TimesUp

It's my understanding that a certain department does have the money. In fact its budgeted, just not spent. Money is then taken from and spent in other areas. Such as non civil service jobs created for political pay back. Mutual aid to a point enables this to happen. Why spend money on the nesessities if it will be given to you in the long run. This is not my mentality, this is a mentality that exist in society that we all see everyday at work and in this case in government. Sooner or later there has to be a different approach to dealing with problem that never goes away. If your not getting the desired results its time to change your tactics. Most seminars I go to stress this. Its always about a new approach to an old problem. In some ways the evolution in the fire service is amazing. In other ways its stagnant.

was this thread just hijacked ?

If departments stop abusing mutual the need for the merging of departments will be negated? Mutual aid in some examples is what enables these "abusive departments" to not hire or have enough manning. Thus always calling for mutual aid. Why would a Mayor/Commissioner/Chief wan't to hand over the reins of his/her department when they can just call mutual aid and receive a supplement to their fire department. Many feel and I have read on here how well mutual aid works and at no cost to the department receiving mutual aid. I see how the merger would be better for all involved, citizens included. I just don't think there are enough motivating factors for the Mayors etc... to get on board. Barry you don't have to convince me. I'm not the one who gives the "ok" on wether this ever happens or not. The Mayors have to see a need, and with such an effective mutual aid plan they never will.

Only when its too cold to be up there. Make sure the rungs aren't iced up. That would hurt.

This didn't go over to well. I apologize, It cracked me up when I typed it. fast,RIT and then SOP's..........never mind. I never intended to injure anybody's fingers. But thanks for the explanation.

I do believe they can be released before the fire is out if there is a "RIT" on scene. Although some departments have SOP's which prohibit this.

Thats the truck they use to carry retirement packages. The old one broke down. Theres a slight chance it's for something else.

Oh that ladder tower. I was thinking something else. My bad! I'm Sorry for any confusion I might of added to what is already a confusing topic. The explanation above is spot on.

It was a judge who sided with the vulcans which allowed the lawsuit to move forward . Then deblasi was elected and he capitulated.

A good liberal judge can decimate any job. Keep voting for them!

Reported Bong threat

How long until somebody says its "FAS Team" Start the clock now! Until everybody is no longer working in a idlh environment wether a house or a hole

Ladder towers were used in medieval time to attack castles. Archers would shoot at the castle defender from the top. Game of Throwns starts soon. Tower Ladders are the safest type of ariels in the fire service. Rearmount ladders are unpredictable and have been known to hit firefighters in the head while operating at fires.

Here what I learned from all this. greenwich is trying to expand its ranks and build a new firehouse. Good for the guys in Greenwich. Dixie is annoyed that Seth posted a link to the article.

My brother in law is from Rochester. Now it all makes sense

Besides its clear to me the guy on the ground ladder swung his head into the aerial. The ladder was placed OOS until inspected for damage. Firegrounds are dangerous we should use more caution while operating. I'm glad all are OK

I'm kidding hence the emote with the wink. My sense of humor sucks!

That's why left side pedestals are better. He would of been able to see the guy. One day departments will wake up

What if one day the religion symbol on the apparatus is not yours? Maybe it will be a phrase that most on here might find offensive. Then what?

The Vulcan decree is what made the written test pass/fail and the physical agility graded. It was this that made it almost impossible for a woman to get hired? How do you successfully change this? Go back to the days when both portions are equally weighted? things have come full circle in 33 years. Remarkable!

After not being able to identify the mayday the I.C. came up with a great plan. Find the mayday and bring him outside so he can see who it is. #trainwreck

At least it wasn't parked at woodbury commons

Alleged "Rescue"

If it's not on emtbravo then it didn't really happen.

In this day and age I wish it said "veterans are encouraged to apply"