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What do you so called "experts" know anyway?

What do you so called "experts" know anyway?

Bro you realize that M'Ave is an FDNY jake that turns out of a busy station in The Bronx right?  Sounds like your're trying to argue with someone who has made multiple posts in this thread about experiencing the benefit of the pilot program first hand.
 
What's your end game here?

 
YOU'RE finding out now, because experts are telling you.  WE'VE known for some time now, seeing as we work in this system and have been for quite some time.  This flycar thing AINT that new.

 

 

What doesn't make sense? 

Did you even read the article or at least the portion posted? 
 
Even if "the roads will still be congested", the fact that a fly car is closer to a call than an ambulance means that ALS equipped EMS personnel will likely reach the patient sooner.  It clearly states that response times in that area are down in conjunction with this program.  That certainly seems like a good thing and it's literally change.
 
 

Did you even read the article or at least the portion posted? 
 
Even if "the roads will still be congested", the fact that a fly car is closer to a call than an ambulance means that ALS equipped EMS personnel will likely reach the patient sooner.  It clearly states that response times in that area are down in conjunction with this program.  That certainly seems like a good thing and it's literally change.
 
 

 

Did you even read the article or at least the portion posted? 
 
Even if "the roads will still be congested", the fact that a fly car is closer to a call than an ambulance means that ALS equipped EMS personnel will likely reach the patient sooner.  It clearly states that response times in that area are down in conjunction with this program.  That certainly seems like a good thing and it's literally change.
 
 

Did you even read the article or at least the portion posted? 
 
Even if "the roads will still be congested", the fact that a fly car is closer to a call than an ambulance means that ALS equipped EMS personnel will likely reach the patient sooner.  It clearly states that response times in that area are down in conjunction with this program.  That certainly seems like a good thing and it's literally change.
 
 

Did you even read the article or at least the portion posted? 
 
Even if "the roads will still be congested", the fact that a fly car is closer to a call than an ambulance means that ALS equipped EMS personnel will likely reach the patient sooner.  It clearly states that response times in that area are down in conjunction with this program.  That certainly seems like a good thing and it's literally change.
 
 

The reason for the residency credit is pretty simple.  It gives the NYC residents a "small" edge over the out of towners.  
 
I suspect that historically the non-resident applicant pool is predominantly white & male.  The city is trying to inject diversity into the department.  The city has a large non-white population and a lot of females.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

The reason for the residency credit is pretty simple.  It gives the NYC residents a "small" edge over the out of towners.  
 
I suspect that historically the non-resident applicant pool is predominantly white & male.  The city is trying to inject diversity into the department.  The city has a large non-white population and a lot of females.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

I was a victim of Affirmative Action in Bridgeport, Ct. That was back in the mid 70s. Boston was also going through a similar case at the time.
 
Apparently according to these cities, some people just didn't look the way they wanted them to in order to do the job as a firefighter. So in order to do the job that I grew up wanting to do, "just like my father", I had to pack my bags and leave. Leaving my family, my friends, and the only city and home I ever knew.
 
 I had ended up in some city about 75 miles away. In a place I had never been before. As it turned out, it was my gain and Bridgeport's loss. Within a few months I was able to buy a beautiful home that I never would have found in that Bridgeport area.
 
 There were old buildings there just like Bridgeport and they even had a ladder truck with a driver on the back too, just like Bridgeport. With a little extra work, I was able to get promoted and today I enjoy my retirement after 30 years with that fire department.
 
 My father was a firefighter in Bridgeport too. And one of his captains was a guy who looked much different than the rest of the guys. But it didn't matter because he was very well respected by the members throughout the department. and unlike so many others who came later, he earned his promotion and it wasn't just given to him.
 
 I am totally AGAINST any type of Affirmative Action or job offerings based solely on the way a person looks. Although I am NOT any kind of racist and I have facts to prove that.

The reason for the residency credit is pretty simple.  It gives the NYC residents a "small" edge over the out of towners.  
 
I suspect that historically the non-resident applicant pool is predominantly white & male.  The city is trying to inject diversity into the department.  The city has a large non-white population and a lot of females.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

Oh, there's absolutely an agenda in play with the FDNY testing.  It's blatantly apparent to anyone who's been following the litigation referenced in the article and other recent actions, like the female that was allowed to graduate despite not passing a required physical test.

Oh, there's absolutely an agenda in play with the FDNY testing.  It's blatantly apparent to anyone who's been following the litigation referenced in the article and other recent actions, like the female that was allowed to graduate despite not passing a required physical test.

They aren't talking about equality between residents/non-residents.  It's pretty much strictly about race and maybe some gender.

Oh, there's absolutely an agenda in play with the FDNY testing.  It's blatantly apparent to anyone who's been following the litigation referenced in the article and other recent actions, like the female that was allowed to graduate despite not passing a required physical test.

You have to keep in mind what's typically driving this.  Many municipalities are making significant changes as a result of the various lawsuits regarding hiring practices.  They are trying to avoid being the next one to be sued.  They are more worried about making it appear that they are trying to diversify than making sure they have quality recruits.

You have to keep in mind what's typically driving this.  Many municipalities are making significant changes as a result of the various lawsuits regarding hiring practices.  They are trying to avoid being the next one to be sued.  They are more worried about making it appear that they are trying to diversify than making sure they have quality recruits.

Considering their recruit training program and probationary process, prior firefighting knowledge while likely beneficial, isn't specifically necessary for a recruit to succeed in that system.  To some extent, entry level civil service exams aren't specifically for testing job specific knowledge, but rather to evaluate a person's general knowledge, reading comprehension, ability to follow directions, ability to solve problems, etc.
 
Personally, I don't see a problem with this as long as the test is adequately assessing a candidate's mental aptitude for what is needed to complete recruit school and perform the job vs dumbing down the exam in order to achieve diversity at the expense of quality.

Considering their recruit training program and probationary process, prior firefighting knowledge while likely beneficial, isn't specifically necessary for a recruit to succeed in that system.  To some extent, entry level civil service exams aren't specifically for testing job specific knowledge, but rather to evaluate a person's general knowledge, reading comprehension, ability to follow directions, ability to solve problems, etc.
 
Personally, I don't see a problem with this as long as the test is adequately assessing a candidate's mental aptitude for what is needed to complete recruit school and perform the job vs dumbing down the exam in order to achieve diversity at the expense of quality.