streetdoc

Never forget !

Controversy and media attention is what these “fringe” groups feed off of, the best way we can honor our fallen brothers is by ignoring these groups.

How do you say good bye, when your not ready........we'll miss you Dr. D

Congrats

Nice job

Years ago I had a good friend (no names) that was a vegetarian, he never had any problems. He was in 4 companies, truck then rescue as a firefighter, truck as a Lt. and truck as a Capt. The historical firehouse kitchen culture is sacred, but so is brotherhood, 6 companies in 8 years is not a diet issue, this will never make it into the mainstrean or even the fringe media, so it is up to the members of this board to keep the truth flowing. To M' AVE this person is not an embarrassment to your job, he's an embarrassment to himself, we see him for what he is, using this "diet" issue as as means to an end for personal gain, stay strong your brothers know the truth.

Propper BDU's

There is a legal term, I think called "caveat superior" (My HS latin teacher would croak!) that says that if you are working for someone and do what they tell you, then HE is on the hook for what you do.

Sympathomedic, you are correct the name of the Doctrine is RESPONDEAT SUPERIOR (let the master respond) it is a legal doctrine holding "employers" liable for the wrongful acts of their agents (employees). It is also known as VICARIOUS LIABILITY; an employer is answerable for the tort (negligent acts) committed by employees. Two things must exist for this tort to hold up 1. A master-servant relationship must exist between the employer and employee. 2. The wrongful act of the employee MUST have occurred within the SCOPE of his employment. Once again get a hold of your department's policies and or SOP's and stay within the scope. PFD there are no stupid questions, be safe

I would agree with was, consult a lawyer your best bet is through the American Ambulance Association. I would also check with your chief in regards to acting as an EMT at a fire scene, ask for a written opinion, and check your SOP’s and department policies. Since your department is not an ems first response agency, your civil exposure is little to none. To establish negligence under the duty to act doctrine a relationship must exist between the caregiver and the patient, since you are acting in the capacity of a firefighter (with no policies or sop’s for patient care) a relationship cannot be established. There are three basic forms of civil negligence

1. Malfeasance: the performance of an unlawful act

2. Misfeasance: improper performance of an act

3. Nonfeasance: failure to act when there is a duty to act (which you do not have under your current department regs)

For negligence to exist or rise to the level where a plaintiff can recover damages four elements must be met.

1. Duty to care

2. Breach of duty

3. Injury

4. Causation

As long as you follow your department’s policies and SOP’s your personal liability is basically non-existent.

Tasteless and another example of a lack of accountability.

Okay, so we can put you down for option 1 then?

ESU can do every damn car accident in the city, not one fire house would give a rats behind. But do it correctly. And I was involved in an incident with ESU where a member was injured quite severely, guess who was treating him, ME! If Ray Kelly wasn't pulling the strings things would be like every other City in the USA, police doing criminal actions, FD doing rescues and fires. You would be better off not even posting cause at some point its going to back fire on your little side job money maker.

You are an embarrassment to every FDNY member and every fire fighter EVERYBODYGOES it’s time you followed them and went yourself

I think its just a simple matter of everyone helping to achieve the same goal...helping someone in need, whats wrong with that? I believe your example is a bit far fetched and over dramatic, an electrician performing open heart surgery is no where near accurate enough to explain two state troopers answering a call of help from a local volunteer fire chief whom they probably know from working together in the field anyway and were all too happy to help. These guys held a hand line, outside the building, away from the heat and smoke, and allowed other trained firefighters to do the more important work in the hot zone such as overhaul, salvage, and final extinguishment.

I think we are all over reacting a little here...

Not for nothing, but in your previous post you were supporting the help offered you by the local PD when short handed, and now you are against it? Which side of the fence are you on here? LOL

I agree with these comments, we are all here for the same reasons, helping others in their time of need. If I was working a large fire and operating exterior lines for hours and was asked by a local cop or state trooper if I needed help holding the line I would gratefully accept their help and guide them as to what they could do to help.

On the flip side, If I saw a PD Officer getting attacked by a group of people, I would grab the nearest hard object and start swinging, or do WHATEVER I could to help them. I did just that one evening when working my FT EMS gig years ago. Our station is within minutes of the local SUNY campus, one evening we were jsut sitting down for dinner when the scanner came alive with a screaming SUNY cop saying he was being chased by a mob of college students through the quad and was calling for all available help from village PD and State Troopers. My partner and I jumped into our rig and started for the campus, lights and sirens blaring in hopes that the sirens would alert the students and make them run. When we arrived on scene, the SUNY cop was being held down and maced with his own mace by a group of 5 students. They saw us and ran away, giving us time to pull up next to the cop and pull him into our ambulance and drove away to safety before the kids realized it was only an EMS rig and tried to come and finish what they started.

We flushed his eyes and took him to the local ER for evaluation. What would have happened to this guy if we didnt show up? What if we just simply said "To hell with that, our pizza will get cold."???? Does any of the law enforcement gang here think we did wrong and wish to tell us to do our jobs and let them do theirs or did we do the right thing??

We work together, we have to, no one else will help.

BFD1054

Umm, why is this news?

Maybe i am wrong, but arent we hear to respond to alarms? Yes, a high percentage of alarms are false, so what? Smells and bells and in many places EMS runs, make up a large percentage of responses. But again, this is why we are here, no?

There is a reason the alarm went off, this is why we need to respond and investigate. If we find it was "food on the stove" or dust or what have you, so be it.

What is the alternative? Send a PD unit or just a Chief to "check and advise?" Like the boy who cried wolf, there will be the 1 time its an active fire and you'll be caught with your pants down.

Im sorry if you get annoyed at false alarms, but its part of the "job."

What "Job" are you on ?

but its part of the "job." ???? really

I was assaulted by a patient Memorial Day weekend. The patient was having a subarachnoid hemorrhage and had no real motor control. He could move limbs, breathe, blink etc but had no control of these processes. While we were in the process of attempting an IV I got slugged right in the eye. After detailing this in my PCR and writing up my injury report and having it forwarded to our PD, it was decided that although the "hit" constituted an assault during official duties, no charges were to be filed considering the nature of the circumstances. It didn't help that he was a vegetable either...

dont believe they are armed but do have Peace Officer powers under the CPL.

they are not part of Yonkers PD. employed solely by the Raceway. there's been ongoing arguments about using the term "Police" on their patch, similar to the arguments regarding NYC Homeless Police, Hospital Police, Sanitiation Police etc. dont think its going anywhere and I dont think the regulars frankly care enough to make a big stink about it.

In the City of New York Sanitiation Police ARE Police officers with full police powers.

Sorry I shouldn't expect someone to know their job or the locale they work, or the fact that saying you would need to access this point from either 9a entrance to the TSP or from P'ville road. Same thing happens when you call NYC 911, you get some dope who asks you for an exit number, sorry, 233 st is not exact enough for you? Yet another reason I usually never call to initiate help for people. And just note that the prior times calling all the MEN I spoke to were professional as could be!

You must be very popular at your firehouse, it is always nice to have some one around that knows everything and never makes mistakes. It is also nice to know and I'm sure you take pride in the fact you "ususally never call to initiate help for people"

Rest in peace, brothers.