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Just to keep this active so we get a nice turnout.

thanks everyone

Interesting, does anyone have the actual by-law to share here that this piece is siting from IAFF?

To the Muller family, the members of the Pawling Fire Department, Pawling Fire District and the Town of Pawling, the members of the Wassaic Fire Company extend our deepest condolences and our thoughts and prayers are with you during this difficult time. The obituary of Commissioner Muller as it appeared in the Poughkeepsie Journal is below. PAWLING - Richard D. Muller, 63, a long-time resident of Pawling, passed away Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at St. Francis Hospital, Poughkeepsie, NY. Born in New York City on February 5, 1945, he was the son of Frederick and Hedwig (Heid) Muller. He worked as a maintenance supervisor for Green Haven Correctional Facility until he retired in June 2006. On September 4, 1976 he married Terrell Kurtz; she survives him at home. Richard was a dedicated member of the Pawling Fire Department, serving his community for 45 years, and was Chairman of the Board of Fire Commissioners since 1992. He was a lifemember who tried to further the education and training of the fire department members. Richard was a former member of the Pawling Lions Club who enjoyed cooking, hunting, fishing, power boating, and going on cruises with his family and friends. In addition to his wife, Terrell, he is survived by his son, Thomas Shaw and his wife, Donna of Bethel, CT; his two daughters, Susan Jackson and her husband, Kerry of Wingdale, NY and Christine Brunow and her husband, Henry of Pawling, NY; and six grandchildren, Maureen, Samantha, and Bridget Jackson, Olivia Shaw, and Holly and John Brunow. He is predeceased by his brother, Norman Muller who died November 28, 1980. Friends may call at the Horn & Thomes, Inc. Funeral Home, 83 East Main Street, Pawling Friday 2-4 and 6-8 PM. The Pawling Fire Department will conduct a service at the funeral home at 6 PM. A funeral service will be conducted at Christ Church, Quaker Hill, Pawling on Saturday at 11AM. Burial will follow in the Quaker Hill Cemetery, Pawling, NY. In lieu of flowers, the family has requested donations be made in Richard's memory to St. Jude's Children Research Hospital, 501 St. Jude Place, Memphis, TN 38105.

Yes he was, sorry again for your loss

I've heard of the contender series but haven't see one until now, I am sure it is some what cheaper than the custom chassis but as you said the one major concept of the PUC is the loss of the pump compartment and the ease of the pump maintenance. Can you get some other shot Seth to see what advantages this PUC has? In the picture the pump housing is alot smaller which will reduce the overall length.

thanks Chief and congrats on the award.

Excellent choice, Congrats Chief

Good deal thanks

What is going on in the 6th picture, looks like they are assisting another brother?? Great work Roosevelt and assisting Depts.

last time I went to Appleton it was 60 when we arrived at 6pm, tornado warnings were issued and when we woke up it was friggin snowing!

ok how close is close like close like me and you close? Did you follow that one! I just went by the location as Westchester.

I second this one Dan, thanks ALS, man that was a great read, the next question is you said you would come to Dutchess, are you available to assist us as a group on some training this spring. You can PM me if interested. I know Dan would welcome this as well.

Bill and Anthony are you guys going to Copperfields on 1/23???

Thought I would share some photos of our car fire training drill from last evening, it went very good and our new members did an excellent job.

It was kinda a shade of brown, then white fluffy stuff.

Great shots Bill again, Excellent work East Fishkill and Dan I love the pictures as well, especially the ones of the members working, the faces and what they are doing. If you don't learn, you're in the wrong business.

If everyone holds to their word, I know of about 15 to 20 that are going just from JHK and Wassaic, not including some wives that are coming along, we figured they deal with enough of our crap on a daily basis why not take them out for a few drinks with us.

No One ???

Nice rig, very well designed, you can't beat a Rescue 1, we have one and love it. Thanks for sharing and best of luck with the it.

other than this It would have been a lot better if they didn't go off." I dont see a problem with anything else. the wet floor thing is a stretch.

Correct, as stated if we take off the extrication tools, hydraulic pump, 2 cell foam system, large generator as we would and it probably is close or over the 30K. The PUC is a sweet setup, especially from the maintenance standpoint

Now I see why you had to have deep pockets, we will not have the extrication tools, but will have a CAFS system. Good luck and can't wait to see the photos from your trip to Appleton.

While we didn't originally send anything about this on The Secret List, we did have some information that was sent to us as a submission that we posted on the website-and the info was inaccurate. Many of your probably saw the e-mail "floating around" on the "solar panel" issue as well. Due to the amount of submissions that come into www.FireFighterCloseCalls.com, it is impossible to not have something slip through once in a while, albeit rarely. We have always taken technical accuracy extremely seriously since we started The Secret List and the FFCC website 11+ years ago and we do our best. We are fortunate and appreciative to have alotta readers. One of them is a San Jose (CA) FF. A FF who teaches classes on FF Safety related to PV (photovoltaic) systems, who has a degree in Solar Technology, and is also a member of the California State Fire Marshals PV Task Force. While we heard from many in the manufacturing community about this issue, we were very glad to hear from Fire Engineer Matt Paiss of the San Jose FD who wanted to offer some "firefighter" clarity to this discussion. It is an area we all need to be aware of, but as is often the case; a few misconceptions can create miscommunication. We will turn this over to Matt so he can provide his training and knowledge to address the issues one by one so you can develop your own FD SOP: 1. Panels are only energized in daylight. Overcast days too, but NEVER at night. Scene lights will NOT energize the panels. 2. If the panels, or the roof are on fire, you will not get shocked by spraying water on them. Put the fire out. 3. The voltages of panels are anywhere from 24-48 volts each and generate from 125 to 200 watts in optimal conditions. These panels are "strung" together in series to increase the voltages to 120 vdc to 400 vdc. While 600 vdc is possible, it is pushing the UL ratings of the enclosures, etc.. The current of these strings is usually from 5-9 amps. And that is only when there is a load (or put more simply, the inverter is sending the power back into the grid). If the inverter is off, there is no current only voltage, i.e. open circuit. 4. The inverters that change the power from DC to AC, are powered by AC. If you shut off the main service breakers, the inverter is OFF and there is NO AC power being sent into the structure. There are capacitors in the inverters that can hold a charge for about 5 min, but in the daytime the panels are producing power anyway. When the sun goes down....everything is de-energized. FIREFIGHTER WARNING: There is ALWAYS energized DC power in the conduit from the panels to the inverter IN THE DAYTIME. So, secure all utilities (per SOP's) and stay away from the panels and the conduit in the daytime. That is the danger. 5. Do not break a panel with your axe or related forcible entry tools. Each panel in the string could be carrying the FULL VOLTAGE of that string (120-400 VDC), not just one panel, so if you put a tool through it, you will very likely be getting the rest of the shift off....so don't do it....there is no need to do it, vent somewhere else, and kill the utilities at the main panel based upon your SOP's. 6. There are often junction boxes on the roofs (residential systems). If they do have fuses (not all do), and you pull a fuse while under load, you will very likely cause a fire. Not to mention the time it will take to open the box and do this. Bad idea-leave it alone. 7. In California, we will not let a house burn because it has PV Panels on the roof. I may not be able to put my hole in the best place, but I will put one in where I can when required. Thanks Matt. If you have any questions or comments for Matt, he can be reached thru our submissions page: http://firefighterclosecalls.com/submit.php Firefighters and Officers should do their best within their own FD SOP's, to know where in their 1st due area they have these panels...thru pre-planning. Once they are identified, determine the plan before the fire and do followup thru the installer/mfg of the panels. We will also have links to a video and related info posted soon so you can further learn and followup posted from the secretlist from firefightersclosecalls.com

Dan congrats, I will give you the cash award part of this honor at Copperfields on 1/23/09. Thanks for all the help with our website, pictures and support of the Wassaic Fire Co. Your face was a welcome site at the stove fire last Friday, my first official commanding role in many moons.