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I wish I had the time this evening to get on my soap box about duplication of apparatus in Westchester County and the need for a system that gave departments the ability to specialize in certain services rather than providing every service poorly. I just don't understand why the rest of America gets it and the NYC metro area doesn't.... Let one municipality deliver great rescue services and the next provide great truck company operations... So many places I can go with this. Time doesn't permit
With regard to Rescue Trucks.... Don't mistake a rescue truck for a rescue company...

This pretty much sums up the problem with the fire service in Westchester County....
The vast majority of departments in Westchester have no interest in talking to each other about best practices, resource sharing, and overall brainstorming. With the exception of Yonkers, White Plains, and maybe New Rochelle, there are few fires (even room and contents) that are covered by just one department.... But no one is open to listening to the educated opinion and discussion of their neighboring departments senior members.
Most Westchester County fire departments spend more time at other peoples fires than they do their own.... So by that fact alone your statement about spending less time worrying about everyone else is backward. What each department should do is find the departments that consistently run second due into their territory and get a fresh set of opinions on how things go and what can be done to improve. Doesn't mean you have to do what your neighbors say, but wouldn't it be valuable to hear it?

This pretty much sums up the problem with the fire service in Westchester County....
The vast majority of departments in Westchester have no interest in talking to each other about best practices, resource sharing, and overall brainstorming. With the exception of Yonkers, White Plains, and maybe New Rochelle, there are few fires (even room and contents) that are covered by just one department.... But no one is open to listening to the educated opinion and discussion of their neighboring departments senior members.
Most Westchester County fire departments spend more time at other peoples fires than they do their own.... So by that fact alone your statement about spending less time worrying about everyone else is backward. What each department should do is find the departments that consistently run second due into their territory and get a fresh set of opinions on how things go and what can be done to improve. Doesn't mean you have to do what your neighbors say, but wouldn't it be valuable to hear it?

This pretty much sums up the problem with the fire service in Westchester County....
The vast majority of departments in Westchester have no interest in talking to each other about best practices, resource sharing, and overall brainstorming. With the exception of Yonkers, White Plains, and maybe New Rochelle, there are few fires (even room and contents) that are covered by just one department.... But no one is open to listening to the educated opinion and discussion of their neighboring departments senior members.
Most Westchester County fire departments spend more time at other peoples fires than they do their own.... So by that fact alone your statement about spending less time worrying about everyone else is backward. What each department should do is find the departments that consistently run second due into their territory and get a fresh set of opinions on how things go and what can be done to improve. Doesn't mean you have to do what your neighbors say, but wouldn't it be valuable to hear it?

This pretty much sums up the problem with the fire service in Westchester County....
The vast majority of departments in Westchester have no interest in talking to each other about best practices, resource sharing, and overall brainstorming. With the exception of Yonkers, White Plains, and maybe New Rochelle, there are few fires (even room and contents) that are covered by just one department.... But no one is open to listening to the educated opinion and discussion of their neighboring departments senior members.
Most Westchester County fire departments spend more time at other peoples fires than they do their own.... So by that fact alone your statement about spending less time worrying about everyone else is backward. What each department should do is find the departments that consistently run second due into their territory and get a fresh set of opinions on how things go and what can be done to improve. Doesn't mean you have to do what your neighbors say, but wouldn't it be valuable to hear it?

This pretty much sums up the problem with the fire service in Westchester County....
The vast majority of departments in Westchester have no interest in talking to each other about best practices, resource sharing, and overall brainstorming. With the exception of Yonkers, White Plains, and maybe New Rochelle, there are few fires (even room and contents) that are covered by just one department.... But no one is open to listening to the educated opinion and discussion of their neighboring departments senior members.
Most Westchester County fire departments spend more time at other peoples fires than they do their own.... So by that fact alone your statement about spending less time worrying about everyone else is backward. What each department should do is find the departments that consistently run second due into their territory and get a fresh set of opinions on how things go and what can be done to improve. Doesn't mean you have to do what your neighbors say, but wouldn't it be valuable to hear it?

I-4 through Orlando has variable speed limits depending on time-of-day, weather conditions, and traffic flow. Honestly, it does nothing to help with traffic. People are still texting, picking their nose, or otherwise doing anything they possibly can to slow traffic down.

HA! LMAO. Is Larry Bremmer around? That was his favorite firefighting appliance!
On another note, the ISO process has awarded them with a rating of 2. This took into place manpower, equipment, water supply and rumor has it several special factors designed specifically for the Sound Shore by Capt. Nechis.... So they should be congratulated because their efforts will most likely have a direct result in insurance premiums paid by property owners and in these economic times even with the wealth in the area, every dollar counts!

The problem is that people use online forums without regard to the same courtesy as you would in person.
My suggestion is to post as if you were sitting in the day room or on the front bumper of a rig following a call. There is a lot of knowledge here.... Some new, some old, some by the book, some by experience... And a bucket full of tweeners. Don't take this blind opportunity to type as an excuse to get away with something you wouldn't have the balls to say to your peers face using the same tone. We all know that the web is full of "keyboard cowboys".
This being said, everyone loosen up when it comes to the down county career officers that pose tough questions on this forum. Much like a subscription to FireEngineering, these guys hold a wealth of knowledge that is every bit as valuable as a class. Stop fighting them on the issues that are known to plague the fire service and use them as a resource.
This is one of the few places in America where constructive conversation about emergency services exists and the moderators are spending too much time babysitting the few instigators and their counterparts with thin skin.

The problem is that people use online forums without regard to the same courtesy as you would in person.
My suggestion is to post as if you were sitting in the day room or on the front bumper of a rig following a call. There is a lot of knowledge here.... Some new, some old, some by the book, some by experience... And a bucket full of tweeners. Don't take this blind opportunity to type as an excuse to get away with something you wouldn't have the balls to say to your peers face using the same tone. We all know that the web is full of "keyboard cowboys".
This being said, everyone loosen up when it comes to the down county career officers that pose tough questions on this forum. Much like a subscription to FireEngineering, these guys hold a wealth of knowledge that is every bit as valuable as a class. Stop fighting them on the issues that are known to plague the fire service and use them as a resource.
This is one of the few places in America where constructive conversation about emergency services exists and the moderators are spending too much time babysitting the few instigators and their counterparts with thin skin.

The problem is that people use online forums without regard to the same courtesy as you would in person.
My suggestion is to post as if you were sitting in the day room or on the front bumper of a rig following a call. There is a lot of knowledge here.... Some new, some old, some by the book, some by experience... And a bucket full of tweeners. Don't take this blind opportunity to type as an excuse to get away with something you wouldn't have the balls to say to your peers face using the same tone. We all know that the web is full of "keyboard cowboys".
This being said, everyone loosen up when it comes to the down county career officers that pose tough questions on this forum. Much like a subscription to FireEngineering, these guys hold a wealth of knowledge that is every bit as valuable as a class. Stop fighting them on the issues that are known to plague the fire service and use them as a resource.
This is one of the few places in America where constructive conversation about emergency services exists and the moderators are spending too much time babysitting the few instigators and their counterparts with thin skin.

I don't think Chief Flynn intended any ill will with the question.... If someone said to me "lets put together a support drive for XYZ county" I would say great... Followed by a list of questions such as what do they need so that we're not inundating them with unneeded supplies, who is the best person on the receiving end to work through so that the items get delivered in a timely manner and don't sit unused only to be discarded after the emergency has passed, when is the best time to deliver them (making a delivery at night to a location that doesn't have power will only complicate things), what type of resources to the receiving party have to facilitate an offload or do we need to send enough manpower to do it... etc etc etc.
People like a story and they like details to go with it. I think that's where Chief Flynn was coming from.

I don't think Chief Flynn intended any ill will with the question.... If someone said to me "lets put together a support drive for XYZ county" I would say great... Followed by a list of questions such as what do they need so that we're not inundating them with unneeded supplies, who is the best person on the receiving end to work through so that the items get delivered in a timely manner and don't sit unused only to be discarded after the emergency has passed, when is the best time to deliver them (making a delivery at night to a location that doesn't have power will only complicate things), what type of resources to the receiving party have to facilitate an offload or do we need to send enough manpower to do it... etc etc etc.
People like a story and they like details to go with it. I think that's where Chief Flynn was coming from.

Given the extreme circumstances of what happened ten years ago, I'm curious as to folks opinion about shutting down EMTBravo for the day on Sunday in memory of those that were lost. There are so many things to be contemplated, remembered, mourned, and reflected upon that day, that posting here seems almost trivial. Maybe a simple message left when people navigate to the site that we are taking the day to remember.
I realize that this site is a conduit of information for many, so there are absolutely reasons to keep it running too.
I'd like some constructive conversation to follow. Please do not disrespect those lost by turning this into a circus. Think before you post.
God Bless
-Ed-

HA! LMAO. Is Larry Bremmer around? That was his favorite firefighting appliance!
On another note, the ISO process has awarded them with a rating of 2. This took into place manpower, equipment, water supply and rumor has it several special factors designed specifically for the Sound Shore by Capt. Nechis.... So they should be congratulated because their efforts will most likely have a direct result in insurance premiums paid by property owners and in these economic times even with the wealth in the area, every dollar counts!

The Captain is on the right track... Let me add though what is/was missing from this long discussed issue.... Which will absolutely shock everyone...
In reality this has exactly ZERO to do with Police Officers and Firemen.... That is correct... ZERO...
What is missed here that goes on every where else is that there are a******* in every line of work and that is what creates the issue. Cops and Firemen have been buddies for a century... It's just the jerks that screw it all up.

There are several factors that make finding an extra pilot for this aircraft difficult. First, it is a tri-jet with one engine mounted in the tail which creates a different flying experience as there is an additional thrust axis. BUT even if you could find a UPS or FedEx pilot (who are essentially the only domestic operators of the DC10 and MD11 airframe left, they would need to have an aerial firefighting certification. On top of that, this aircraft carries it's load of suppressant in an external pod which significantly alters the control dynamics of the airframe both from a pre and post drop weight distribution standpoint and aerodynamically.
I've way oversimplified this but folks should get the point
When however, this asset begins making drops, it will make a significant difference

The Captain is on the right track... Let me add though what is/was missing from this long discussed issue.... Which will absolutely shock everyone...
In reality this has exactly ZERO to do with Police Officers and Firemen.... That is correct... ZERO...
What is missed here that goes on every where else is that there are a******* in every line of work and that is what creates the issue. Cops and Firemen have been buddies for a century... It's just the jerks that screw it all up.

The Captain is on the right track... Let me add though what is/was missing from this long discussed issue.... Which will absolutely shock everyone...
In reality this has exactly ZERO to do with Police Officers and Firemen.... That is correct... ZERO...
What is missed here that goes on every where else is that there are a******* in every line of work and that is what creates the issue. Cops and Firemen have been buddies for a century... It's just the jerks that screw it all up.

The Captain is on the right track... Let me add though what is/was missing from this long discussed issue.... Which will absolutely shock everyone...
In reality this has exactly ZERO to do with Police Officers and Firemen.... That is correct... ZERO...
What is missed here that goes on every where else is that there are a******* in every line of work and that is what creates the issue. Cops and Firemen have been buddies for a century... It's just the jerks that screw it all up.

I disagree. That attitude signals a defeat to the dirt that started all of this. People should go about their lives doing what they want to do. If you want to be in the city then so be it. If not no one will blame you. Dont let the most gracious nation in the world let a bunch of cave dwellers prevent us from congregating on our own soil. You are free to travel to any corner of our nation at your own will. Do not surrender that right to these folks by broadcasting a discouraging tone.
Be aware and vigilant. Do not drop your guard. Do not surrender our freedom by cowering in our own back yards. Let the world know we are still here next week by not resting in the shadows!!!!

The best combination was about 15 (give or take) years ago when you could get a wire framed pak with a carbon composite 4.5... no options just a pass alarm... That was the lightest pak I've ever worn and like you I've been through 2200's with steel bottles and survivair's with similar sized 2200 bottles all the way up to the current dumbbell that is out there.

The best combination was about 15 (give or take) years ago when you could get a wire framed pak with a carbon composite 4.5... no options just a pass alarm... That was the lightest pak I've ever worn and like you I've been through 2200's with steel bottles and survivair's with similar sized 2200 bottles all the way up to the current dumbbell that is out there.

Totally get your frustration but the pics do most of us a lot more good than the trivial nonsense that goes back and forth with a relative few posters. Please don't stop posting photos. Lately the bickering is cleared up relatively quickly by the moderators, yourself inlcuded.

Totally get your frustration but the pics do most of us a lot more good than the trivial nonsense that goes back and forth with a relative few posters. Please don't stop posting photos. Lately the bickering is cleared up relatively quickly by the moderators, yourself inlcuded.