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I think the only thing to say here is...WOW!

Its been a rough week for the emergency services. May they all rest in peace.

This has been a topic of discussion for many of my collegues. I'm very intrested to see how everyone would respond to this. Your fire depatrment is dispatched to a local high school at 1245pm for an activated pull station. The school is a 2 story brick building, there is a hydrant located at the roadway entering the property and a second located in the rear parking lot. Upon arrival the first units observe light smoke coming from a first floor front window, the building has not been evacuated. They then make entry and hear loud "popping" sounds coming from the schools main office, and note a blood trail from the lobby to the office door. This could possably be the scenerio for an MCI drill so any and all input would be greatly appreciated! Ready......GO!

Well Crime Cop, i too was scratching my head on this one so out came the PL/CPL book. Not sure how helpful this will be but here we go... S140.05- Tresspass A person is guilty of tresspass when he knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in or upon premises. S140.15- Criminal tresspass in the second degree A person is guilty of criminal tresspass in the second degree when he knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in a dwelling. seems that in NYS if the homeowner says stay out you stay out, but then again, can he prove to you he is the SOLE property owner? This should be a good discussion.

"just a good old blow-out discussion is all I thought we were having." That is one thing i can agree on with you 100% cap. While some posts did seem to be "aggressive" or were taken as "Perosnal attacks" they are the opinion of the member posting them. As the origional post said, there will be a whirlwind of debate here. No one person is wrong and everyone will feel they need to defent their beleif. efdcapt115, please dont feel like we all arent greiving for our lost brothers, everyone has their greiving process. I too am deeply saddened by the loss of our brothers but as bvfdjc316 stated we cannot allow the lessons of this video to escape us. I have been reading your posts and you do make several valid points, ones that should be taken into concideration by us "young guys" (a title i do not mind having because i am for all intents and purposes a young man still). This is a great debate here and there are many lessons being learned. I feel that there are many lessons you can teach us and there are just as many we can teach you. Please dont feel that i am trying to make an attack or single you out, this post is directed towards everyone, especially us youngins. P.S. please excuse the spelling and grammer, its been a long day

"Who cares about the PPE. They should not be doing that in the first place. If they wanted to do something good, find the driver and find out what he is hauling. Then when the FD arrives, they can relay that info to them. What in this video did they really save. Nothing!!! Fire Department people do Fire stuff and PD do whatever it is you do." I think the point you are missing mfire is that in their county that is what they do. What the LEOs saved was hours on a fire scene! We can all sit here and play monday morning quaterback on all of these posts but the fact remains that we are going by what we are told or have read. What these LEOs do down there is no different than a PDs ESU doing EMS calls or cutting people out of a car. Some ESUs even do high angle rescue, should they stop because the FD has that team already? Watch the video again, the engine rolled up with ONE man on it and nowhere in the video did they show a second engine or more FFs pulling up. How long should they have waited? I'm going to try and change the direction of this thread for a bit here...does anyone have any POSITIVE feedback on the subject?

this might be intresting...does this mean more layoffs?

"This video seems to have hit a sore spot with some members" Topics will hit sore spots, thats the beauty of living in the USA. Personally i dont feel that the officers did anything wrong making the inital attack. My only gripe is that they were not wearing any type of PPE. Vehicle fires are a risky business, you never know whats in there. The idea of having LEO's cross trained in fire fighting is a fasinating concept and i will be doing some more research in it. The benefits of cross training can go on forever and as was said in the origional post, everyone is working towards a common goal! Stay safe!

as was already said, good stop and great teamwork. now that we have covered that, even if you have been trained in fire fighting porcedures, dont run up to it without proper PPE!!!!!!!! The fire was well advanced into the cab of the truck and you never know what is in there. That being said, i wish PDs by me would help out like that. Getting them to throw down road flares is like pulling teeth! Stay safe folks.

I am pretty sure we have one stretcher at CCVAC that will hold up to 750 lbs.

WOW! Great find. Not many people know what a dispatcher actually does, kinda gives you a whole new respect for what they do! As for the dispatchers that were interviewed, very well spoken as always!

Excellent topic. Most people dont realize how dangerous water can be. We all spend so much time teaching our kids and our communities how to prevent fires in our homes and how to react when there is a fire but not so much time on water safety. There are many regulations on swimming pool safety in my town but it seems that people dont know about them, not to mention there are 29 bodies of water often visited by people swimming and fishing. Most of these locations are not visable from the road way and are nearly impossable to access with rescue equipment. Heres a question for everyone...do any fire departments out there offer any type of public education for water/ice safety?

May they all rest in peace. Prayers go out to the family, friends and brothers in this sad time.

"Though i walk through the valley of the shadow of death i shall fear no evil for you are with me" Always in our hearts...May they rest in peace.

Hello all. I recently had the chance to see the "King Airway" used for the first time. Honestly I was not impressed. Seemed to me that the king airway was less effective than the OPA I had placed upon arrival. I found it more difficult to ventilate the patient and saw a great deal of gastric distention. My question for discussion is "Was the King Airway properly placed or are these time saving intubation devices just junk?" I have a feeling some of you will ask so heres some quick stats...pt was 50-60 yrs old, approx 6' tall and weighed around 380 lbs. I know this wouldnt be an easy tube normally but arent these things supposed to make intubation easier? If any one has used these and has grown fond of them please let me know. Thanks Guys and Girls and remember to make it home at the end of the day!

What do you get if you win? Prize or just braging rights (which are better than prizes in most cases)?

What do you get if you win? Prize or just braging rights (which are better than prizes in most cases)?