KelliPVAC

Pleasantville VAC - 1188

In no way do I wish to insult you sir, but I believe that is the attitude Seth was talking about in his post, instead of taking responsibility for your own actions you point fingers at others and do nothing but sling baseless negative comments at each other which solves nothing.
Seth said it right. I have always felt that I do not use my skills enough to be truly efficient at everything, which is why if you look in my certificates you will see numerous duplicates. I refresh training every chance I get, especially if it is something I dont use often enough. Training at my firehouse is non-existant right now, but thats because our firehouse has turned into a shelter relief effort to collect enough food, clothing and household items for those that were affected by the Hurricane and flooding in my county. My chief has been consumed with that for months now and our drill nights are just not what they should be. So I go looking for training elsewhere, at other stations. Instead of pointing fingers at my fellow officers, I take accountability for myself and get the training I need other places.
For years now I have felt that Firefighter I & II should be just like EMT certifications where you need to recert every 3-5 years. But every time I talk about it I get laughed at and told that idea is rediculous (most of the time by career firefighters whom I thought would never discard that idea) and even have people get angry with me. Its mostly lazy firefighters who do not want to train any more than they have to let alone have to do it every 3-5 years, who I feel shouldnt be firefighters any way.
I agree, people need to be less defensive when mistakes are pointed out and more proactive in finding solutions, and learn from the mistake instead of make excuses for it or try to sweep it under the carpet.

Thank you to everyone for your kind words! I hope this is a success for a great cause.
The supply drive starts today!!!! PVAC is very excited to be helping another community and Fellow Firefighters.

The correct email address is:
Kelli_conley7612@yahoo.com
I have been in contact with a member of this site and he gave me a list of what was needed. Years ago PVAC did a food and supply drive for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Now we would like to help our fellow New Yorkers.
We have a local business owner who volunteered to drive his box trucks up to deliver the items we collect.
I hope it is successful!
Kelli
Captain
Pleasantville VAC

The correct email address is:
Kelli_conley7612@yahoo.com
I have been in contact with a member of this site and he gave me a list of what was needed. Years ago PVAC did a food and supply drive for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Now we would like to help our fellow New Yorkers.
We have a local business owner who volunteered to drive his box trucks up to deliver the items we collect.
I hope it is successful!
Kelli
Captain
Pleasantville VAC

ptwatson - I agree with you, it is a total defamation of character to Officer Hess. Al Sharpton, was here right after and left quickly,for him to not to be opening his mouth, he even knows!
They had a quote in Lohud, "I think it's amazing that so many celebrities can see through the lies that the Westchester D.A. and Mount Pleasant and Pleasantville police have put out there," Smith said.
Oh yeah because I know JayZ and kanye are on my list of top celebrities. How many other criminals get killed by cops, they don't all get a rap song? I love how he is still the victim here. Some people need a reality check.
Maybe instead of a rap song, his wonderful friends and "celebrities" can do some kind of awareness about underage drinking, driving while intoxicated and trying to run down a cop. I will always say it, everyone is lucky from that night it could have been a lot worse, but could have all been prevented!

#1 - DJ Henry was called a punk, scumbag kid because he ignored a lawful order from a uniformed police officer, chose to flee the police in a motor vehicle, and then attempted to run down another police officer with his vehicle... if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, then guess what.... it's a duck.
#2 - Knowingly getting behind the wheel of a motor vehicle while under the influence of alcohol, then knowingly ignoring a lawful order from a uniformed police officer, then attempting to run over a second uniformed police officer while attempting to flee is not a damn mistake. You make it sound like this kid accidentally rear ended a patrol car in the parking lot cause he was busy sexting some piece of a** he got the night before. This kid is responsible for his own actions. It's his actions that started the chain of events that lead to his death, and one one elses.
#3 - What differed that night is that this kid, while intoxicated, attempted to flee the police and could have killed a police officer with his vehicle had the officer not responded with deadly physical force to stop the threat to his own life. Not exactly a nightly occurrence at any bar, irregardless if there's underage drinking or not.
#6 - Officers on either side of the vehicle? An officer approached the vehicle from the side, just as you wanted, and what did Henry do? He drove off in an attempt to flee the scene. Did you want the officers to run alongside his vehicle? Or how about we just let this intoxicated, irrational, and clearly dangerous individual drive out of the parking lot onto the public roadway, where he can kill some innocent person just driving home from work. Shoot someone to kill? Officer Hess discharged his firearm to stop the threat in compliance with the NYS Criminal Procedure Law. Officer Hess was presented with an individual using his vehicle as a weapon in an attempt to flee police, and in doing so posed an immediate threat of causing PO Hess serious physical injury and/or death, and PO Hess utilized the appropriate level of force to meet what DJ Henry brought to the table. You sit there and say, "I know its not like he had an eternity"... until you enter that fight or flight response, have had to make a split second, life or death decision, where you are reaching down to your most primal instincts to survive, you sir have no right to monday morning quarterback PO Hess's actions that night.
#8 - You think that just because you watch COPS, CSI, Law and Order, and all of these other garbage shows on TV that you are some kind of police tactics expert? You're right, no one had to die that night, DJ Henry made that decision when instead of following the directions of multiple uniformed police officers he chose to get behind the wheel while intoxicated. He chose to drive off and flee a police officer. He chose to drive into, and attempt to run over, another uniformed police officer. You keep calling everyone elses actions that night inappropriate, and you call DJ Henry's actions "a mistake". Give us a damn break, will you. I mean really, how ridiculous does that sound? He precipitated every single thing that happened that night, but he's the good kid who made a mistake and every one else that night was just a bunch of trigger happy pigs. I can tell you one thing for sure; you stated that you don't know if you would have pulled the trigger that night; I can tell you if you were a cop faced with that same situation, I'd have the unpleasant experience of having to go to your funeral then, plain and simple, and police funerals are the one thing that no cop ever wants to go to. You also stated, "keep someone alive by not shooting them." Absolutely, but not if that individual is trying to kill me. If someone is actively trying to kill me, I'm going to shoot them to stop them from killing me, that's just the way it is. I'm going home at the end of the night to my family, period, and at that point I'm only concerned with surviving, not find a nice touchy feely way to end the threat on my life just so the perpetrator can live. Shoot the engine block? Are you aware that handgun ammunition will not pass through an engine block, so good luck with that one Seagal. The military uses .50 caliber rifles to disable engine blocks on vehicles, you think a handgun bullet is going to disable a vehicle? Oh that's right, Steven Seagal and Bruce Willis do it all the time in the movies, so it must be true. Do you know how many police officers are killed or seriously injured every year in vehicle pursuits? Yes, lets engage a highly intoxicated individual in a vehicle pursuit because that doesn't have a high probability of ending in disaster. I can't help but laugh how you have the audacity to sit there behind your little computer screen and talk about police tactics and how the incident should have been handled. I say until you vest up and get out there and do the job, leave the tactics discussions to those of us who are actually out there doing the work, because the fantasy land of how you believe being a cop is based on some junk you watched on TV last night is typical for arm chair experts who mother f**ks the cops any chance they get until the day the wolf comes knocking at your door.

I don't give a s*** if dj henry was a rhodes scholar and he went to harvard, he tried to kill a cop, one of my brothers , and yes in my book that makes him a punk scumbag.
As far as pace goes, I've dealt with some of the worst lawyers in westchester who have graduated from pace, so pace doen't impress me.
No matter what the situation was in the bar that night, it doesn't change the fact that this kid was issued a lawful order by a police officer and instead of stopping, he refused the order and struck the police officer.
As far as the investigation goes, the DOJ monitered the entire thing and found nothing wrong with it, but i guess you know something they don't.
Shoot the engine block ? What are you dirty harry ? This suggestion shows your ignorance on all things law enforcement. You strike me as the type that thinks that because you watch cops and americas most wanted and you take a few pictures of police cars, that makes you knowledgeable... IT DOESN'T.....
You know nothing about traffic stops or who should be where or what the officers are feeling?
How many life or death situations have you been in? It seems like you shy away fom dangerous professions so I will say close to none so you have no clue how fast you have to make a decision and in this case it was a decision to use deadly force. Not only does PO Hess have to live with his decision for the rest of his life, he has to deal with people like you monday morning quarterbacking what he did. It's easy to second guess from the safety of your den or your living room isn't it ?
AS I reread your post to make sure I covered all of the points you tried to make, it seems that you have some type of blinders on to the truth and seem to have out your own twists to the story. You say he was already dead before he struck PO Hess, where did you get that from ? I never once heard that version of the story.
You are just an angry person with an axe to grind against law enforcement. I wonder if dj henry had God forbid struck and killed someone in your family while he was driving highly intoxicated back to the pace campus how much different you would feel.

LoHud
Terrible wording in this article. It is amazing that the press continues to get the story wrong. He did not drive out of the lot...he drove at a LEO in the lot.

As stated by peterose313 - "2. How many of you were actually there that night? Unless you were, you're going based on speculation and judging someone without knowing them. How can you call him a punk or a scumbag or anything? For all you know he was a great kid with good grades who made a mistake and a situation got completely blown out of proportion.
Yes I was there! As were a few others on this site.
I do not care what his grades were, he could be an A student for all I care. A mistake???? What happened that night was more than a mistake on his part. You say it was a situation that was blown out of proprtion.....you have no idea what that night was like.
Even if I was not there that night....i would still feel the same way!

You allready created an argument. Now support your reasons as to why you disagree with how things were handled.

How well do you know Officer Hess? I know Aaron well and he truly is a hero.

Going by what your profile says, you are not a cop and in no way affiliated with law enforcement but yet you see fit to come on this site and talk trash about a cop who was almost killed by some punk scumbag intoxicated kid.
When you go to the doctor do you second guess his diagnosis ? When you go to the accountant, do you tell him he is doing your taxes wrong ? The answer is probably no to all of these questions so why do you think it's o.k. to second guess a veteran professional police officer with extensive training and experience ?
You do realize that after a multijurisdictional probe and an extensive one at that and after having all the facts presented to a grand jury, all the officers involved in this case were cleared of any wrong doing correct ?
Cops work 8 hours a day getting s*** from people who don't agree with what we do or how we do our jobs, the last thing I want to do is get out of work, come home and look at EMTbravo and have to see the same nonsense that I get at work

Couldn't have said it better myself...

By saying Officer Hess is "far" from a hero you are implying (in the impersonal world of Internet chat) that he did something wrong.
So... Tell me sir, what would you do if someone ran you down and you were lucky enough to end up on the hood of the car and not under it and your sole means of neutralizing your life safety situation happened to be your firearm.......? Are you saying that you wouldn't pull the trigger?
Officer Hess is a hero because he chose a job that requires him to protect people like you and I every day. Officer Hess didn't jump on that car like Bo and Luke Duke but rather he was struck by the driver who was intoxicated and leaving the scene of an incident that Officer Hess was called to as part of his sworn duty to respond.

Disgusting.

ptwatson - I agree with you, it is a total defamation of character to Officer Hess. Al Sharpton, was here right after and left quickly,for him to not to be opening his mouth, he even knows!
They had a quote in Lohud, "I think it's amazing that so many celebrities can see through the lies that the Westchester D.A. and Mount Pleasant and Pleasantville police have put out there," Smith said.
Oh yeah because I know JayZ and kanye are on my list of top celebrities. How many other criminals get killed by cops, they don't all get a rap song? I love how he is still the victim here. Some people need a reality check.
Maybe instead of a rap song, his wonderful friends and "celebrities" can do some kind of awareness about underage drinking, driving while intoxicated and trying to run down a cop. I will always say it, everyone is lucky from that night it could have been a lot worse, but could have all been prevented!

P.O. Hess was engaging an armed advesary, DJ henry was armed with a 2 ton vehicle and was using it as a weapon against officer Hess. PO Hess thankfully put down the threat but was severly injured in the process having his knee cap pushed up into his thigh.
P.O. Hess saved countless lives that night by putting himself in harms way instead of letting a highly intoxicated driver drive through a crowded parking lot. P.O. Hess acted heroically and selflessly. He is a hero in my book and is deserving of a lot more than a medal.

I watched the documentary twice. Both times, I was left wondering the same things and left with same general feelings towards the movie.
One thing I noticed that was a little confusing was that Brian Schuler, the son who survived the crash said that (and I will paraphrase) that he remembers flying out of the vehicle like Superman. However, the witnesses (I believe two of them) mentioned that the children were piled on top of each other in the vehicle and Brian was on the bottom.
Also, I never heard anything in regards to the toll booth or EZ PASS camera footage. I would think that both of the tolls that she went through (Thruway & Tappan Zee Bridge) could be helpful in observing her behavior. Was this footage obtained and reviewed? Was it made public? Can toll booth footage be made public? I don't se why not...
The documentary mentioned the uncertainty about the roads Diane Schuler took after crossing the Tappan Zee Bridge. She may have taken the Saw Mill River Parkway, 9A, etc. The documentary mentioned that she may have taken the Taconic State Parkway north and then came back south on it (in the northbound lanes obviously). How so? The Taconic State Parkway does not exist that far down...it actually begins shortly before the wrecked.
Overall, I am not really sure how I feel about the quality and insightfulness of the documentary.

Nice shots. Great work by all involved!