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WITH REGRETS i PASS ON THE INFO OF THE PASSING OF ROBERT SCHNIBBE OF THE HASTINGS FD AND WESTCHESTER DES. BOB WAS SERVING AS THE BATTALION 14 COORDINATOR AT THE FIRE LAST NIGHT IN IRVINGTON. MORE INFO WILL BE POSTED IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE,REST INPEACE BOB. JJC

was this a filming for that show JACK***? Who would let someone even attempt to go into that. with all of the happenings over the years where firefighters have gotten hurt/killed during training someone really is liable for this. In NY the live burn class instructs you about hazards involved with live burns as well as how to properly recognize hazards of live burns,in the fire service it is unfortunate that we all learn from other mistakes and this is now one to learn from..they had balls but NO BRAINS!!!

I saw one today with an arrow pointing to the right and it said <<< IM HERE WITH STUPID!

It looks like another JACK*** stole a fire truck in Winnepeg Canada,I wonder if he has any relations in Mt Vernon???????????

any exception but FIRE!!!

I Did see your truck at the FTC one day and am aware that it can be done,right now L-2 is O.O.S so we will wait n see what can be done.

As I look at many great photo shots through various web sites i've noticed alot of different titles on the backs of many. Is it that important for some of the "BILLBOARD BACKS" to be displayed.I have seen some that really don't mean doo doo but its on there. This is a bit funny when you read some,some don't have enough room left for another title. I saw one where a guy had his return address on his back in case he got lost!!! (only kidding) keep it clean.

Great-alot of info that we all can use, I can't wait for those new 5'' nozzles hit the market,its going to alleviate alot of problems!!!!

ALS-first of all for a marine I compliment you on your math!!! On aerials I also agree but sometimes its just not going to be done because of its design, EG; some straight stick ladders have the electronic controls for the nozzles. I have worked off of one, I always felt that it would have been great to have a straight tip to do exactly what you mentioned,too disconnect the remote both from the turntable and on the fly of the ladder might be against the wishes of the upper echelons of the department. I am sure it can be done,

Some very good and strong valid information,keep it going!!! With some of the quotes being stated I have one to add, "DON'T PISS INTO THE WIND"!!!!!!!!!

With the fire in the bronx the other day a few of the storys that I have heard from that alarm has raised another red flag in my experiences as a firefighter. This fire from what I have heard was a tough crawl down the hallway and then into the fire apartment. The crews took a beatin from what i understand both on the fire floor as well as floor above. FDNY does utilize 2 1/2'' lines and does properly man them. The question that I ask is how many depts are not using the correct size hoselines when it comes to a fire such as the above. I do remember about 10-12 yrs ago they had a similiar fire on a windy day and it took them 3 2 1/2s to make the fire apartment. The question is this, when are the depts. that arent pre-pared to attack a fire such as this going to learn. When you aren't flowing enough water to put the fire out then people are going to get hurt or killed. This is basic stuff,we did away with booster lines years ago and yes we went to 1 1/2s,then 1 3/4s but many are not attacking larger fires with "LARGER WATER"- ---------------->

One of the biggest mistakes with the present system with the PD answering it is exactly why i started this, the PD where I am doesn''t even notify the FD on many emergencys,with a city who has hands full trying to resolve crimes, domestics etc; who's at falt? 1) the system 2) managers of both the FD/PD who still need to resolve dispatching protocall problems. we can go on and on with this one. I see it 1st hand how wrong the system is and someday a life will be lost because of not having the FD respond like most do throughout the states!

Over the years alot of the police depts have gotten alot better with recieving emergency calls via 911-however the old "CHECK AND ADVISE'' attitude still does exist. many benefits have come out of the 911 system especially when it comes to the fact that the incoming emergency call is recorded and its easier to check the tape for a quick review. Amazingly some of the dispatchers still have the CHECK AND ADVISE sickness which in turn does hamper us as firefighters being notified in a proper time frame. is this still present where you are? I know it is where I work in fact in many cases the FD is not even called! whats your scoop?

some people actually try to guess at that booster tank question!!!

when stat flight first started here in west co they did put on a coarse for the fire depts. most of these pilots land all day long and all night long w/o the FD standing by. when you are operating at an MVA or a s/b for a chopper it is not recommended to pull a line simply because its possible if the chopper goes down it might not be at the LZ,most a/c incidents happen off of the airfeilds,this only re conferms what i mentioned. there is nothing wrong with pre-paring a handline for a foam opeeration because in the event of a crash it is important to establish a rescue path using foam for rescuers to get in and or victims to remove themselves. some of the points to remeber at a LZ is to keep people away! as the chopper lands the pebbles are shot around like buck shot from a shot gun. protective clothing to include eye protection is important. for those of you working at a night LZ remember the less lights at the LZ the better for the pilot. Night vision can be effected from spotlights,strobles,light bars etc. its not a bad idea to s/b but is it really needed? if the pilot decalres an in flight emergency (IFE) then its a different story-remeber as an IC out there that ground contact should be made with the pilot and if he has any additional requests or change in plans he can tell you. when you approach the helicoptor on the ground for you tall guys stay low! us vertically challenged firefighters have abetter chance not to get hit by the blades of the chopper,use caution around the tail rotor because as this is spinning you may not see it. its a good practice to go to the opposite side of the tail rotor because it helps you to stay away from the tail rotor.

thanks Jybehofd-very informative-add some more for us to learn from if you have some time-hudson

ok i just spoke to a friend that has a boat there,they were in the water as posted by scott but lets still talk about dry dock boat fires,if i remember correctly NRFD had this type of fire either last year or the year before, how many gallon booster tank does marine 1 FDNY have?

i'm sure many depts have a sop pertaining to this topic,its always a good idea to have someone stay with the rig but in some cases especially places with limited manpower this is almost impossible.if we left a man with each rig that is not actively involved fighting the fire we would be in big trouble,we would lose the services of 6 or more firefighters,not good especially when on our 1st due assignement we actually roll in with an average of 12-14 men. in the situation in mt vernon the other day this man was in the street yelling at us as we arrived. scene security which is up to the PD is important. at this point of the alarm i know that officers were on location but they may not have been in the area that this "HERO" was. this could have been reaL bad but fortunately the outcome was good. nobody got hurt!

a post of an incident in rockland this am about several boats on fire,boat fires have additional hazards when they are in the water but many other problems are present when they are on dry dock. most boat clubs when they have boats in dry dock stack them right next to each other. when one boat goes up in flames chances are you will have other vessels involved also. i know the boat club involved and i am aware of the limited space that they have in the yard for storage. working around boats on dry dock may present some hazards that you may not be aware of. most boats are if they are not on a trailer placed on wood blocks on the hull or "keel" , they are then supported by jack stands on the port (left) starboard (right) sides with a stand near the bow and also at the stern. a collapse zone certainly needs to be established depending on the severity of the fire. if you are working on the port/starboard side of the boat remember that the only thing that is supporting the boat are those jacks. most boat yards this time of the year are vacant so early detection of the fire is not common allowing the fire to spread to others. many hazards fighting boat fires are present but we won't get into that ,lets go from here----

i believe the specs are almost complete as of this fri.

THE CHAUFFER WILL STAY WITH THE RIG IF THE STICK IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED,HE IS ASSIGNED FIREGROUND TASKS AND TOOLS AND GENERALLY DOES NOT GO BACK TO THE RIG UNTIL HE IS TOLD TO GO AND PREPARE TO PUT IT UP. IN THIS CASE THE MEMBERS OF L-3 WERE INSIDE ATTEMPTING TO FIGHT THE FIRE,SCENE SECURITY IS AN ISSUE HERE,HE SHOULD NOT HAVE THE CHANCE TO DO WHAT HE DID!

alot of good has been said, i know for a fact that some depts utilize 2 men as the 2 in 2 out rule,this is a smoke screen only because they have to do it by law-2 men aren't going to do anything by themselves when it comes to actively trying to rescue one of their own,while were talking about one of our own i don't agree with the fact that it is an emotional strain on the rescuer's if that was the fact then most major dept's would be calling for mutual aid every time there is afire. its our jobs to carry out rescue tasks especially if our own are involved-if anything it might put a candle under your *** to do more to save your own! ITS ALL ABOUT TRAINING! if you don't train on this as a dept or a company then shame on us-you-them, i know that the training will come later when its too late. someone has mentioned phoenix fd-yes they did a study and it was not only a study it was a hands on drill/training excersise and the outcome is startling. not good at all! be safe and carry on!!!

just curious,are fast teams used during an incident in their own districts that have fast teams,EG;In ******* this am a working fire was transmitted and a call for ******* fast team was activated,22 minutes later *** fast team arrived and fire was under control.how are depts utilizing their own men prior to the arrival of a neighboring fast team (this is no way any intent to bash a response from a neighboring dept so lets not do there!)

if people from Buffalo saw the reports that are given here when it snows it would probably be a good laugh to them,do you think that the reporters over react? maybe just a little????

as i sat today having lunch with a good friend who survived black Sunday i recieved the word of billys untimely death. from one second to another the atmosphere changed from a happy luncheon to a very sad and sickly feeling , i worked with billy years ago @ 60 control and shared alot of laughs both on and off the job. as time went on we all went our seperate ways with different jobs but we all kept in touch. The Malone family who pretty much has been a part of the Fairview fd for years and generations have lost a good man. billys dedication to both the fire service but more so his family is tragic. for those of us out there who may be close to the family you know that a family is in need and when help is needed its part of all of us to jump in and help. its not going to be an easy task but it is one that needs to be filled. to the malone family our thoughts and prayers are with you. God bless you Billy and thank you for being the person that we all know you are! J Carroll