Bull McCaffrey

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  1. Posted

    Jealous?? Of what?? A few cops letting some people out of their apartment and throwing pots of water at a stove fire?? I don't think so. It's not a grab by the way when the people are walking out themselves, and no sane officer in the FDNY or I think anywhere else would put a unit in for a citation for this incident for fear of being the laughing stock of the whole job after the Board of Merit got a hold of it. Lets see what happens with these ESU officers though, I am sure they will receive some sort of honor.

    Do these count as grabs/rescues? I would imagine so given the brothers posing for the cameras with their saves. But humans, trapped in a smoke filled apartment getting saved by the cops=no good.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/injured_baby_hawk_saved_in_queens_HEEHcI9jPIzK9ZpZQbOztL

    http://animaltourism.com/news/2010/04/04/fdny-saves-three-baby-squirrels

    http://www.catster.com/lifestyle/fdny-firemen-on-lunch-break-save-brooklyn-kitten

    Haters gonna hate.

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  2. Posted · Edited by helicopper
    Quote post edited to remove personal snipe

    ESU can do every damn car accident in the city, not one fire house would give a rats behind. But do it correctly. And I was involved in an incident with ESU where a member was injured quite severely, guess who was treating him, ME! If Ray Kelly wasn't pulling the strings things would be like every other City in the USA, police doing criminal actions, FD doing rescues and fires.

    What's your point? Matt Long Ladder 43, if you're on the job, you should know. If not, Google his name and educate yourself. It goes both ways.

  3. Posted · Edited by Bull McCaffrey

    Bad Box wrote,

    Holy cow! This is the most long winded post I've ever seen. BTW, you state that ESU was formed in 1925 and that they trained FDNY's Rescue 1. Rescue 1 was formed in 1915 and did not get trained by some folks who ten years later developed an interest in job done the FDNY's Rescue Co's.

    This is akin to realzing how badly you're losing the game that you take your ball, call it quits and run home pouting.

    The most informative, articulate and concise post on here and you call it "long winded". If you are who you say you are, truly a disappointment.

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  4. Posted

    Why so much hate for the cops on this board? I can never understand it. These guys were asked to help out by THE FIRE CHIEF and they're still wrong in the eyes of some. It's almost like some guys would rather see the structure burned to the ground before they see PD being cast in a postitive light for helping out when REQUESTED by the fire chief.

    Maybe, just maybe if that particular fire district was squared away, the cops wouldn't have to be doing their jobs.

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  5. Posted

    What do you think the occupants of that apartment would say if the cops (fully capable and equipped to remove them out of the apartment) just radioed the job in and then stood around for 4 minutes for the engine company to show up? If a simple food on the stove is routine (which it is) why the big uproar over this one? I think I know the answer but I'll let someone else say it.

    You never see outside rubbish or simple aideds attacked with some much zeal and ardor as lets say, a scaffold job? Wonder why is that?

    Some people need to take a look in the mirror and reevaluate why it is they took this job in the first place.

  7. Posted

    Maybe we should close down some fire depts and hire more State Troopers. That way, we could have more Troopers on the road and let them fight fires too. I wonder how the NY State Police Union would feel about that.

    I'd also like to know if the NY State Police union and management fully endorses their Troopers acting as Firefighters.

    NY State Police PBA phone number: (518) 462-7448

    Feel free to call and ask them yourself. Let us know what they say.

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  8. Posted · Edited by Bull McCaffrey

    Several years ago in Bridgeport, Ct a well respected police officer by the name of Terrance Flood was killed when he went into a burning building. The fire itself was knocked down very quickly by the department and no one was in the building. but a dedicated police officer died for Nothing.

    In the case of these State Troopers fighting this fire from the outside, should any firefighters be inside the house anyway ? Water is being poured in from what looks like a 2 1/2 inch line. I don't think so.

    Bottomline dude, THEIR chief who was most likely at the job felt it neccesary to personally congratuate them for a job well done. They were there, you were not therefore you can't really comment as to who was inside or who wasn't. The job got done. Stop hating.

    FYI: The brothers from E-158 were taken care of for their actions in assisting PD with their deck gun. I can assure you that they didn't do it for the "honor". They did it because it was the right thing to do.

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  9. Posted

    I do not agree with this at all. I certainly have the Highest Respect for Any State Troopers or City/Town Police officers for that matter.

    The fact that if they get hurt, this is Not their job. And who is guarding the hen house while these Troopers fight this fire. If I saw this nd wanted to commit a crime somewhere on their beat, I know there could be a delayed response giving me a better chance to get away with it.

    If they were firefighters dressed in civilian clothes doing this, we would be the first to critize them for not wearing the proper gear.

    I think Somebody mentioned that they were glad that a State Trooper took the hose line and started to fight the fire. Did I read that right ? A firefighter was glad that a State Trooper took the hose line to fight the fire. Should a firefighter take a gun from the Troopershands and shoot a suspect ? It doesn't make sense to me reading that.

    I don't think any State Trooper should be honored for doing this. And personnelly if I was the Chief, I'd be speaking to their supervisor explaining why Firefighters fight fires and not State Troopers.

    If I was going for surgury, would I want my electrician who just put in a new fuse panel to open my heart.

    I really can not believe some people would agree with this. Maybe they ment well, but should I be pulling cars over for speeding, or should I leave that for the people who are trained (and paid) to do it.

    Didn't FD ask the troopers for help? You make it sound like the cops were freelancing, tapped the hydrant and stretched the line on their own. I bet if it was your house on fire, you wouldn't be complaining that the cops were putting water on it.

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  10. Posted

    What is this "lost body" incident you guys are talking about?

    While the expansion joints might have been a factor, I'd go as far to say so was the speed. The city can go as far as making that section of the BRP a covered roadway. Unfortunately the way people drive, there will still be these horrific, multi fatal 53s. The only way to prevent that is to outlaw driving.

    Prayers go out to the family and the guys who had to respond to this job.

  21. Posted

    First off, I don't understand why all of NYPD ESU's are on a heavier duty, larger chasis like this. But I guess the Ford F-550's are just as heavy duty and the current bodys are just the right size for patrol. But you think that they (NYPD ESU) could use the extra space as well for the ever-increasing terrorism equipment they carry.

    http://www.odysseyauto.com/vehicles/rescue/city_hd_esu.html

    Just one question, what does NYC Corrections ESU do?

    NYPD ESU has been in the game for quite a long time. If they're doing it a certain way, it's probably cause its tried and true. If I remember correctly, they have a separate detail within the unit that is solely responsible for HAZMAT/Terrorism duties. I believe they're quartered in uptown Manhattan.

  24. Posted · Edited by Bull McCaffrey

    While I may not have several thousand posts or hundreds of popularity points, I've been around this place long enough to know that had this been a FF under that bus this incident would be a non issue. Being that it was a PO cast in a positive light by the media, his actions are scrutinized and criticized by the "brothers" on here.

    There is an inherent disdain for cops on this site, especially when it comes to them performing any sort of rescue work. It is plainly obvious to see. How come there is zero criticism on the part of FD using spreaders to lift the bus? Wasn't too long ago when ESU was crucified by many on here for attempting and failing a lift with spreaders. Granted these guys used cribbing and took their time but nonetheless the majority on here condemned that technique as a whole... When cops were doing it.

    With that being said, good job to the PO who put himself in harms way to comfort a fellow human being and FD for safely extricating the victim. Hopefully she makes a full recovery.

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