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  1. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    I watched both videos...both were quite handsome to watch. First, I have to say I've never seen a roof plume up like that. It puts perspective on the fact that you don't know what happened prior to your arrival. That roof is definitely compromised, bu the FD won't know until a bystander says something.

    As for the second video.....where's the support to stop the garage door from closing? I can understand how you can approach an oped overhead door and believe that it will stay up, but there is no definitive reason for it to stay up. A little force from even blowing smoke/hot gasses can move a heavy object (especially when tat object has wheels on a pre-defined track). I'm sure a well placed 2x4 or even a pike pole would have prevented the closure. [bTW, don't take this comment as a Monday morning QB remark; I'm simply stating something obvious because it can and will save a life. I'd rather make it seem like a MMQB remark than attend a LODD funeral.]

    Totally agree, IN # 1 Yeah its easy to watch The first minute and Know everything.. <sic> setting it up as they did On youtube showing the blast 1st they seeing it a second time, You have the chance to see the guy in white (homeowner?) disapear into the front door foyer area , the blast happens and you figure OMG he is gonna be singed at best... yet he walks out seemingly fine... lol Crazy stuff... But its easy to conclude with The little we know of what the heck happened The house Backdraft indicates to me The house must have been Charred ...

    The Garage door incident was several years ago... I post it as A reminder YOU NEED to NOT trust anything... door openers can short out chains can Break, at Least sstuff a pike pole or chanel locks on the rail to keep it from closing fully .....

    >>> Note I typed Chanel locks I meant Vise grips of similar Locking device much more versitle in this senerio sorry ...

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  2. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    http://youtu.be/TB733ALC9gw (backdraft)

    Mind You its an older post of a backdraft that occured You can see what sure LOOKS like The cause if you watch it through,

    The real action Happens early in the video watch carefully The owner (?) it seems As if he is going to enter the front at the exact moment a Backdraft occures and It literally lifts the roof, and you'll see the dude come away from the door.....

    Here is another great Teacher of Men Video North Carolina Garage door closes On the line and trapping a couple guys for a couple minutes

    http://youtu.be/Zd6bAEMu5Yk Garage Door entrapment

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  4. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    A Macon-Bibb County firefighter lost his life Wednesday night from injuries he received when he fell through the floor of a burning home in south Bibb County.

    Fire Lt. Randy Parker, 46, was pronounced dead at the Medical Center, Navicent Health, at 9:09 p.m., Bibb County Coroner Leon Jones said.

    A few minutes before 6 p.m., firefighters arrived at 2320 Fairview Drive, just south of Rocky Creek Road. The house was engulfed in flames.

    After an initial group of firefighters went into the house, the floor collapsed, and several firefighters fell into the basement, said Chris Floore, spokesman for the Macon-Bibb County government.

    Six firefighters, including Parker, were taken to the Medical Center. Battalion Chief Steven Stafford, 59, was airlifted to the Joseph M. Still Burn Center in Augusta,

    http://www.firehouse.com/news/12044317/macon-bibb-firefighter-dies-at-house-fire

    News

    http://www.macon.com/welcome_page/?shf=/2015/02/11/3581430_at-least-four-injured-in-south.html

    Updated

    http://www.firehouse.com/news/12044317/macon-bibb-firefighter-dies-at-house-fire

    I hate to even Think exactly how related this most likely is to Lightweight conversations we've been discussing...

  5. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    HOLY $H!T!!! I did not realize that stairs were being built "lightweight" as well. Thanks for this heads up....I would have never known.

    It's a shame that construction and the respective building codes allow this kind of construction at all. I understand that it's been proven safe [when it's not on fire or damaged by water or nature], but at what point is someone going to stand up and say enough is enough? Is it 5 FF-LODDs? 10? 1,000? And why can't the almighty insurance lobby step in and say, "Hold on, these homes burn to the ground and cost us millions extra in payouts. Stop this."? Oh, wait...I forgot it's about the bottom line. Apparently it's worth it to someone. :(

    YES DWCfireman pretty scary stuff.... each step makes for more and more dangerous conditions for Us..

    these sum things up

    http://firetrainingtoolbox.com/gonogo.pdf

    and this video will Maybe give you a means ..and maybe some Insight

    http://youtu.be/c7m8TViEUOk

  6. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    Fire Engineering posted these pictures On social media Featuring some of the Moments shot over the week trying to extinguish the fire


    http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/2015/01/bklyn-warehouse-fire/image-gallery.html

    And today the lawsuits fly.... wth?

    http://www.firehouse.com/news/12042944/fdny-sued-after-massive-brooklyn-warehouse-blaze

  7. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    From the picture, it looks like the 2x stock portion of the wood I beams didn't even char very much. I can't tell from the black and white pic if the OSB portion is burned away or disintegrated from being soaked in water. Either way, the hazard is obvious and severe.

    I hear you Steve and Having many years of working in Building materials wholesale and retail as employment and side work I agree strandboard is strong and Rigid and also affected by heat and cold and water and chemicals and when That happens looses very quickly its Integrety.... I recall telling another employee NOT to stack 4 units under an exterior Pole shed, he did and 7 months later Guess who got stuck trying to removed said Units of Strand board the top most unit had expanded up between the 2x8 roof rafters of the pole shed even with Steel bands securing the unit together... the moisture is sucked up like a sponge.... I did get the units out without breaking anything but it was a pain in the... its crap and used more and more IN places it was NEVER intended to be used....

    and here is the "I stair" configured death trap

    http://www.greenmaltese.com/2013/01/24/the-i-stair-a-new-building-construction-hazard/

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  8. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    when YOU look at the underside of the floor sheathing The fact that the UPPER thread (2x4) is GONE and Look the further right the More (OSB) strand board material is remaining... Obvioulsy I am looking at the same photo as will everyone.. this fire Burned through the strand materialand the Upper 2x either fully burned or fell to the floor level Point is this is "about 2 seconds" from collapsing and killing firefighters and or residents.... the Lower picture is of similar OSB i beams before the upper level platform has been place (not the walls are 2x6 on that larger most likely a condo complex or commercial building , BUT the I BEAMS are the concern here....

    its suggested 6 minutes burn time] and I don't "KNOW" but I suspect the lower 2x4 may have been protected By wallboard but again I don't know this..... OSB or strandboard was designed to be Wall sheathing just as "particle board" was designed to be an Underlayment, its amazing how the industry has Pushed and pushed and pushed

    Oddly enough right after this all popped up I also had a post pop up unrelated out of Massachusetts and these are shown as a Pitched roof beam (kinda cool )

    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/02/04/i-team-lightweight-beams-may-contribute-to-devastating-house-

    fires/

    I STAIRS strandboard held together in "waterbed clips" and corner bead? lol

    http://www.greenmaltese.com/2013/01/24/the-i-stair-a-new-building-construction-hazard/

    After The Edgewater Condos incident Chief Salka had a Timely highlight in Firehouse Magazine about Lightweight Truss construction as well....

    http://www.firehouse.com/blog/12041510/lightweight-construction-is-unsafe-for-firefighters-residents

  9. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    given The vast discussion of Last weeks; condos in edgewater of Lightweight Construction a buddy of mine who's living in southern Pa. had this Post arrive from an Incident in Bryans Road Maryland which is a bedroom community along the Potomic River.....

    (The 1st Photo shows extensive Basement Damage to a residential fire In which the "Engineered strandboard I beams" burned 87% away and are sagging in the photo,)

    "This is a photo from the basement of the House Fire today. Notice the burnt out I-beams. These are the engineered beams that are common in construction over the last few years. The floor in the living area above had sagged about a foot and was on the verge of collapse when noticed by interior Officers and crews. Fortunately no one was injured and the area was cordoned off. Just another reminder of what can and will kill us. Thanks to Mark Kaufmann for sharing the photo."

    below (2nd Picture) shows The general configuration of these OSB I beams in another larger structure, Obviously These are being supported By 2x 6 headers and studs for a larger structure...obviously larger then a single fam dwelling

    post-20741-0-13075600-1423359976.jpg

    post-20741-0-22681700-1423360023.jpg

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    After the Edgewater, New Jersey Incident last week Chief Salka blogged...

    "If you live in the New York/New Jersey metropolitan area you are surely aware of the gigantic fire that occurred on the shores of the Hudson River in Edgewater.

    Let's start with lightweight wood construction (LWWC). We all know it sucks! Let's cut right to the facts. LWWC is just that, lightweight wood components that are assembled in such a way that they hold the weight or load that they need to carry. They only do this when they are not on fire, not assembled improperly or not damaged by plumbers, carpenters and electricians who damage them to install wiring, pipes or other components...." >>countinued below

    http://www.firehouse.com/blog/12041510/lightweight-construction-is-unsafe-for-firefighters-residents

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    due to the weather (today was Closing day The application Process has been extended till Feburary 9th for anyone actually smart enough to read The information... you will have to figure out for yourself how to find the website to confirm that because I am not pasting it here....

  14. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    2500 gallons sitting On the rears like that and 6 x 6 will be helpfull with shortened wheel bass, Care In And Down hill Backing/Manuevers could be dangerous... mainly in the hills for which its Usage is intended... the oplitical tank low center of gravity, and various discharge options Seems Like its something that should work well for them... Consider Most departments in southern Cally have Bulldozers and Flatbeds on They're rosters...

  16. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    Actually the specs said 5,000 Alex Unless that was quoted incorrectly on the stem page 3 "units" in 3 parts of the state North Middle and south a Pump rolloff, a twin reeled set up for LDH and Manifold pretty cool ... Marine 1 and 6 were reported called along with the Marine Batt. to supply water.... (NYWIRE)

    this is the Neptune NJ Super Pumper page

    http://www.firefightingnews.com/article.cfm?articleID=23865

    You can also add Jersey City's 2 Marine units as well

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  17. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    Wow, lets use a $200 - $400 wheel chock, when we can just get a $2 4x4 from Home Depot.

    Ingama'r, Run to da Home Depot In in Westchester, NY. USA here's 4 Kroner..... bring back a receipt............ :D

    the Cairns Metro 660 was a perfect Wheelchock, sadly The one pictured below had its Handle Broken off and isnt even close to being worth 100 dollars much less 400 :P

    post-20741-0-21283600-1421871897.jpg

  19. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    On the way back from a fire call Thursday morning, Firefighter Brandon Hausbeck and Lt. Christopher McGowan were at a red light when they noticed something was wrong with their friend and colleague who was driving their truck.


    "All of a sudden the rig started to move forward and I looked over to the engineer, the guy driving and it was obvious something was going on with him," said Hausbeck.....


    http://www.abc12.com/story/27815876/...life-using-aed

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  20. Posted

    Uh, obviously he isn't right. A member causing this about of damage to his own company...clearly he isn't "all there."

    MY Point in stating the obvious here is That He has the Glazed Drug induced BLANK LOOK on his Face That one see's in so Many of Todays Mass Killers .... I realize That Vollie outfits are pressed, christ 30 years ago we were dealing with members LIKE this kid... that aspect is Nothing new various places I am aware Have delt with issues That nearly got this Bad,,, "because they was bored or got wasted or some crap..... it also goes along with how many JR arsonists you hear about in some Locations, more often in rural areas....

  23. Posted

    http://www.phillyfirenews.com/2014/12/09/philadelphia-firefighter-killed-west-oak-lane-house-fire/#.VIbdclC9GuB.facebook

    Philadelphia Firefighter Killed in West Oak Lane House Fire

    in City of Philadelphia, Fire Wire, Headlines, Pennsylvania 2 hours ago 1 Comment

    Date: 12/09/2014
    Time: 2:50 AM
    Town: City of Philadelphia
    Address: 1600 block of Middletown Street
    Type: Dwelling Fire
    Details: B/C-2 arrived on scene with fire in the basement of a two story middle of the row dwelling, placed two engines and two ladders in service. Requested the box filled out. Command received reports of a firefighter trapped in the basement. Placed all hands in service and additional medics to the scene.
    A firefighter was transported to the hospital in grave condition and died at the hospital. Several other firefighters suffered injuries.
    Initial reports are a the firefighter is 36 year old female firefighter from Engine-64. She was a 11 year veteran of the department.

  24. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    http://youtu.be/YLhO25vBT5c

    This is a video is of the fire on December 1, 1958 at the OUR LADY OF ANGLES SCHOOL grade school fire, located at 909 N. Avers. on Chicago's west side. Before it was brought under control 92 children and 3 nuns lost their lives, all due to inefficient fire codes in Chicago schools. I know That this was a HUGE subject In Fire safety in the 70's.....

    http://youtu.be/xLkKJZqsSMQ

    http://youtu.be/AgrTXKbFmcI

  25. Posted · Edited by BFD389RET

    Fire Truck Vs. Helicopter Wonder how many died yesterday In Chili

    Statter911 's Facebook page had this incident The video below shows what happened when a fire truck crashed into the blades of a police helicopter in San Miguel, Chile YESTERDAY (Sunday). The impact happens at 2:10 into the 1st video. The 2nd video SHows More consise footage

    The videos on the page below captures more of the immediate aftermath as the chopper spins out of control and then explodes.

    http://www.statter911.com/2014/11/30...hj-hc.facebook

    seems Like Everyone survived and The FD Had been given clearance to pass...

    http://youtu.be/fVq4_HhBK8Y