moggie6

Wasn't there a fire chief in the Fishkill area who wanted to call a ladder truck over to cover his station when Wappingers had a huge fire a couple of years ago? Did that request by the chief ever get met?

Its going to be interesting to see how it all plays out in the end. I'm sure if the 10,000-15,000 call short fall will be scrapped up by a commercial service. I wish you could get a list of who the volunteers work for. I'm curious if a large amount of them work for FDNY EMS or some other commercial service.

I just want to add that the Emergency Room Staff at Vassar Hospital do one hell of a job. I have the up most respect for them. I hope that no one takes this personally.

For those of us who have bought patients to Vassar's Emergency Room...... Does anyone find the computers they have annoying?

I'd be upset if blue lights were taken away from volunteers. While I feel a majority of EMT bravo users are located in bedroom communities of nyc there are many vollies in rural communities of ny. Places that make Pine Plains and Millerton seem like big cities. I know when i'm in parts of Ulstser, Sullivan, Green, and Columbia Counties that if I see a blue light I pull over for them. Someone needs help, I don't have a scanner, and it could be my family they are going to help. Do I agree with people driving like they do sometime with blue lights. No. Not at all. I think if the state decided to take blue or green lights away i'd be upset for the volunteers in the more rural areas of the state where the blue light still means something.

Would I still work as a firefighter with out a pension? No. I would have gone and become a police officer and continued to be a volunteer firefighter. Collected two pensions at once, LOSAP and State. Seems like no one wants to look at the law enforcement pension system. Why didn't we ask if police officers would still be cops if they didn't have a pension? After all we are both in the same pension system.

Someone said it earlier in one of the post. We as fire service organizations need to define what an alarm is. With technology what it is today there is no reason why any of us should not know the buildings we are going to. How many of us have heard a neighboring fire department get called out for a house fire and then go and look the address up on Google Earth. In Sullivan County's E-911 Systems a picture of the structure along with other relative life hazard and water source information comes up on the computer screen. It is then relayed to the responding units. Information like this changes how we as responders evaluate, look, and act at our alarms. The definition of a 1st alarm in a city is very different than one in a rural setting. With this information we can better determine what a 1st alarm is going to be in different areas.

When it come to the topic of relocating or even responding with an engine or truck. What we need is the fire service leaders to give us their expectations of what they want from mutual aid. If as a consensus the various emergency services leaders say, "I want XYZ when I call for ABC.", than we have a guideline to respond to incidents with that everyone can agree on. I'm not sure if a county could place such a policy into a mutual aid plan, such as a minimum manning clause. I.E. A manned fire engine or ladder truck will consist of 1 driver and 3 interior firefighters. If Engine ABC1 is requested for mutual aid perhaps they should call out with the personnel on the engine. "Engine ABC1 is responding manned with 3." or "Engine ABC1 is responding undermanned with 2". For the fire chiefs out there how would knowing the manning levels of incoming mutual aid you as the IC?

As a former city resident i'm happy the city is goiing to put something on paper for the ambulance service. I do think the two als ambulances is kind of short staffed for the city. But thats just my opinion.

when was the taylor ave fire in poughkeepsie?

I was really curious about this unit so I called the company. These units are utilized in Alaska on remote villages and islands. They are dual purposed and transport patients and prisoners from the Public Safety Building to an awaiting ship or airplane. Some of the islands have only two miles of roadway.

The unit it's self is very durable. The pickup truck will rot out from exposure from the sea air\spray before the unit will. They have sold around 10 of them to units in Alaska in the last year. The units do have heat and AC controls. It's in the specs. Some units have storage on the roof and others have the necessary accessories for prisoner transport. All in all this is a neat concept for an isolated and harsh environment.

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How many calls does Montrose do a year?

I worked from Jan 02-June 07. I remember how kyle would work overnight in dispatch and send us to zone 15 with the instructions....."you guys are it. your covering everything in dutchess county." You could cover anywhere from post 15.

Who remembers switching from 3A to 3B by switching couches?

Remember the Alamo!

abaduck Posted Today, 02:51 AM

Now perhaps one of our LEO members can comment on the following; I have heard that Westchester in almost all cases will issue a restricted carry permit - target & hunting only, for instance. I have further heard - is this true?? - that carrying in violation of this permit (i.e. carrying when not hunting or going to the range) is not a criminal matter at all, it's an administrative violation at worst, and there's no penalty - the only possible sanction is taking away your license. The reason for this being, that as the law is written in NY, there is no wording in the law which provided for restrictions on when you can carry; the law only provides for licenses to carry, and licenses to possess but not carry.

True or false?

Mike

You won't need an LEO member to tell you that it's illegal. It will be more than a administrative violation. The licensing officer can place limits on your permit. Those limits are the law. If you are only allowed to carry from home to range/home to hunting you can only do that. If you are caught you will be arrested. Further more if your permit is revoked, your handguns will go with it. The law is very clear that you need a permit to have a handgun. The law does provide for licesnse to carry and licenses to possess.

Yeah good luck with that. In Dutchess and Ulster it's an easy process but the sheriffs office is backed up with applications. You should always apply for a full carry permit. You don't know when you may want to carry with you one day. What ever you do with your permit and if you decide to get a handgun is up to you. Although you should have the option to carry it outside of your home for self defense. There is nothing wrong with that.

Once your done with the red tape and waiting period spend the money and buy a couple of books and take an NRA Basic Pistol Safety Course. Some good reading is The Gun Digest Book of Combat Handgunnery from Massad Ayoob as well as the Gravest Extreme. If you plan to concealed carry also try The Gun Digest Book of Concealed Carry by Ayoob. You can find these books in Barnes and Noble and they are filled with good usefull information. Last but not least i'd go to a local criminal defense attorney. Take and hour of his time and have him explain how and where you as a civilian sit with the law when it comes to self defense and the use of force. The rules are greatly different for a civilian than someone who is a LEO. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with the permit!

How did the CASF lines work out for you? Was there a notable difference?

The Biggest Advancement in Modern Firefighting is media. We can communicate so many different ways now. From the internet to the trade magazines that we buy. Cell phones, radios, tv, dvd, webisodes, online training and youtube. Modern Firefighting is better at communitcating through all sorts of media the good and bad. Years ago we did not have the acess to line of duty death reports. We didn't have the immediate acess to hazmat info or changes in building/vehicle construction. So I have to say media in all forms.

Date:08/19/09

Time:02:51

Location: 10 Harrison St

Frequency:

Units Operating:City Engines 1,2, and 3, Rescue 1, Ladder 1, Fairview 41-11 FAST\Speical Service

Weather Conditions: Hot and Humid

Description Of Incident:Fire on number 2 and 3 floor with extension to cockloft.

Reporters: moggie6

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I had been in a ambulance that had an MDT. I think it depends on the type of MDT. This one was touch screen and had the top 10 used commands for the ambulance. I liked that it has a red square in the bottom right hand corner for the pucker moments when you need help and need it fast.

JetPhoto, who's fire district is that boat in?

This is a very sad sad story.

Found this article on firehouse.com interesting. Just wondering what everyone thought of this. Here is the link to firehouse.

http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/a...mp;sectionId=56

Pete thats awesome!

Awesome Topic. Since most new apparatus come with some sort of "weather radio" aka fm\am cd-mp3 player. I have found these songs are often great to listen to in the ambulance.

Another One Bites The Dust-Queen

Highway To Hell and Hells Bells-AC\DC

Coccaine-Eric Clapton

War Pigs-Black Sabbath

All Lit Up Again-Buck Cherry

James Brown is always good.....

I Can't Drive 55-Van Halen

Although a small list I hope this helps you out!

All this talk of calling for MA for the big one is a great idea. But I don't think it answers the question of the topic. Deparments with no hydrants; why do we continue to burn buildings down. Sure, crews can do a lot with 1000 gallons of water, and fire depts xyz rolls out the door with 8000 gallons of water. But often then not the resources we have on paper don't roll out in the time we need them to arrive on the sene.

A few years ago, some of us did the Rural Operations Water Supply class in Unionvale with Larry Davis. If there was ever a man who knew how to move water it was him. We all missed the main message of his class though. The water had to be on the road from the first dispatch. I belive he used the Iowa Fire Flow Formula to figure out how many gallons of water he would need for the average home of the area and then reccomended building your response on that.

We burn down buildings because we fail to start a structure fire off with the worse case scenerio tanker assignment. The plan on paper doesn't go as planned. Now sure, there are fires that we respond to that no matter what we have or call it's not going to make a differece. The fire is too advanced on arrival that not even a city municiple water source will put out the fire. But when we run out of water at a fire scene I think we have no one to blame but ourselves.

I think New Square should be able to form it's own fire dept. Let's make sure they are trained to the minimum of firefighter 1. They should send one person to become a state instructor so they can teach themselves in house just like other volunteer fire depts do. Then after that they can hold an election for chief officers, send them to the nys classes and have them become a real volutneer fire dept. The community should have the same option as any other community in this state and to choose the level of service they want to have. Whats wrong with that?