eric12401

In a word, yes but there is a much larger risk of an Earthquake under New York City than a tsunami ever hitting the East Coast. Without going to deep into the geophysics and geology of the issue, the tectonic plate that comprises the entire East Coast and all the US upto California is moving away from its boardering plates. This creates a rift valley (the mid-atlantic trench). The rift valley is fairly stable because that is where the new oceanic crust is formed from the magma bellow. Where this earthquake, creating the tsunami occurred is at a subduction zone, where one plate flows under another. These are significantly less stable, especially in Japan where a heavier oceanic crust is flowing under a lighter continental crust. The rift valley that is forming in the atlantic is where two oceanic crusts with similar densities are splitting apart. Basically, there are significantly different geologic processes occurring in the Atlantic vs. the Pacific. This crustal movement is why we find different types of fossils on different continents, essentially where the land masses are currently is not where they were 100 million years ago, which is not where they were 500 million years ago, which is not where they were 1 billion years ago, which is not where they where 4 billion years ago. While you can not say that it will never happen, the planetary forces that are at work, and have been at work since the dawn of time make it very, very unlikely, but not impossible.
If anyone wants my sources or links or any further info PM me because I really do not want to get too in-depth with the science here because it really is very technical and unless you really do know what is being discussed, it will not make any sense to you and actually confuse you more. The only reason I commented is because this is one aspect of a larger topic my advisor and professors have been studying for 30 years.

his royal bloomturd has gone crazy, how about use the money to bring back the 5th man and not layoff cops and teachers, just a thought.... Put that money where it counts, I thank god I left working for NYC.

Come on guys be constructive and have some respect for the men and women who lost their lives.
No matter where this accident occured fire companies would have done the best job they were capable of doing.
What is the point of comparing a small department like PM to the FDNY?
How about someone starts a thread educating first responders that read this site that the roof construction of these coach buses are thin sheetmeatal over foam which can easily be cut with a sawsall? Is that information possibly a bit more valuable than most of the nonsense above?

Why the inflammatory response to people who are just asking questions? From what I've heard, FDNY did a great job managing the incident. However, to insinuate that us "upstaters" would be blowing chow if we came upon a similar incident is just ridiculous. I can remember as far back as 1989 when a bunch of volunteers assisted by a small (at the time) commercial EMS service, managed a school collapse and had all the patients to definitive care within 60 minutes. FDNY is very well trained, but they don't hold the patent on capable responders.

Is this a dig? If so, it's not particularly constructive... In fact, there is nothing funny about it, but it raises a real concern.
This is not to call into question the dedication of a particular organization's firemen, nor their professionalism and drive. Really, it doesn't need to be discussed in relation to ANY particular fire department. What an MCI such as this might highlight is a need for an MCI response plan that includes multiple agencies......or some kind of consolidation to form a larger agency with the means and necessity for more equipment.
I did not respond to this box yesterday, but I was at work and listening. There were an incredible amount of units on the scene to mitigate this disaster. Rescues 3 and 4 operated including, at least Collapse Rescue 3. That's 12 firemen, on top of an entire first alarm assignment. 39 pairs of hands. Add to that a few chief's and their aides, plus ESU and a FAST truck (Which sounds like a good idea to me when you have members working in a large, unstable and overturned bus). Top that off with 10+ EMS units, FDNY RAC 4 with temp. morgue set-up and Haz-Mat 1 to manage the fuel containment. That was all within the first few minutes. Many more followed. I'm sure you can up the tally with a great deal of DOT and Police units.
All of these resources and they had their hands full. These are people used to working together with a great deal of equipment at their disposal. More equipment than most Westchester Dept's. (outside of the bigger cities, Yonkers, NR, ect) have. So, what do you do? Who calls for what units and equipment? This seems like a perfect example of a need to utilize some kind of automatic response matrix with multiple F.D., P.D. and EMS agencies with a predetermined I.C. to maintain organization.
Clearly, and thankfully, this is an oddball event and no one knows exactly what to expect or how to perfectly handle each incident. However, it would be a good idea to consider what MIGHT be needed so that the proper personnel and apparatus are alerted quickly.

Tom, your faith in Pelham Manor is admirable but be realistic. What does Pelham Manor have on duty, one and one with two guys each? No rescue, no EMS but a contract bus. Mutual aid would get you more stuff but how fast and how organized and disciplined would it be? New Rochelle has a rescue, 3 more guys. FDMV has one (I think), 3 more guys. Call Yonkers and you'll get some real help but its at least 20-25 minutes away if the call was quick. Then what? You can piece together a response but you'll be spending more time figuring out who to call from where then you'll spend being the IC.
Look at what NYC sent to the scene (not counting PD that had at least four ESU trucks there or EMS):
By my rough count its about 120 firefighters including bosses. What would it take to muster that anywhere in Westchester or the rest of the Hudson Valley? Add to that the expertise and experience that the city guys have. Again not a knock on the guys from Westchester but NYC does more in a month than some jobs do in a year.
They had everyone extricated in a hour and I bet most of them transported in that time too. Have you ever been to an airport exercise in Westchester? They can't transport that many people in an hour during an exercise. Imagine reality.

Date: 3/13/2011
Time:1:11am
Location: 134-145 St. James St and 83 Garden St
Frequency:
Units Operating: Kingston Fire, Ulster Hose, Port Ewen, Bloomington, Glasco, Mount Marion Fast Team, and Rheinbeck
Weather Conditions:Dark cold
Description Of Incident:Multiple Structure Fire
Reporters/Writer:shadow12083, JetPhoto
City of Kingston was working at a Structure Fire on St James St and then at about 1:33am they were toned out for a second structure fire on Garden St.
If any one has better log of events, feel free to PM and I will happily add the details.
Rhinebeck FD mutual aid request for ladder truck to Standby in Ulster Hose quaters
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Date: 3-12-2011
Time: 06:04
Location: New England southbound at Hutchinson River Parkway
Frequency: FDNY Bronx Dispatch
Units Operating: FDNY Bronx; NYPD; NYPD ESU
Weather Conditions: Chilly
Description Of Incident: Major bus crash involving an overturned bus carrying 32 persons. 13 black tag, 6 red, 2 yellow and 11 green on-scene. 1 person died at Jacobi
Reporters/Writer: PFDRes47cue, pcfpr1

Rundown:
Engine 63, 97, 61, 66, 89, 90
Ladder 39, 50, 32 (F.A.S.T.), 27 (Collapse Rig), 61, 37, 41
Rescue 3, 4
Battalion 20, 27
Division 7

06:04 hours
B20: All hands for an overturned tour bus. 32 persons on board. 6 10-37 code 1.
L32 Fast
B27
RAC 3
06:06 hours
B20: Special request 2 additional trucks, mixer off.
L41, L37 s/c
06:10 hours
D7: Request 2 additional CFR-D engines
E89, E90 s/c
Disp confirmed to Rescue Battalion that second rescue (R4) was assigned to the box.
06:19 hours
Car 13 adam responding to the overturned bus.
06:25 hours incident duration 47 minutes
D7: 20 people removed from the bus, attempting to remove the rest. Continuing to use all hands, incident is doubtfull will hold.
06:31 hours
Car 1B is 10-84
FC: Division 7 requests an expedited reponse by Con-ed.
06:38 hours Duration 1 hour and 1 minute
FC: New England southbound at Hudson River Parkway. Division 7 reports extrication still in progress. 12 black tag, 5 red tag, 4 yellow tag and 9 green tag.
06:48 hours duration 1 hour and 11 minutes
FC: Major casualty MVA involving an overturned bus, New England southbound at Hudson River Parkway. Division 7 reports 32 victims removed from the bus. 13 black tag, 6 red, 2 yellow and 11 green. Probably will hold.
07:01 hours duration 1 hour and 24 minutes
FC: Major casualty MVA involving an overturned bus, New England southbound at Hudson River Parkway. Car 13 adam reports 32 victims removed from the bus. Secondary searches are complete and negative, incident is now under control.
07:07 hours
D7: Request squad and second piece to deal with fuel from the accident
Hazmat 1, Squad 41, Hazmat Battalion s/c
07:15 hours
D7: Releasing the two rescues, they will go 10-8 when available.

There are differences in many things as you move from region to region in the United States; income, accents, history, culture, politics, demographics, etc., etc., etc. The question you raise is not merely applicable to law enforcement. There are vast differences between New York and Texas. I don't think the differences are as great as you believe nor do I think you properly articulated your argument without disparaging cops in NY and the northeast.
I think there is something to be said for the anti-police, anti-government sentiment in the northeast being a contributing factor to your supposition. I think as the country tried to become more politically correct and public service changed from being a calling to a secure job with benefits, we lost some of the service focus that contributed to law enforcement being what it used to be. There are still many hard-chargers in civil service but there are now an equal number of deadbeats just studying for promotional exams with no concept of the job and/or using the stability to advance their education for their next job.
You're flat out wrong about some things. Cops in ESU aren't trying to be firefighters and who says that rescue is a fire function? ESU predates many of the FD rescue resources in Westchester County. Yonkers E-rigs of the 80's were the first paramedics in the city and had the only extrication equipment for many years. The County PD ran an ESU that provided extrication services all over the county before a lot of FD's got their own hurst tools. ESU is not the same as SWAT either. The LAPD runs SWAT but they don't do most of the things that ESU cops do - it is an apples and oranges comparison. In Jersey City, extrications are performed by EMS not fire or PD. White Plains has a police / fire special operations command that works collaboratively.
Duplicating resources? Are you kidding me? You really think that ESU in the couple of cities that have them in Westchester are the duplicative resources and squandering the funding that exists for emergency services. Hmmm, the 59 fire departments, 43 police departments, 60 or so school districts are definitely not duplicative. Who says that EMS is a fire function? PD is an first responder and in many places they are the only BLSFR that responds. We've already covered in other threads that BLSFR is not strictly limited to PD or FD exclusively.
OK, who decides what the core responsibilities are? What do you do when an agency can't/won't/doesn't fulfill it's core responsibilites? Competition exists on many levels in public service and it can be healthy. There are plenty of examples of intra-disciplinary rivalries that are unhealthy; you're broad sweeping generalizations about inter-disciplinary relationships and responsibilities are way off base.
Pity there isn't a negative rep button anymore. Comparing patrol cops in Texas with ESU cops in NY or asserting that certain functions don't have cross-over between disciplines is way off base. There should be collaboration and less division and that's not strictly a PD/FD thing.

Ive read this post many times and I still fail to see the reason for posting it but it most certainly requires a response.
From what I know of you, you have no background in Law Enforcement so your ideas of how cops should feel about being cops and what they should do on duty may be how it is in a perfect world but in reality thats not how it works. This would be like me who knows nothing of fire fighting making critical observations about the fire service and putting all over the post " No offense guys" and " this is not a knock to firefighters".
As far as I've seen, you're the only member on here from texas so you are the only one who could answer your own question of " why are police officers down here so different ?"
I've been a cop for 12 years and I go balls to the wall every day I go into work as do most cops I know. Would it be nice to follow up with every crime victim we deal with ? Yes but we don't have the time or the manpower to do that stuff. How do you know that cops up here don't know their post as well as cops in Texas ?
Cops are in a unique situation to be cross trained in rescue, where as FD's can't be trained in law enforcement specific things... thats just the way it is.
You ask why is there competition ? There always has and always will be competiton in the emergency services and it's healthy to a degree.
You ask why are there not more hudson river patrols ? There are in the summer but not so much in the winter but what does one thing have to do with the other ?
The bottom line is that expanding the scope of your working capabilities means more job security and possibly more state and federal funding.
The biggest difference between cops up here and cops in texas is that maybe cops in texas enjoy a lot more community support than cops in the north east get.

Having lived in Austin, Texas for over three years now after living in Hartsdale, NY for 28, and having worked with law enforcement agencies in both areas, I've noticed something.
THIS IS IN NO WAY A KNOCK AT POLICE OFFICERS, JUST MY OPINION AND OBSERVATION
Down here, cops want to be cops. They want to go out and make arrests, do felony stops, nab DWI and aggresive drivers, etc. They go out and find work, or are dispatched to it-work is plentiful. They follow up with previous victims, and take pride in the sector they work, and knowing it well. They'll help the FD when needed, but they don't duplicate any services. In fact, they get along quite well in most jurisdictions. Most have no interest in firefighting or doing anything the FD's doing. In fact, most people pursue either a law enforcement, EMS, or FD career. People just don't take tests until they are offered something.
It seems like Police Officers in NYC Metro area want to be into everything. Several muncipalities not only have ESU, but some have technical rescue teams, etc. Now, given the infastructure in NY, that's no a bad thing. But someone, seemingly an ESU officer, make some observations about a recent rope rescue Yonkers FD was involved in, which led me to thinking.
I believe STRONGLY in the ESU concept, however I think they should be more focused on tactical operations and supporting other law enforcement endeavors then tying themselves up with what the FD's already doing. These are highly trained police officers, with special equipment. Why tye them up on something the FD is already doing, and why is it a competition? Why are there more officers interested in getting rope certification then assualt rifle certification? Why aren't there more officers assigned to Hudson River patrols? ESU does a great job, but they should really be there for law enforcement work. I mean, I could understand having to rapell to get to a suicide victim or for SWAT purposes, but for rescuing stranded workers from a ledge...that's what the firefighters signed up to do.
Which leads me to wonder, why in the northeast, with less police officers, funding being cut, and crime rising, would officers want to deal with things beyond the law enforcement scope? Why would they want to direct funding towards equipment the FD already has and duplicate services? I know a lot is grant-funded, but if you don't need it let it go to someone who does. I think money would be better spent on having more K-9 units.
Why do officers down here have such a focused law enforcement different mentality, and in NY they want to do everything? I don't see firefighters wanting guns and handcuffs. Cops should be proud and excited that they are cops, and should take every bad guy off the streeet they can.
In certain situations, PD should work with FD, like in HazMat situations. And in certain places, like NYPD's Transit Bureau, should have confined space training, since going into tunnels to shoo them of transients and patrol, is part of their job.
Again, this is not a knock at LEO's, this does not apply to all LEO's, just some comparitive thoughts. I think cops in both areas do a great job at whatever they are assigned to do, I just see such a profound difference from down here to up there.

Date: 3/7/2011
Time: 19:46
Location: 50 Nissen Ln
Frequency: 33.48, 46.46, 45.88
Units Operating: West Hurley FD, Woodstock FD, Kingston FD Hazmat
Weather Conditions: cold, dark, wet
Description Of Incident: Hazmat Incident
Reporters/Writer:shadow12083
19:46 West Hurley members respond to respective station and await orders
19:52 2nd alarm for all available interior personal and a 2nd ambulance to the scene
19:53 Kingston hazmat 1 to the scene
19:58 3rd alarm for all available SCBA certified personal and 1 ambulance from Woodstock
20:20 Mobile Life enroute for standby for Hazmat 1

CAREFUL! You might say it was easy....but is it fair to everyone based purely on racial background?!?! Only the results will tell! You're excellent score, a result of studying for a love of the job no doubt, might not mean a THING! If the job wasn't simply handed to enough of the right people, you might be put into the "second class category" of people who tried hard. You silly bunch!
I hope everyone finds my anger and frustration to be but, thinly veiled...

This is shameful, but it's what I have come to expect from today's GOP. Politicians like the wimpy, cry baby Rep. John Boehner who have no respect for Cops, Firefighters or the military. He's never placed himself in harm's way to protect his country or another human being. He stood with the GOP when they held The Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Bill hostage while demanding that Democrats join the GOP in extending tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of Americans. After getting the tax breaks for their wealthy corporate campaign supporters, they subsequently cut the funding for Zadroga in half before passing it. BTW, Rep. John Boehner didn't even stay in Washington to vote on the final bill which occurred on December 22nd, 2010. He along with many other GOP rich kids had already gone home to celebrate Christmas with their families. I wonder what it feels like to walk away from your responsibilities as an elected public servant whenever you feel like it, leaving your work undone. As a Firefighter, I wouldn't know that feeling, nor did I ever have the desire to abandon my responsibilities for my personal enjoyment ... Rep. John Boehner is a disgrace.
Thank you for your service to our country Mr. Buckles ... May you rest in peace ...

I have something that is worth posting here and is something I want all of you to read and really think about. This was forwarded to me by a friend. This was written by Meriden, CT, Battalion Chief Burdick.
These are words that I whole heartily beleive in and held true in my profession being a firefighter, from the time I started volunteering my service to my present career in the fire services. Next time when you use the term "Brotherhood" stop and think about it for a second and ask yourself how you use the term, live up to your actions, consider your self part of the Brotherhood. I see the term used often here, but are you truly in the brotherhood?
Just think.

No, he was off. Ironically, he and R1's Captain looked at the scaffold the other day and pre-planned it. But neither were working. The man who went down on the rope, FF Mike Giroux is one of the best. He has trained extensively with the YFD, the FDNY Rescue and others and is well thought of by our members.

We are talking 1800's not 1960's....I thought it was only short term memory that goes after you retire.
Do not collect $200....go directly to jail

Hi, my name is John I am a retired Fire Fighterfrom the PortChesterF.D. 1969-1990 also former Paramedic with Abbey Richmond Ambulance.I am also a Reisterde Nurse and worked for many years in the ER at United Hospital in Port Chester

I would also have to agree. As a safety professional in a buisness/construction/property management setting, I create, implement and review different safety practices throughout our company, and have a good grasp on the "Risk vs. Benefit" of accomplishing tasks. My company has an extremely strong safety culture, one who's motto is "There is no job so important, that we cannot take the time to do it safely." Now this motto can be applied to the fire service as well, and before I get lashed out on for being "overly cautious," hear me out.
Safety culture, training, pre-task safety analysis's, job hazard analysis, permits, and numerous safety controls from engineering the hazard out (first line of defense) to PPE (your last line of defense) are all items that I use, and make sure my employees are going to follow, before a job is ever started. All of this takes time, a lot of effort, and cannot be done in a safe manor if in 2 minutes a job pops up and work begins. All of this needs to be in place before the job ever starts, so everyone is on the same page. This can be directly related to the fire service too.
The culture of the department will immediatly dictate how aggressive, or defensive your attack on a fire will be, and will be very hard to change throughout your career in that particular department. You can have a culture that is hell bent on training in all aspects day in and day out, keeping up with the "Jones'" when it comes to new techniques and being a very aggressive interior department, who will not stop to protect the lives property of others until you're reaching the breaking point of unsafe; or you can have a culture of well we're not going to do anything that will put our lives in jeopardy when we arrive, so we'll train by watching video after video with bare minimum hands on training. Either of the attitudes will set in motion how the outcome of the fire will play out. Once you arrive on scene, your holes are already aligned, and you pretty much know whether you will be saving the foundation, or stopping the fire at a room and contents job.
By training prior to the alarm ever coming in, practicing what jobs you will be completing as the 1st/2nd/3rd due in and understanding the different dynamics of an always changing scene, you've already begun to lower your risk by a considerable amount.
We have a very important job in the fire service, to protect lives and property. To me, that is the most important and job you could ever think of being employed to do. If you practice before you arrive on scene, and train as an aggressive department, you have already taken the time to do your job safely. Your OIC should have total faith that the guys he is sending to the structure are going to get the job done and know when it is time to say "Hey Chief, it's really bad in there, we need to get out." If there is any doubt in his mind, then we haven't taken the time before the job came in to explain how the job needs to be operated. Any fireman should be able to roll up to a scene, look at the situation presented to him and immediately say either "We're gonna get a good stop on this, or we've lost the house already." That comes with training and experience, not being over cautious.
Even in the fire service "There is no job so important, that we cannot take the time to do it safely." Train every day brothers, even if its just driving down the street and thinking about apparatus placement. I hope my ramble makes any sense at all.

Toys R Us - White Plains

I think this soldier deserves more consideration from our membership, so I just want to point out here on the board, that Mr. Buckles was THE LAST American left on this earth to have served in World War I. Maybe we'll get more clicks on the article and more comments.
We as a nation have gone so far from the dark days of the early twentieth century when our countrymen experienced so much hardship. From incomprehensible casualties and the cruelty of chemical weapons and trench warfare that was the horror of World War I, to terrible times back here in the Motherland of a collapsed economy, and people migrating all over through "The Grapes of Wrath", homeless and hungry until they reached a soup kitchen.
110 years for Mr. Buckles. He witnessed all of the twentieth century, served our country, and became a symbol of the gallant and brave young men America sent overseas to fight and die for a better world.
Rest in Peace Sir, you earned it many many decades ago.

Here are some of the pictures "Mrs." SteveOFD took of Monday mornings fire.

The 5" supply line from the hydrant toward the scene.

Just short of the scene.

There was snow to contend with that morning.

Ladder 42 working at maybe it's last job.

Crew operating on the D side.

Engine 97 dropped it's whole hosebed.

Engine 96 pumping from a larger main from Wolden Road up Underhill Road.

The 5" line coming up Underhill Rd. from Engine 96.

The 5" line continues up Underhill Rd.

The 5" line up to Engine 99 for relay.

Engine 99 at the relay pumping to Engine 97. Approximately 800' from Engine 96, and then approximately 700' to Engine 97.
Mrs. SteveOFD walked up to the scene to ask if I wanted my camera. I told her I was working the job (at E99 pumping), but if she wanted to take some pictures she could. These pictures were taken as any civilian could have, she was granted no special access beyond what any civilian could have gotten.

Date: 2-26-11
Time: 1340
Location: Hudson River off of the Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge
Frequency: 33.48, 46.46, 155.025
Units Operating: East Kingston FD, Glasco FD, Ulster Hose FD, Woodstock FD, Ruby FD, Mobile Life Support, UCSO Dive Team, Coast Guard, Ulster PD, NYSP, Air-2
Weather Conditions: Sunny, cool
Description Of Incident: Personal aircraft into the Hudson River.
Reporters/Writer: eric12401, JetPhoto
1340 - East Kingston respond with all equipment to a plane crash into the Hudson River. Glasco with their boat, Ulster Hose with 61-17 and their Dive Team, Ulster County Sheriff's Office with their Dive Team.
1343 - Coast Guard notified, will be deploying a cutter shortly.
1345 - Staging area will be at Charles Rider Park off of Ulster Landing Rd.
1346 - Police requesting to shut down the Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge.
1347 - Kingston-Ulster Airport reporting it was a personal aircraft.
1348 - Saugerties Coast Guard reporting their cutter is out of service.
1349 - State Police launching a helicopter for a rescue mission.
1350 - Woodstock Co. 4 with their hovercraft to the scene.
1354 - A cutter from Norrie Point (?) en route with a 45 minute ETA. Air-2 en route.
1401 - Ruby with 1 engine to standby at East Kingston station #1. Reports of a large barge moving northbound from Newburgh.
1405 - Car 56 reporting a personal jet with 1 subject, debris field in the river.
1411 - Air-2 and NYSP helicopter on scene
1419 - Ulster Hose with fire police to assist with traffic control at the intersection of Rt. 9w and Rt. 199
~1420 - NYSP Aviation reporting plane half under, appears fatal. Air boat en route from NYSP in Albany.
1423 - Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge reopened.
http://dailyfreeman.com/articles/2011/02/26/news/doc4d69516c83a00219327959.txt
UPDATE: http://dailyfreeman.com/articles/2011/02/27/news/doc4d69c42f0b5de677419944.txt

Date: 2-26-11
Time: 1340
Location: Hudson River off of the Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge
Frequency: 33.48, 46.46, 155.025
Units Operating: East Kingston FD, Glasco FD, Ulster Hose FD, Woodstock FD, Ruby FD, Mobile Life Support, UCSO Dive Team, Coast Guard, Ulster PD, NYSP, Air-2
Weather Conditions: Sunny, cool
Description Of Incident: Personal aircraft into the Hudson River.
Reporters/Writer: eric12401, JetPhoto
1340 - East Kingston respond with all equipment to a plane crash into the Hudson River. Glasco with their boat, Ulster Hose with 61-17 and their Dive Team, Ulster County Sheriff's Office with their Dive Team.
1343 - Coast Guard notified, will be deploying a cutter shortly.
1345 - Staging area will be at Charles Rider Park off of Ulster Landing Rd.
1346 - Police requesting to shut down the Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge.
1347 - Kingston-Ulster Airport reporting it was a personal aircraft.
1348 - Saugerties Coast Guard reporting their cutter is out of service.
1349 - State Police launching a helicopter for a rescue mission.
1350 - Woodstock Co. 4 with their hovercraft to the scene.
1354 - A cutter from Norrie Point (?) en route with a 45 minute ETA. Air-2 en route.
1401 - Ruby with 1 engine to standby at East Kingston station #1. Reports of a large barge moving northbound from Newburgh.
1405 - Car 56 reporting a personal jet with 1 subject, debris field in the river.
1411 - Air-2 and NYSP helicopter on scene
1419 - Ulster Hose with fire police to assist with traffic control at the intersection of Rt. 9w and Rt. 199
~1420 - NYSP Aviation reporting plane half under, appears fatal. Air boat en route from NYSP in Albany.
1423 - Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge reopened.
http://dailyfreeman.com/articles/2011/02/26/news/doc4d69516c83a00219327959.txt
UPDATE: http://dailyfreeman.com/articles/2011/02/27/news/doc4d69c42f0b5de677419944.txt

Date: 2-26-11
Time: 1340
Location: Hudson River off of the Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge
Frequency: 33.48, 46.46, 155.025
Units Operating: East Kingston FD, Glasco FD, Ulster Hose FD, Woodstock FD, Ruby FD, Mobile Life Support, UCSO Dive Team, Coast Guard, Ulster PD, NYSP, Air-2
Weather Conditions: Sunny, cool
Description Of Incident: Personal aircraft into the Hudson River.
Reporters/Writer: eric12401, JetPhoto
1340 - East Kingston respond with all equipment to a plane crash into the Hudson River. Glasco with their boat, Ulster Hose with 61-17 and their Dive Team, Ulster County Sheriff's Office with their Dive Team.
1343 - Coast Guard notified, will be deploying a cutter shortly.
1345 - Staging area will be at Charles Rider Park off of Ulster Landing Rd.
1346 - Police requesting to shut down the Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge.
1347 - Kingston-Ulster Airport reporting it was a personal aircraft.
1348 - Saugerties Coast Guard reporting their cutter is out of service.
1349 - State Police launching a helicopter for a rescue mission.
1350 - Woodstock Co. 4 with their hovercraft to the scene.
1354 - A cutter from Norrie Point (?) en route with a 45 minute ETA. Air-2 en route.
1401 - Ruby with 1 engine to standby at East Kingston station #1. Reports of a large barge moving northbound from Newburgh.
1405 - Car 56 reporting a personal jet with 1 subject, debris field in the river.
1411 - Air-2 and NYSP helicopter on scene
1419 - Ulster Hose with fire police to assist with traffic control at the intersection of Rt. 9w and Rt. 199
~1420 - NYSP Aviation reporting plane half under, appears fatal. Air boat en route from NYSP in Albany.
1423 - Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge reopened.
http://dailyfreeman.com/articles/2011/02/26/news/doc4d69516c83a00219327959.txt
UPDATE: http://dailyfreeman.com/articles/2011/02/27/news/doc4d69c42f0b5de677419944.txt