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I wished you were right 635, but the best candidate is no longer part of the dynamic

Some of the boxes had a telegraph key inside that you could send back signals to the dispatcher as to the disposition of the alarm and request additional units, this handy before apparatus radio. If you had a fire and things were not going well, the chief would tap out a request for a second on the telegraph key.(Front of the box opened to rewind and reset and access to the key if so equipped)
Also, some places had a hard card inside telling what units were assigned to this box all the way up to the fifth alarm..

I wished you were right 635, but the best candidate is no longer part of the dynamic

I wished you were right 635, but the best candidate is no longer part of the dynamic

I wished you were right 635, but the best candidate is no longer part of the dynamic

I wished you were right 635, but the best candidate is no longer part of the dynamic

I wished you were right 635, but the best candidate is no longer part of the dynamic

Went to the funeral at St.Patrick's and to see the Avenue packed with people and the endless sea of blue representing Fire Fighters from seemly all over the world was amazing, the unforgettable sight of the coffins coming down Fifth Ave in formation on brand new Mack pumpers has stayed with me to this day.
For students of Firefighting much can be learned from this fire. There is a book out "23rd Street Fire " well worth the read

Went to the funeral at St.Patrick's and to see the Avenue packed with people and the endless sea of blue representing Fire Fighters from seemly all over the world was amazing, the unforgettable sight of the coffins coming down Fifth Ave in formation on brand new Mack pumpers has stayed with me to this day.
For students of Firefighting much can be learned from this fire. There is a book out "23rd Street Fire " well worth the read

Went to the funeral at St.Patrick's and to see the Avenue packed with people and the endless sea of blue representing Fire Fighters from seemly all over the world was amazing, the unforgettable sight of the coffins coming down Fifth Ave in formation on brand new Mack pumpers has stayed with me to this day.
For students of Firefighting much can be learned from this fire. There is a book out "23rd Street Fire " well worth the read

791075 is correct, the length of a " Great Lake Greenie" indicated the amount of resources needed for fire extinguishment

791075 is correct, the length of a " Great Lake Greenie" indicated the amount of resources needed for fire extinguishment

791075 is correct, the length of a " Great Lake Greenie" indicated the amount of resources needed for fire extinguishment

791075 is correct, the length of a " Great Lake Greenie" indicated the amount of resources needed for fire extinguishment

791075 is correct, the length of a " Great Lake Greenie" indicated the amount of resources needed for fire extinguishment

A fire that certainly keeps with our topic was the " Pelham Manor Invitational " hosted by their newly minted Fire Chief.
This fire was in a large "L" shaped non fire proof, multiple dwelling of six stories on Boston Post Road near the New Rochelle Border.
The fire got into the top floor and a very deep unbroken cockloft, initial efforts where hampered by wooden roof decking built over the original roof to form a large patio, for penthouse dwellers, which frustrated initial venting and quick trench cutting. The reason I mention this, as this is going to become more common as people start to use roofs for leisure purposes and the increase of "green buildings" which will have gardens etc. on the roof. Not only causing venting headaches but tremendous weight not planned on, adding to an early collapse.
But the "Pelham Manor Invitational", was just that, few Westchester Departments were not present and FDNY sent a full third alarm mutual aid assignment. I wonder how many different hose threads were involved ?

OK -Back on topic-How about the huge fire in White Plains, when a propane tractor trailer struck a bridge abutment and exploded setting structure fires on both sides of the interstate in residential neighborhoods, now that produced enough fire for everyone, sometime in the 90's

FirNaTine is correct when standards and common sense are thrown out the window or politics enters, when vetting new canidates to career fire departments. It is important not to compromise as it is not fair to the F.D-citizens and the candidate' Poor hirings will bite you in the arse down the road sooner or later. All believe in giving folks a chance and perhaps a second chance but not in Public Safety where the stakes are too high.

FirNaTine is correct when standards and common sense are thrown out the window or politics enters, when vetting new canidates to career fire departments. It is important not to compromise as it is not fair to the F.D-citizens and the candidate' Poor hirings will bite you in the arse down the road sooner or later. All believe in giving folks a chance and perhaps a second chance but not in Public Safety where the stakes are too high.

FirNaTine is correct when standards and common sense are thrown out the window or politics enters, when vetting new canidates to career fire departments. It is important not to compromise as it is not fair to the F.D-citizens and the candidate' Poor hirings will bite you in the arse down the road sooner or later. All believe in giving folks a chance and perhaps a second chance but not in Public Safety where the stakes are too high.

The Chief of any Combined Regional or Countywide Fire Department hasn't been born yet

I found out many years later, when speaking with the gent, that one of the Port Chester vollies that fought the above mentioned Chatsworth Avenue fire was the celebrated ABC News Washington correspondent and often Presidential debate moderator Hal Bruno. Hal was until his passing one of the great champions of the Fire Service and officiated at many Fire related events.His DC influence was of great help with pro fire legislation.
If I recall, he related a story about being injured at this fire or overcome, as this wouldn't be a surprise, as this was still a time when Scotts were kept in suitcases.
Now just over the bridge from the Chatsworth fire was the Larchmont business district that burned very frequently during the 1970's and into the 1980's with some huge taxpayer and multiple dwelling fires, again before LDH so lots of 2.5 supply lines stretched for blocks, plenty of fire for a generation of Sound Shore firefighters during this period in just a few blocks.

I found out many years later, when speaking with the gent, that one of the Port Chester vollies that fought the above mentioned Chatsworth Avenue fire was the celebrated ABC News Washington correspondent and often Presidential debate moderator Hal Bruno. Hal was until his passing one of the great champions of the Fire Service and officiated at many Fire related events.His DC influence was of great help with pro fire legislation.
If I recall, he related a story about being injured at this fire or overcome, as this wouldn't be a surprise, as this was still a time when Scotts were kept in suitcases.
Now just over the bridge from the Chatsworth fire was the Larchmont business district that burned very frequently during the 1970's and into the 1980's with some huge taxpayer and multiple dwelling fires, again before LDH so lots of 2.5 supply lines stretched for blocks, plenty of fire for a generation of Sound Shore firefighters during this period in just a few blocks.

I found out many years later, when speaking with the gent, that one of the Port Chester vollies that fought the above mentioned Chatsworth Avenue fire was the celebrated ABC News Washington correspondent and often Presidential debate moderator Hal Bruno. Hal was until his passing one of the great champions of the Fire Service and officiated at many Fire related events.His DC influence was of great help with pro fire legislation.
If I recall, he related a story about being injured at this fire or overcome, as this wouldn't be a surprise, as this was still a time when Scotts were kept in suitcases.
Now just over the bridge from the Chatsworth fire was the Larchmont business district that burned very frequently during the 1970's and into the 1980's with some huge taxpayer and multiple dwelling fires, again before LDH so lots of 2.5 supply lines stretched for blocks, plenty of fire for a generation of Sound Shore firefighters during this period in just a few blocks.

I recall a couple in Yonkers that were huge and water was a problem -Oak Street where about 14 buildings went and of course the carpet shop fire off Lake Avenue with all it's exposure problems
Now in New Rochelle NRHS fire in 68 had the advantage of Mutual Aid units drafting from the lakes out front. that was one of the largest fires in the USA that year. Also in New Ro the Crabtree explosion that killed folks, injured scores and destroyed several large commercial buildings.
We often take water for granted,at the World Trade Center who would think water would ever be a problem, but it was when the towers fell and broke the water mains under the street and uncontrolled fires became a real problem, fireboats came in real handy both active and retired vessels.
With Homeland Security funding Jersey bought three huge pumping units with very large diameter hose,way bigger than 5in., these units were called Neptune Systems and could produce huge amounts of water for long distances, wonder if they were called in.