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25 Firefighters, 30 mile repsonse. Lives on the line. Not Priceless

"Alright meow, check in with the IC, he wants you to stand by in the resource area for meow."
Super Trooper -- Meow

Going to try and make it. With the weather forecast of snow, will you guys be serving hot chocolate?

Like everything else ....it will be dismissed once a few phone calls are made to the police station, the mayor, or the judge.

Like everything else ....it will be dismissed once a few phone calls are made to the police station, the mayor, or the judge.

Like everything else ....it will be dismissed once a few phone calls are made to the police station, the mayor, or the judge.

If I recall correctly, most Westchester volunteer fire departments only had one or maybe two marked chief cars up to the mid 1990's. Chiefs without marked cars were given red light/siren packages to be installed in their personal vehicles. I think one reason departments got away from that was insurance, i.e the chief in his personal vehicle responding to a call gets in an accident. Whose insurance pays. I personally know a Pleasantville chief that lost his personal vehicle at a fire scene in the late 1970's due to an explosion/ flash over that set his car, the ladder and the patrol truck on fire. The department's insurance would not pay for the loss of the personal vehicle, even though it was being used on official business. Another problem encountered were many people did not want holes drilled into their cars to mount lights that would end up being removed when their term of chief was over. This led to discussions on vehicles being properly outfitted with lights that were visible from 360 degrees. A lesser problem was that of chief who used their red light/siren equipped personal vehicle to travel outside of the area or state. I know one volunteer was pulled over in Florida and forced by the Florida Highway Patrol to remove a lightbar mounted on his personal vehicle or face getting a summons, even with a cover marked "Out of Service".A move to department owned and marked vehicles led to a reduction of this, but opened can of worms being discussed here . You see the discussions here and on other forums about red light/siren equipped personal vehicles. People may know your the fire chief in your town, what happens when you drive a couple towns away?

If I recall correctly, most Westchester volunteer fire departments only had one or maybe two marked chief cars up to the mid 1990's. Chiefs without marked cars were given red light/siren packages to be installed in their personal vehicles. I think one reason departments got away from that was insurance, i.e the chief in his personal vehicle responding to a call gets in an accident. Whose insurance pays. I personally know a Pleasantville chief that lost his personal vehicle at a fire scene in the late 1970's due to an explosion/ flash over that set his car, the ladder and the patrol truck on fire. The department's insurance would not pay for the loss of the personal vehicle, even though it was being used on official business. Another problem encountered were many people did not want holes drilled into their cars to mount lights that would end up being removed when their term of chief was over. This led to discussions on vehicles being properly outfitted with lights that were visible from 360 degrees. A lesser problem was that of chief who used their red light/siren equipped personal vehicle to travel outside of the area or state. I know one volunteer was pulled over in Florida and forced by the Florida Highway Patrol to remove a lightbar mounted on his personal vehicle or face getting a summons, even with a cover marked "Out of Service".A move to department owned and marked vehicles led to a reduction of this, but opened can of worms being discussed here . You see the discussions here and on other forums about red light/siren equipped personal vehicles. People may know your the fire chief in your town, what happens when you drive a couple towns away?

Like you said in the Chiefs car post...this has been discussed before.
Consolidation is going to come to certain Depts. on LI in the future. The smaller Dept.s running under 300 alarms a year I would think in time will be merged with their larger neighbors. Gordon Heights is one that something must be done about. The tax is way out of line.
What is not mentioned is that in the long run it will not hurt response time, because whoever takes over the district will probably leave an Engine and ambulance in the station. The members would merge with the "other" Dept., membership would just wear a different patch on their class "A"'s. The firehouse would now say "XYZ Fire District" "Gordon Heights Fire Company".
My Dept. borders 2 very small Depts. If we were to "take over" those areas, in one case, we would keep the station and house an Engine and ambulance in it. The members would stay in their respective station or have an option to transfer to one of our other companies. The big problem would be for those Dept.s to loose Officers and Chiefs. But in the long run, they would be given a chance to advance in a larger Dept..
For a young kid just getting involved in the fire service who wouldnt want to be a part of a Dept. doing 1700 runs a year instead of 80-300 runs? It would be the older membership that would fight this tooth and nail.

Still the same, only its Putnam 911, and if you do not call on the radio in this manner most dispatchers will ignore your transmission. Same for calling on scene. Drives me nuts

This is why Bloombug wants our pensions....how much will this nonsense go over budget. How many firehouses will be closed, EMS tours cut, and police officers not hired to cover the cost overruns. Bloomburg I'm still sicking needles in my voodoo doll.

In the event of major fires, technical rescues and MCI's, Westchester County Departments that border the Bronx can rely upon mutual aid resources from F.D.N.Y.. But, there are probably more areas in N.Y.S. than not that would be hard pressed to deal with a major transportation incident (bus, train, commercial airliner) in a timely ('Golden Hour' ... if they still call it that ...) manner. As pointed out in this thread, such incidents require the immediate response of large numbers of Fire and EMS personnel for scene safety / hazard control, FAST, fire protection, patient care, gaining access, disentanglement, extrication, treatment and transportation of the injured. There are lot's of other issues that also need to be addressed (traffic & crowd control, coroner / temporary morgue, utility company, heavy tow, DOT and the list goes on). As has already been pointed out, this is not a shot at the individual knowledge, skills and dedication of Fire and EMS personnel in such locations ... it's just acknowledging the reality that many areas are not staffed and equipped to do what needs to be done when a 'nightmare' occurs in their response area.

Yes to both. The line was also called th Maybrook line. The Bridge at Rt 164 and Bullethole Road in Patterson is part of this line. The line originally two tracks but one was taken out at some point. The bridge knocked down did not carry track. Not that it mattered here, the train did not move that far west. THere are reports of a major washout on the Maybrook/Beacon Line in the Pawling area.

Due a washout affecting Metro North's Danbury Branch, near the Bethel Station. Approximately 125 feet of track was left suspended 20 feet in the air. Here is a link to some photos of the damage My link: http://www.goacre.com/Danbury_Washout.htm . As a result, Metro North had 5 locomotives and 25 coaches stranded in Danbury. Metro North decided to rescue the equipment by making a rare move across the Beacon Line to Brewster, NY The line also known as the Maybrook is owned by the Housatonic RR up to the NYS Border, where Metro North has ownership. This line runs parallel to Route 6, and then through Brewster, where a connection to the Harlem Line exists north of the Southeast Station. I was able to catch the movement of the final 3 locomotives and 13 coaches on Wednesday March9, 2011. Due to lack of maintenance, signals, and road crossing protection, the move was made a 10 mph. Here are the photos
Getting ready to depart Danbury

Traffic being flagged to stop for the train Cab Car 6306 is leading.

From what I have heard and read, about two weeks to fix the washout, and then reduced speeds until the new fill settles in.

Reading another forums, power from Ct to NY was provided only from the Genesis #222. From NY top Grand Central the 126 and 110 provided power.
Here is a video shot at Dykemans (near the RT 312 crossing by another photographer that was there.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TlOqhhh9_c

Yeah I followed it all the way, there were about 6 people that followed it stopping at various point, but all the photos shown are mine.

Now headed south on the Harlem Line. the two BL20GH's are working hard to get up to speed.

Crossing Route 312 in Brewster headed to Grand Central, where it ended up being spit back into three trains. The 110 with three coaches went to Croton Harmon, the #126 and three coaches came back up to Brewtser, and the #222 and 7 coaches went back into passenger service

Approaching the Crosby Ave crossing in Brewster

#110 bringing up the rear at Crosby Ave

The next and last road crossing was Pumphouse Road in Brewster

The first road crossing in New York was Joe's Hill Road, but the road itself is washed out

crossing the bridge over Route 6 in Brewster

On the trestle behind Brewster Honda

nearing the NYS Border

crossing an elevated section in Danbury

Behind the Shop n Stop in Mill Plain, CT

Passing under Route 6 near the restaurant "Rosy Tomorrows

Power was provided by three locomotives spread throughout the consist. P32-ACDM #222, BL-20GH #126, and BL-20GH # 110 on the rear

Due a washout affecting Metro North's Danbury Branch, near the Bethel Station. Approximately 125 feet of track was left suspended 20 feet in the air. Here is a link to some photos of the damage My link: http://www.goacre.com/Danbury_Washout.htm . As a result, Metro North had 5 locomotives and 25 coaches stranded in Danbury. Metro North decided to rescue the equipment by making a rare move across the Beacon Line to Brewster, NY The line also known as the Maybrook is owned by the Housatonic RR up to the NYS Border, where Metro North has ownership. This line runs parallel to Route 6, and then through Brewster, where a connection to the Harlem Line exists north of the Southeast Station. I was able to catch the movement of the final 3 locomotives and 13 coaches on Wednesday March9, 2011. Due to lack of maintenance, signals, and road crossing protection, the move was made a 10 mph. Here are the photos
Getting ready to depart Danbury

Traffic being flagged to stop for the train Cab Car 6306 is leading.

nearing the NYS Border