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Where was the DES METU? Why have a METU respond from Yonkers when there is one literally up the street?

1) Yes it would, but a consolidated system needs to include all e911 not just fire/ems. If the cops are not on board, then this will never work properly. And the cops are the ones who set up the e911 system to protect their little fiefdoms.
2) Before we set up our radio system, we met with the county to discus the "proposed" trunk system. We were told the trunk system as designed would a) not cover 100% of our district and unless additional tower licenses were obtained, it would never work properly in the southern part of the county and It was not designed for the day to day use that our department needs of its radio system. So we built our own and for our purpose, ours is vastly superior.

I wouldnt trust Joe Rao

I wouldnt trust Joe Rao

Date: 7/4/12
Time: 22:51
Location: 12 Hallock Place
Frequency: 46.26 dispatch, Fire 16, EMS 16, OPS 1
Units Operating: Armonk FD/EMS: 2021 (IC), 2022, 2023 (Water Supply), E286, E287, T9, 51B1, 51B3, U52, U82; Banksville FD: 2581, 2582, E157, T7; North White Plains FD: L47, 2321, 2325; Mt. Kisco FD: 2281, 2282, U13 (FAST) E106 (draft engine); Bedford Hills FD: 2033, E198, T5; Pound Ridge FD: 2401, T3, E112 (LDH Hose Ramp); Katonah FD: T6; Chappaqua FD: 2062, 2061, E146; Pleasantville FD: 2372, T57, E260; Valhalla FD: 2481, R9 (FAST); Round Hill FD: E2 (Standing by in Banksville FD HQ); Bedford FD: 52B1; Purchase FD: 2412, E240 (Standing by in Armonk FD HQ); Yorktown FD: 2532, E272 (Standing by in Bedford Hills FD HQ); Mt. Kisco VAC: 70B1 (Standing by in Armonk FD HQ); Pleasantville VAC: 76-06, 76-05, 76B2 (Rehab); Ossining FD: 2332, E97; Westchester DES: Bat 13, Cause and Origin Zone 5, County Car 24; North Castle PD; NYSP
Weather Conditions: Hot, Humid, Thunder Storms
Description Of Incident: Working fire. Original size up fire in the basement with heavy smoke.
Reporters: Sailr322, firedude
Contributors: PFDRes47cue
22:51 60 Control to Armonk to respond to 12 Hallock Place for a residential alarm
22:53 2021 responding
22:58 2021 on location, advising that there is a gate at the base of the driveway, can 60 call the homeowner back and have them open it
22:59 2021 advising that a neighbor is attempting to get them in, the homeowner does not appear to be home as this time
23:04 2021 advising 60 that a caretaker has come down and stated there is a fire in the basement, have gained access to the property by taking the gate with the apparatus
23:04 2021 advising of a heavy smoke condition, fire in the basement, requesting a 10-75 and to start with 3 tankers
23:05 2021 requesting T9 to come up to the scene in order to lay-in and then go back down the driveway to establish a shuttle
23:07 60 Control paging: Armonk on a 10-75, Banksville one tanker and one engine, Mt. Kisco FAST and one engine, North White Plains one ladder, Bedford Hills one tanker, Plesantville one tanker, Battalion 13; all units switch to Fire 16
23:07 2281 and 2282 responding
23:08 2581 responding
23:09 2021 on scene with a 125'x75' 3 story wood-frame structure with fire coming through the roof on the C/D corner
23:09 Chappaqua one engine relocate to Armonk FD HQ
23:10 2252 enroute to his firehouse
23:11 2031 responding
23:11 2061 responding
23:11 2021 requesting two additional tankers to the scene, dry hydrant
23:12 Units enroute to the scene per 2021 do not block driveway, leave it open for the truck
23:12 T5 responding
23:12 E157 responding
23:14 55B1 responding
23:13 Katonah Tanker requested to the scene
23:14 E157 requested to the hydrant per 2021
23:15 2021 requesting additional two engines to the scene
23:15 60 Control to 2031 can you have an engine respond, 2031 advises his engine is now en route to the scene
23:16 Chappaqua and Bedford Hills one engine to the scene
23:18 Tanker 6 enroute to the scene
23:19 E198 enroute to the scene
23:19 2021 advising a tanker shuttle will be needed to be established
23:19 Tanker 7 responding
23:19 Purchase one engine relocate to Armonk FD, remain on Fire 19
23:20 2033 on location
23:20 55B1 on location
23: 20 E157 to lay in from a dry hydrant
23:21 E146, 2061, and 2062 responding
23:21 U13 on location
23:22 Pound Ridge on a re-tone to respond to Armonk
23:22 E157 on location at the dry hydrant
23:23 Tanker 3 responding
23:24 Tanker 5 on location
23:25 Tanker 7 on location
23:25 2581 requesting 1 MA engine to backfill Banksville Fire HQ
23:26 2321 on location
23:27 Additional incoming tankers standby at the intersection due to a bottleneck as per 2581
23:29 Round Hill FD dispatched to relocate one engine to Banksville, dispatched by Greenwich
23:29 L47 on scene
23:30 All tankers switch to OPS 1
23:30 Going to exterior, master stream ops as soon as ladder is in place, heavy fire throughout 2021
23:31 2021 negative on evacuation tones all personnel are out
23:33 E240 out at Armonk HQ
23:34 State Police requested to the scene
23:36 E146 to complete layin from E157 per 2581
23:36 T6 on location
23:38 Second FAST and C&O per 2021
23:39 Valhalla FAST requested to the scene C&O landline 60 Control
23:40 Battalion 13 on location
23:44 Second ambulance requested to the scene per 2021
23:45 Bedford EMS requested to respond to the scene
23:50 52B1 responding
23:52 E146 still stretching, E198 standing by to make sure E146 completes lay to T9 per 2581
23:52 52B1 to respond to the staging area halfway up the driveway
23:52 Battalion 13 advising that IC is requesting the closest rehab unit
23:55 Bat 13 requesting Bedford FD to standby for Bedford Hills FD, CAD shows 1 Bedford engine OOS, Bedford unable to fill request. Bat. 13 requesting any engine to relocate to Bedford Hills
23:56 T3 on location
23:57 52B1 to stage on street and bring rehab up driveway per 2021
23:58 2581 telling E157 to charge the 5in line
23:59 R9 (Valhalla FAST) on location
00:01 E273 (Yorktown) assembling to relocate to Bedford Hills
00:02 Progress report from 2021, Signifact fire from 3rd floor throguh roof, master stream set up, waiting for water
00:04 Duration of the incident is 1 hour at this time
00:04 Mt. Kisco EMS dispatched to relocate to Armonk FD HQ per Bat. 13
00:06 Pleasentville VAC Rehab unit dispatched to scene
00:07 7605, 7606, 76B2 will be responding along with P'Ville Rehab, still assembling
00:09 76B2 responding
00:11 2021 requesting rehab units on Fire 16, not EMS
00:11 7606, 7605 responding
00:13 70B1 is relocating to Armonk HQ
00:17 IC requesting a status on the supply line, 2023 advising 5in needs to be shut off will advise when it is back on
00:20 E146 requested to reduce their pressure
00:22 Duration of the incident is now 1 hour 30 minutes
00:26 2021 Roof collapse, to C and D sides, all hands still operating, exterior operations
00:26 E146 requested to raise their pressure again and re-charge the line
00:31 2023 requesting a portable pump from E157
00:35 1405 (C&O) on scene
00:38 Bat 13 trying to boost pressure, will use portable pump from E157
00:47 Plesantville Rehab on scene
00:48 2021 reports more fire in rear of building, no pressure
00:53 2581 reports 5in will have to be shut down for 5 minutes to allow T7 in
00:56 E146 shutting down the 5in
00:57 E146 reporting the 5in has been shutdown
00:59 Hose ramps from Pound Ridge on location on the way to the staging area per 2581
01:04 E146 re-charging the 5in line
01:04 Duration of the incident is now 2 hours per 60 Control
01:08 100psi output per E146
01:09 2023 requesting an additional tanker, will most likely come from Round Hill
01:10 2023 two fill sites, one on 128 and one on School Street
01:22 As per 2021 no additional mutual aide expected, road can be shut at this time
01:34 Duration of the incident is now 2 hours 30 minutes per 60 Control
01:49 2021 advising 60 Control that fire is darkening down, sending crews to check for hot spots
01:52 E198 requested to drop their pressure a little bit as per 2021
01:53 60 Control requesting 2321 to landline 60
01:54 2321 advising 60 Control that is not possible at this time
01:54 60 Control to 2321 asking to landline when possible than
01:56 2023 to 2581 requesting to cut the pump pressure by about half
01:57 2581 cutting pump pressure by half
02:04 60 Control advising that the duration of this incident is 3 hours at this time
02:12 T5 advising IC of a crew change due to a personnel emergency
02:34 Plesantville and Purchase to the scene for relief and hot spots
02:36 2581 advising an engine is not needed up the driveway, just the manpower, have them come up in any chiefs car
02:37 Ossining toned out for one engine to standby in Armonk HQ
02:38 2332 advising 60 Control and 2021 that E97 is assembling in quarters to respond to Armonk FD
02:39 2021 requesting 60 Control to tone out for Armonk's Gator (U52) and U82 to respond to the scene
02:41 60 Control toning out manpower for U52 and U82
02:42 Ossining additional personnel still needed to fill E97
02:44 2581 to 2421 advising when E240 is on location to position north of the intersection as far right as possible, have crew ready to go to work and shuttle them up in the chief's car since the engine will not be able to make it
02:46 52B1 is available to transport personnel up to the scene
02:47 52B1 making their way down to bring personnel up to the scene
02:49 2581 inquiring if a fuel truck is needed will it fit
02:49 2322 and E97 on the road to Armonk FD
02:51 2581 requesting only personnel to the up to the scene, no engine
02:51 2581 requesting a fuel truck to the scene
02:53 2021 requesting an update on the manpower at quarters for utilities, 60 Control advising nothing at this time
02:54 Bat. 13 requested to landline 60 Control
02:54 E260 on location, per 60 Control contact 2581, have personnel with packs and gear, shuttle to the scene in a chiefs car or apparatus on location
02:55 60 Control tone out for additional personnel still needed for U52 and U82
03:02 2581 asking if Plesantville has portable lighting to bring it up with their crew
03:04 60 Control advising the duration of the incident is now at 4 hours
03:08 Bat. 13 to 2581 requesting the fuel status on all the tankers and the relay, advising of one issue on the scene already
03:13 70B1 requesting additional tones for manpower
03:14 60 Control tone for EMT and driver
03:16 70B1 advising 60 full crew is now assembled
03:17 All tankers are at approximately 1/2 a tank of fuel, 2581 working on fuel truck
03:18 2062 to E146 relief to one FF on the way, he can make his way to the intersection
03:19 2581 if Plesantville wishes to bring lighting in they can, Plesantville advising they don't have enough manpower at this time
03:21 2581 advising fuel truck is on location, beginning the process of refueling
03:27 2581 to E146 can shut down at this time, do not break down at this time, wants to make sure tanker operations are still ok
03:28 2581 to E146 and E157 can start breaking their lines down
03:29 2581 have the fuel truck come up to the scene for E286
03:31 2021 to 60 Control on a progress update, main body of the fire k/d in overhaul stages
03:32 60 Control advising the duration of the incident is now at 4 hours and 30 minutes
03:38 U82 responding
03:41 2581 running two hand lines at this time
03:43 2581 advising water and fuel levels are ok at this time, should be able to handle
03:53 2021 requesting U52 up to scene
04:02 60 Control advising the duration of this incident is now 5 hours
04:07 2581 advising that in approximately 10 minutes all hand lines will be pulled out and going to master stream operations
04:18 2021 advising 60 Control Valhalla FAST in clearing, will advise when they are clear of the scene
04:20 2481 and Valhalla FAST clear of the scene, switching back to Fire 11
04:29 60 Control to Bat. 13 progress report per 2021: pulling hand lines and going to ladder operations, all hands still working, duration of this incident now at 5 hours 30 minutes
04:31 2581 advising going to ladder operations now
04:32 2023 asking if manpower is available to come down to pack hose
04:33 2581 advising Bat. 13 they are keeping master stream ops in place for the next 20 minutes then beginning the process of clearing
04:40 T6 filling
04:43 Bat. 13 advising 60 Control that 52B1 has been released and placed back in service per 2021
04:50 2581 per 2021 to 2023 and tankers shut it down
04:50 E198 shutting down, E106 shutting down
05:02 Bat. 13 all units in the process of shutting down
05:03 2581 to Bat. 13 IC is releasing all tankers with the exception of one Armonk and One Banksville
05:04 Tankers in the process of picking up, one Armonk and one Banksville remaining on scene as per 60 Control
05:05 60 Control advising the duration of the incident is now 6 hours
05:08 T3 returning to quarters
05:09 52B2 back in service, returning to quarters
05:16 2372, T57, E260 released
05:19 T6 back in service, returning to quarters
05:19 All Plesantville units returning to quarters
05:22 2325 advising all North White Plains units are back in, returning to quarters
05:23 All Katonah back in service, returning to quarters
05:24 Mt. Kisco FAST picked up and back in service
05:32 E106 back in service
05:48 T7 returning to quarters
05:49 2372 advising 60 all Plesantville units back in service back in district
05:50 2412 advising 60 all Purchase units back in service from Armonk
05:54 2031 advising all Bedford Hills units in service from Armonk
05:55 2532 and E272 returning to quarters
06:04 60 Control advising units have now been operating at this incident for 6 hours
06:15 2581 all Banksville units clear and in service from Armonk
06:17 2021 to 60 Control heading back to HQ to pickup hose line, E286 and Chappaqua remaining on scene
06:21 70B1 released from Armonk FD HQ, back in service
06:22 Ossining units released back in service
06:22 2021 request tones for manpower to report to HQ for cleanup
06:23 Armonk toned out for manpower to HQ for cleanup
06:38 All Ossining units back in district, back in service
06:42 E146 and 2062 clear of Armonk, E146 out of service at this time per 2062 will advise when it is back in
10:00 2021, C&O on scene with hot spots, requesting Armonk and Banksville to respond back out
10:02 2021 requesting BHFD TL57 to scene
10:09 Armonk and Bedford Hills Re-toned
10:13 E286 OOS until further notice per 2021
10:13 Bat 13 responding to Armonk
10:17 E288, TL57 responding
10:23 2021 requesting TL57 to back up driveway
10:24 Armonk Tanker retoned
10:25 E288 on scene
10:29 T9 responding
10:31 TL57 on scene
10:40 U82 responding
10:41 Bat. 13 on scene
11:44 Bat. 13 back in service
11:45 T9 clear of the scene, going to re-fill
11:45 Bedford Hills & E288 clear of scene, back in service
11:58 County Car 24 back in service from Armonk
11:58 All FD units clear, turned over to homeowner per 2021
17:54 All members to report to HQ for special cleanup
20:07 Armonk units toned back for hot spots
LoHud article: http://www.lohud.com...|text|Frontpage
WABC 7 article: http://abclocal.go.c...urbs&id=8725418
News 12 article: http://www.news12.co...&news_type=news
Newsday article: http://newyork.newsd...-hurt-1.3822029
LoHud photos from the fire: http://www.lohud.com...&nclick_check=1 (these photos are not mine, they are taken by Frank Becerra Jr.)
Armonk FD article with photos: http://www.armonkfd.com/2012/07/july-4th-structure-fire/

Great photos firedude!!!!!!

Great photos firedude!!!!!!

Nice photos everyone, as well as the vid!!!

Wish I could have grown up with rigs like these to have those memories too!

Great work Bill! Another awesome off duty save!!

It makes a lot of sense what you think about the Sound Shore topic but, if you wanted a team it would more then likely have to be stationed with a min of 2 people at a time like a VAC would always be have a crew on, and obviously with the team there would be more then one boat so those people on duty at the time would have people backing them up...

I dont know how much of u have boats but i work on the water and hear atleast 3-4 distress calls a day and other calls like hazards in the water, people sick on boats etc. There is more to it then u think

I agree with you, but the should be a on water rescue team. When a vessel on WLIS calls in distress there is time to save them but there is no on to do the job except local pd's then again it might not be directly called to them... If there was an actual team made by sound shore municipalities... Portchester, Rye, Mamaroneck, Larchmont, New ro and pelham can all chip in a small amount each to make a decent team to cover from the ct border down the the bronx line...
i have seen Local private yacht clubs send there own staff out looking for people out there...
I have also seen NYC Helicopters helping in searches (which is great)
Maybe a team can be made and work with the FDNY and other local "on water" rescue and salvage agencies

But instead of having Engines carrying extraction tools have the Truck carry them.
Also i think fast teams should be trucks not engines. Just in my opinion.

any pics?

Thats Awesome!!!! you guys really did a nice thing there... I love seeing things like this when firefighters get to help people when its not on a scene of a call....
Great Work God Bless

Thats Awesome!!!! you guys really did a nice thing there... I love seeing things like this when firefighters get to help people when its not on a scene of a call....
Great Work God Bless