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Myself and a NYFD Deputy Chief representing the Northeast Fire Consortium traveled to the National Fire Academy and requested that they develop a national chief Officers course, They told us that they needed the funding so we went to Nita Lowey and thru her office we were given $ 250,000 to develop the course, we brought the money back to the NFA and as promised they developed the course, Our goal was for a nation wide course taught thru-out the country regionally, To test it out it was offered at the NYS Fire Academy and there were few takers. ( So mandated seemed the answer)
We went to Randalls Island and met with various high ranking FDNY chiefs and they felt it was a good idea and could be taught in NYC using the FLIP school facilities when not in use, However they needed the supporting funding.
Our goal has been reduced to make it part of the mandated NYS Standards as is probie training and Flip school. Career chief candidates would be mandated to go,.while it could be made into optional week-end modules for the volunteers and taught regionally around the state.
So would this not help a new promotee who would be entering into a job he has little preparation for. Would it not increase firefighter safety by having the guy running the job knowing more of what he is doing and what an opportunity to interface with skilled folks and learning your trade as your responsibilities have dramatically increased
Again this concept should be pushed by the various fire organizations and Homeland Security. lots of training around but none dedicated to the guy running the show

Now you know I meant legs and not kegs in the above posting, if we could get kegs involved it would be a ravening success.

A very important part of fire training is being left out and that is Chief's Training, it would stand to reason that after probie training of 229 hours ( at least) , 100 hours in service and 160 hour first line Officers course, the next logical step would have the Standards Commission mandate a Chief Officers Course, NYS law states in order to be a barber you need more than 1000 hours training and none to be a fire chief, that is crazy. This would be a good cause for the various Fire Organization to champion.

Myself and a NYFD Deputy Chief representing the Northeast Fire Consortium traveled to the National Fire Academy and requested that they develop a national chief Officers course, They told us that they needed the funding so we went to Nita Lowey and thru her office we were given $ 250,000 to develop the course, we brought the money back to the NFA and as promised they developed the course, Our goal was for a nation wide course taught thru-out the country regionally, To test it out it was offered at the NYS Fire Academy and there were few takers. ( So mandated seemed the answer)
We went to Randalls Island and met with various high ranking FDNY chiefs and they felt it was a good idea and could be taught in NYC using the FLIP school facilities when not in use, However they needed the supporting funding.
Our goal has been reduced to make it part of the mandated NYS Standards as is probie training and Flip school. Career chief candidates would be mandated to go,.while it could be made into optional week-end modules for the volunteers and taught regionally around the state.
So would this not help a new promotee who would be entering into a job he has little preparation for. Would it not increase firefighter safety by having the guy running the job knowing more of what he is doing and what an opportunity to interface with skilled folks and learning your trade as your responsibilities have dramatically increased
Again this concept should be pushed by the various fire organizations and Homeland Security. lots of training around but none dedicated to the guy running the show

A very important part of fire training is being left out and that is Chief's Training, it would stand to reason that after probie training of 229 hours ( at least) , 100 hours in service and 160 hour first line Officers course, the next logical step would have the Standards Commission mandate a Chief Officers Course, NYS law states in order to be a barber you need more than 1000 hours training and none to be a fire chief, that is crazy. This would be a good cause for the various Fire Organization to champion.

A very important part of fire training is being left out and that is Chief's Training, it would stand to reason that after probie training of 229 hours ( at least) , 100 hours in service and 160 hour first line Officers course, the next logical step would have the Standards Commission mandate a Chief Officers Course, NYS law states in order to be a barber you need more than 1000 hours training and none to be a fire chief, that is crazy. This would be a good cause for the various Fire Organization to champion.

A very important part of fire training is being left out and that is Chief's Training, it would stand to reason that after probie training of 229 hours ( at least) , 100 hours in service and 160 hour first line Officers course, the next logical step would have the Standards Commission mandate a Chief Officers Course, NYS law states in order to be a barber you need more than 1000 hours training and none to be a fire chief, that is crazy. This would be a good cause for the various Fire Organization to champion.

Does Rochester still use the Quad system with some sort of a mini=maxi apparatus set up, looks like they have a basic engine and ladder fire department , I remember talking to an outsider brought into be Chief of this Department and he wished he could go back to engines and trucks instead of a majority Quad fire department, does anyone know their operations ?

I would like to thank all those contributing to this topic with well thought out points, this is a subject,we all will have to learn more on. Just wondering in the future, if a Department adopts these concepts and their neighbors haven't yet been converted, how will .a mutual aid fire play out ?

I would like to thank all those contributing to this topic with well thought out points, this is a subject,we all will have to learn more on. Just wondering in the future, if a Department adopts these concepts and their neighbors haven't yet been converted, how will .a mutual aid fire play out ?

The beauty of unmarked take home cars, only the most astute buffs recognize these vehicles.

The beauty of unmarked take home cars, only the most astute buffs recognize these vehicles.

The beauty of unmarked take home cars, only the most astute buffs recognize these vehicles.

The beauty of unmarked take home cars, only the most astute buffs recognize these vehicles.

I think Robert Benz summed it up in real life terms

The beauty of unmarked take home cars, only the most astute buffs recognize these vehicles.

The beauty of unmarked take home cars, only the most astute buffs recognize these vehicles.

Now that many have adequate fireground handi-talkies for use at a fire scene, thus not interfering with the dispatch frequency and visa versa, why at a routine fire must mutual aid companies switch to a county channel if these units have compatablity with the local frequency. Doing this the relocated units have no idea what is going on with the fire and what to expect unless they constantly switch the radio and the folks at the fire have no idea what is going on in the rest of the City unless they do the same..
Certainly, a massive event with many units coming in, a common frequency would be warranted

Now that many have adequate fireground handi-talkies for use at a fire scene, thus not interfering with the dispatch frequency and visa versa, why at a routine fire must mutual aid companies switch to a county channel if these units have compatablity with the local frequency. Doing this the relocated units have no idea what is going on with the fire and what to expect unless they constantly switch the radio and the folks at the fire have no idea what is going on in the rest of the City unless they do the same..
Certainly, a massive event with many units coming in, a common frequency would be warranted

Now that many have adequate fireground handi-talkies for use at a fire scene, thus not interfering with the dispatch frequency and visa versa, why at a routine fire must mutual aid companies switch to a county channel if these units have compatablity with the local frequency. Doing this the relocated units have no idea what is going on with the fire and what to expect unless they constantly switch the radio and the folks at the fire have no idea what is going on in the rest of the City unless they do the same..
Certainly, a massive event with many units coming in, a common frequency would be warranted

Now that many have adequate fireground handi-talkies for use at a fire scene, thus not interfering with the dispatch frequency and visa versa, why at a routine fire must mutual aid companies switch to a county channel if these units have compatablity with the local frequency. Doing this the relocated units have no idea what is going on with the fire and what to expect unless they constantly switch the radio and the folks at the fire have no idea what is going on in the rest of the City unless they do the same..
Certainly, a massive event with many units coming in, a common frequency would be warranted

Now that many have adequate fireground handi-talkies for use at a fire scene, thus not interfering with the dispatch frequency and visa versa, why at a routine fire must mutual aid companies switch to a county channel if these units have compatablity with the local frequency. Doing this the relocated units have no idea what is going on with the fire and what to expect unless they constantly switch the radio and the folks at the fire have no idea what is going on in the rest of the City unless they do the same..
Certainly, a massive event with many units coming in, a common frequency would be warranted

Seeing this great job done by the Mail Man using a garden hose, reminds me of something we use to do back "in the day" . We use to carry a 25ft length of garden hose rolled tight and strapped, with a nozzle on one end and a universal fitting on the other, this fitting looked like a chrome Venus fly trap with an adjustable rubber mouth that could fit over most household facets, sinks or bath tubs. The purpose of this was to hold a fire until the line got up to you or if you arrived without an engine.
It sort of went the way of the Buffalo, however I still thought it was a good idea. Might have problems now with the elaborate decorative facets. Also, with these new expandable garden hoses seen on TV this concept might return

Seeing this great job done by the Mail Man using a garden hose, reminds me of something we use to do back "in the day" . We use to carry a 25ft length of garden hose rolled tight and strapped, with a nozzle on one end and a universal fitting on the other, this fitting looked like a chrome Venus fly trap with an adjustable rubber mouth that could fit over most household facets, sinks or bath tubs. The purpose of this was to hold a fire until the line got up to you or if you arrived without an engine.
It sort of went the way of the Buffalo, however I still thought it was a good idea. Might have problems now with the elaborate decorative facets. Also, with these new expandable garden hoses seen on TV this concept might return

Seeing this great job done by the Mail Man using a garden hose, reminds me of something we use to do back "in the day" . We use to carry a 25ft length of garden hose rolled tight and strapped, with a nozzle on one end and a universal fitting on the other, this fitting looked like a chrome Venus fly trap with an adjustable rubber mouth that could fit over most household facets, sinks or bath tubs. The purpose of this was to hold a fire until the line got up to you or if you arrived without an engine.
It sort of went the way of the Buffalo, however I still thought it was a good idea. Might have problems now with the elaborate decorative facets. Also, with these new expandable garden hoses seen on TV this concept might return