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Remember that with a pump of 1750 GPM or more, it can only generate that with DUAL 6 inch suctions while drafting. A 1500 GPM pump can be fed by a single 6 inch suction and generate the 1500 GPM at draft. Put a 1750 pump at draft with only 1 6 inch suction, and it wont generate the 1750 GPM it's rated for as it's being choked off for water. I was told by a pump manufacturer that most pumps that pump 1000-1500 GPM are the same pump, but with some discharge(s) not used. Meaning that a 1000 GPM pump COULD produce 1500 if the 2 extra 2.5 inch discharges arent blocked off at the pump. An extra 2.5 inch discharge creates another 250 GPM of rated output. Basically, if you pay for the extra plumbing for the 2.5 inch discharges, you can go from 1000 GPM to 1500 GPM for a few hundred dollars more as long as the pump is rated for it. Same thing for 1750 to 2000 GPM pump, but the pump itself is bigger than the 1000-1500 GPM model. This is why there is a big price jump for the cost of the pump when going from 1500 GPM to 1750.. Your buying the next size bigger pump. Kudos to FDNY for spending the few extra bucks on the bigger pump, extra discharges and the suction hose to generate the large GPMs.

No company by that name is listed in the fold out exhibitor map.

Good show. but it was disheartening to see lines of people at the booths that sold nothing but "cool guy T shirts", but no one at the free cholesterol screening/health wellness booth or booths that were selling training manuals. I did talk to Spotted Dog about their ROVER system at length, I think it is much better than I Am Responding. IAR was the first to market with a response system, but Spotted Dog perfected it. I sense a change coming in my fire station.

I have 4 buddies that went that route. 2 are still in, the other 2 left shortly after graduation and got hired on at local PD's making much more $$. Seems to be a good way to get the academy done and a badge in hand.

They also use the Ferrara "Stong Arm" too..............................

What Im trying to get at is: A "dual member" rolls up to a scene in his POV. Both the FD IC and the EMS IC are there. Fire IC says "I need you to do fire stuff" and the EMS IC says "I need you to do EMS stuff" Both are lawful orders from the members command. Who does a dual member listen to? Another example: A dual member gets into a car accident on the way to a call, and gets hurt. They havent been assigned to either Fire or EMS as to who they "are" at the scene yet. Who's insurance does it go on? When I was in SVFD in the 1990's, I was both a EMT and FF, and it didnt matter as if you were fire only, EMS only, or both. It all was one big happy family. When I rolled up to a scene, I did what ever task I was assigned to at dual fire/EMS call by the IC. Say it is a PIAA with extrication, and both fire and EMS are operating side by side at the call. Now things are going to get hazy at certain points (examples listed above) as to which family you are in and whos administratively responsible for you if your a "dual" responder belonging to both agencies. Where I am a member of now, fire (volunteer) and EMS (paid) are 2 seperate agencies and the lines are clear and we dont have this potential problem. These examples are just things to be ironed out with some MOU's put in place.

How is it decided who Im responding for when doing the "POV response"? Just another question that will need to be addressed and agreed to by both parties if something like this happens.

Just a question... Say Im a member of the SVFD. I now join the SVAC. Im now a member of both. A call comes in for both fire and EMS needed. How does the IC even know who Im "working for" when I get to the scene in my POV? Who's my IC I take orders from at the scene, Fire or EMS? Who covers me for insurance if I get hurt going to/at/coming back from a call? As a member of both, it could be confusing. Just trying to understand how this might all work down at the worker bee level.

My rig is still in the paint shop, due out next week.

Anybody planning on going? It's tommorrow.

Only 2 days away, the weather will be great. A neat place to go if you have never seen the collection.

Neat truck. Is that the old QA-1 parked next to it?

Our dept looked into a Casino night a while back. There was alot of legal stuff needed, dealers needed to be trained/certified by the state if I remeber correctly, and permits needed to be had. It looked to be alot of legal type work done before anything got off the ground.

I can now hear the radio call.. "Chief, we need Urea to the scene" for those long duration pumping calls.

Double post, sorry

I wish we could still get 8v92 engines... No emissions, lots of power..

Just another reason we speced out a 2009 model motor in our new 2010 engine..........

So this brings up a question. Your truck is broken down as in the situation above, and it's not going to be able to move out of the fire's way. Your have a few minutes of before the fire gets to the truck and/or it endangers your escape route. Do you attempt to save any of the loose gear on the truck? Air pack, AED, TIC, portable radios, nozzles, ect? Or do you hope insurance will cover it all? I'd atleast make an attempt for the high dolar stuff even though insurance would cover it. TIC/AED/Airpacks/portable radios if there was a few minutes. One guy can carry a bunch of those items out of harms way in just one trip. 2 or 3 guys could save a ton of stuff on their retreat to safe ground. This is all assuming there is no "run for your life" situation. In that case, it's all going up in smoke.

I carry the following in my : Coat: Survivor light 15 feet of nylon tubular webbing cable cutters electricans pliers work gloves Pants: 4 1 in screw driver 2 chocks 30 feet of rope with carabiener shove knife TFT combination hose tool/spanner wrench/glass breaker/seatbelt cutter thing the dept issues It's enougth to atleast have a good attempt at "self extrication" out of a jam.

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Commissioners are not paid by law, and other than a warm feeling in my heart knowing Im doing whats right for the district and taxpayer, there are no benefits to doing the job in my district. Commissioner positions dont count for LOSAP either. I wouldnt say that the fall workshops in Ellenville put on by the Association of Fire Districts arent "fun party time type benefits" either for districts. For districts in my area, its only about 45 minutes away from me, and we are "day trippers" there. Some districts from a few hours away stay for a few days at the hotel there, but get all thoughts of the FASNY conventions at the Concorde from the 1990's out of your heads. The Nevelle Grand is falling apart, and there are no hospitality rooms or beer flowing down the hallways. I became a commissioner to advance the fire dept while looking out for the taxpayer. It's a balancing act, but it works. Yes, there are some districts where the commissioners may get benefits, but that doesnt happen in my neck of the woods in my or other surrounding districts. Districts in my area operate on the $300,000-$400,000ish dollars a year we get from the taxpayers. Write out the checks for insurance for the year in January, and thats about $80,000-$100,000 off the top of the 3-400,000 figure.. We dont have $ for "commissioner perk benefits", nor would I want them if we did. I'd put the $ to training or equipment.

I have no problem with audits or accountability, i just wish the state would foot them bill for the unfunded mandate.

I'd like to thank the depts on LI that got the ball rolling with Newsday story several years ago. From the fallout, all districts in NYS now have a requirement to be externally audited yearly which costs on average $8,000- $10,000 dollars. Thats $ that could be better spent on training, equipment, etc. Even if you pass with flying colors this year, you still get the same audit the next, there is no "your in good shape, keep it up, and we'll be back in 2-3 years or so". $10,000 is 5 or 6 sets of gear, a bunch of portable radios, or a days worth of good training. Im all for accountability in districts, but NYS is punishing ALL of them for a few bad apples, and we all must pay the price, litterally.

Do you plan on keeping the thing for 20-30 years and "run it into the ground", or do you guys sell them at 10-15 years with lots of life?