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Chief- congrats on your retirement, your dedication to the fire service outweighs many. To share the knowledge to us behind you made us better in the Fire Service career. Enjoy- JJC

Montrose FD- early to mid 60s.

How many since 1982-83?

CFI 609 - very accurate and truthful remark!

Date:11-23-13 Time: 0958 Incident Type:Structure Fire Location:135 East Cedar St District: Mount Vernon Units:Engine 6,4,3 L2,Tl1. Car 2 (Captain) Description Structure Fire 1001- 2nd Alarm Mutual aid to cover- ladder 3 out of service

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With regret I pass on the info of the untimely death of Michael Dobbins of the Mount Vernon Fire Department. Mike was a 9 year member of the Department who was loved by all. A strong hard working individual that had a work ethic respected by all . Our thoughts and prayers go out to the Dobbins Family and friends. Service arrangements will be posted after they are finalized.RIP Brother!

I think my concern or point is that if one of my fellow firefighters go down while at a fire where I work it would be a sad outcome! "smoke Screen " still applies here and in reality the 2 members standing by are there to cover the 2 in 2 out then that means we have NO fast team at all at every fire!

Barry I should have probably been more direct when I posted the question, either way its all a smokescreen for many :-), sorry about bringing this up again but it hit home for me recently. Be safe!

Does your dept actively use a fast team from within your own dept or does it rely on a mutual aid team, IMO 2 guys standing in front of the fire scene with no formal training is nothing but a smokescreen to cover their butt. How does your dept cover the mandate. I know for career depts manpower is often the issue!

What's the difference between a civil service Fire Chief and a Fire Chief appointed by a Mayor, board of commissioners, town board etc? What are the rules and guidelines?

For those of you that didnt know it that quote from above was the Mayors statement! Thnx for the support to all.

KS- my mistake, they are not state Techs which eliminates the Guard requirement, I believe they are in the CSEA and at one point a push was to get into the IAFF.

After all - "For the most part we have a good Fire Department" :-)

Firecapt- you said it right. The odds were against us from the get go! IMO we did our best and went above and beyond. I'm sure in the long run the investigation that will be conducted would show that . A delay in calling the FD? Maybe- the press is ripping us apart and we who were there all have deep sadness for the family involved. May they all RIP!