specifics right now because i got there late but I believe the building is condemened with some heavy damage. They said an I beam is bent to s***. There was a lot of mutual aid with this call. I'll try to list what I know responded

Accord- All equipment I believe

Kerhonkson- 1 pumper/tanker and i believe one engine

Napanoch- 1 pumper/tanker, 1 rescue

Ellenville- 1 ladder, 1 rescue, 1 engine, 1 tanker

Cragsmoor- 1 engine I believe to stand by ellenville

Walker Valley- 1 truck to stand by cragsmoor

Kripllebush- 1 tanker, unknown if anything else

Stone Ridge- 1 engine to stand by, 1 tanker

Hurley- 1 engine with manpower

Ulster Hose- 1 rescue with manpower

Gardiner- 1 engine to stand by

Modena- 1 engine with manpower

New Paltz- 1 engine with manpower

West Hurley- Relocate for standby

Olive company 4- standby

High Falls- 1 engine/tanker

I don't know if anyone else was called. A lot of the trucks that responded were used to transport manpower.

What is in your departments hydrant bag?

hydrant wrench, 2 sets of spanners, one 3 inch gated wye, 5 inch storz adapter

There will always be some controversy as to who is more qualified to do rescue work. I think the answer lies in what is the best for the community in which you serve. For example, my EMS squad used to do rescue work. However, the 3 fire districts which my EMS squad serves also does rescue. Because it was pretty much overkill to have 4 emergency service entities doing the exact same thing, we dropped the rescue and now let the appropriate fire company handle that aspect of the call. If an EMS squad can handle the rescue end of things and the FD doesn't have a rescue truck, then I think the EMS squad should do rescue. If the FD has a rescue truck and tools, then I think FD should do rescue. It all comes down to which can serve the most effieciently in the respective area.

Yea we have controversy with the one dept here. the whole thing was the squad used to do all the extrication work for years until the one FD wanted it. Squad agreed on it if 6 members became EMTS which they did. The squad has since been sort of a backup unit and is seldome used and people are seldom trained which no matter how hard i push for it no one wants to do it but they refuse to get rid of them or the truck. Each dept in the ambulance district has them and the truck hardly rolls yet they still want them and they sit idle forever. I gave up trying because no one wants to bother. I think it could work nicely to do ajoint team with the fd to assist thema s long as the medical side is covered

What are people's opinions on this. SHould a squad do just ems and transports whether is a BLS or an ALS squad or should they also do rescue like Extrication, Rope teams and Dive teams? My squad currently runs 3 ambulances, a small rescue and a paramedic fly car and are always fighting with the fire dept about doing rescue work.

I'm starting the Paramedic class on Monday and wondering if anyone has any advice that I can use. Also does anyone know what book is being used for the class?

I don't believe my dept. has anything set in stone as to whether or not we can purcahse our own gear. Right now if guys want to go buy helmet's gloves and things like that they don't care. I bought my own helmet because all I will wear is a leather new yorker. We just brought in a new guy from a neighboring dept who had his own gear and he is able to wear it with no problems. Personally i'd buy my own gear if it wasn't to expensive

I was wondering if anyone used the term all physical findings unremarkable instead of writing down every little detail. My squad has one EMT who will write down what the problem is and all and then for everything else he will usually put all other physical findings unremarkable. Just wondering if others do this and if it's allowed by the region

I remember in my basic class we had to hand in 12 pcr's we wrote on ride alongs. I always feel i'm wiritng a novel when doing mine and use abbreviations where I can. For PMS I usually use motor neuor intactx4 and have never had anyone complain about it. I agree that documenting everything is a must because if ti's not written down it was never done. I've also found when writing my pcr's I usually go into the comments section when writing my objective and tie in whatever comments I may have into it. I'm hoping to take my medic starting the end of the month so hopefully in the class they'll go over writing pcr's alittle more to help me out to better myself