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This topic isn't meant to pick on any dept. but do bad response times possibly put the community we are sworn to protect in danger?

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Discuss your department's chimney fire tactics...residential dwellings.
Do you use "chains" to knock the crap off the walls?
Plastic baggies with dry chem? Chimfex?
Stretch a line or not?

Well I am glad some can actually past the BS and nonsense and take some good from this post. Yes, it could have been taken as stirring the pot, and I will admit - it may have been - a little. BUT..I KNOW those vollies who post here, who are active in conversations, to gain knowledge and information from the more esteemed members ARE NOT THE TYPE WHO WOULD CALL IT A DAY IF THE TOOK AWAY THE BELOVED WHOOPIE LIGHTS. You, and I do it for the right reasons..
Barry nailed it - the young fellar in question who I saw, at a local gas station talking to his other young buddy, was driving a raggedy a** pick up, dual whip antennas, primer, bondo, stickers UP THE WAZOO, a dash light, lights in the rear window, and the holy grail of buffiness, a shiny new full length LED bar with yellow, blue, and red to the back (he turned it on to show his buddy)...His buddy laughed, said it was illegal and the Chief might make him take it off...his reply, "Hell with that! i'll quit first!"
For the record - I used to have a bazillion whoopie lights on my vehicles..(Seth can attest to that! LOL!)....got in trouble a few times too..actually had a Chief with BALLS who took them away for 3 months. I slowly learned my lesson.
It aint about lights...stickers...LOSAP...etc...It's about doing the right thing. Doing all you can to be the BEST firefighter you can...learning, training, and applying.
To those who cry shhut this topic down, perhaps the truth hurts?

That was my next question - hpw many departments treat chimney fires as an actual house fire? Take aproactive approach in case of extension, as opposed to reactive?
Or are we too "non-chalant" about them?

Wow...really? Was there a past injury or something that made the department look to avoid the roof?
Do you guys have an aerial?

Discuss your department's chimney fire tactics...residential dwellings.
Do you use "chains" to knock the crap off the walls?
Plastic baggies with dry chem? Chimfex?
Stretch a line or not?

Well I am glad some can actually past the BS and nonsense and take some good from this post. Yes, it could have been taken as stirring the pot, and I will admit - it may have been - a little. BUT..I KNOW those vollies who post here, who are active in conversations, to gain knowledge and information from the more esteemed members ARE NOT THE TYPE WHO WOULD CALL IT A DAY IF THE TOOK AWAY THE BELOVED WHOOPIE LIGHTS. You, and I do it for the right reasons..
Barry nailed it - the young fellar in question who I saw, at a local gas station talking to his other young buddy, was driving a raggedy a** pick up, dual whip antennas, primer, bondo, stickers UP THE WAZOO, a dash light, lights in the rear window, and the holy grail of buffiness, a shiny new full length LED bar with yellow, blue, and red to the back (he turned it on to show his buddy)...His buddy laughed, said it was illegal and the Chief might make him take it off...his reply, "Hell with that! i'll quit first!"
For the record - I used to have a bazillion whoopie lights on my vehicles..(Seth can attest to that! LOL!)....got in trouble a few times too..actually had a Chief with BALLS who took them away for 3 months. I slowly learned my lesson.
It aint about lights...stickers...LOSAP...etc...It's about doing the right thing. Doing all you can to be the BEST firefighter you can...learning, training, and applying.
To those who cry shhut this topic down, perhaps the truth hurts?

I don't post on here often, and when I do I keep my posts to a minimum. I like to get involved in debates about sensitive issues just as much as some other members do, but I don't get involved in serious debates on this site because you say one thing and right away 10 people are crying that you're bashing or criticizing. Quite frankly, it's a turn off for a lot of people who may be able to contribute positively to the forum, but don't want to get all mixed up in the nonsense.
I don't think that outright attacks should exist in this forum. I don't think this forum should become the equivalent of an NYPD Rant type forum where a bunch of disgruntled emergency services personnel talk about who is the worst paramedic, or the laziest cop, or the buffiest firefighter. I think this forum should remain a constructive place for local emergency services personnel to debate and discuss the issues that exist in emergency services, whether at the local or national level. Chris192's post in the other thread related to this topic is a perfect response I think... if only I could put it so eloquently, but honestly I don't care much about being eloquent.
Emergency services personnel generally have Alpha/dominant personalities. They're leaders, they face things that the general public does not face, and we do things that the general public does not do. Having an alpha personality means sometimes you have to grow some thick skin. If someone throws a jab at volunteers, don't cry about it. Come up with an educated rebuttal that disputes what that member is saying. Problems exist across the board with paid, volunteer, and combination departments. Discussing these problems is not bashing, it's a discussion to talk about the problems that exist. If you don't like the fact that your agency has faults that someone pointed out in this forum, get over it. Maybe the points brought up here are valid points, so instead of crying about it, do something about it. Make necessary changes, ask how things can be improved, ask what you can do to bring your agency up to the recognized standards.
The simple fact is that in an area where there is so much diversity amongst its emergency service personnel, there's always going to be conflict and debates. Just because someone's views on a certain person, agency, service, or method of doing things aren't your own views, as JFLYNN says, QTIP.
I can only hope that too many members of the general public don't read the nonsense that goes on here. Some of the threads are fantastic, with great input from a lot of educated and experienced individuals. The moderators do an excellent job of weeding out posts that are not constructive.
While I don't personally know you Seth, I know you value this forum for what it is and I know that you and the staff have put a lot of time, effort, and money into creating this forum. All I can say is, don't let all the petty complaints and other nonsense get to you. If people have a problem with things that are said here or topics that arise, let them move on, and find another forum where everyone holds hands and sings songs around a campfire. If they choose not to move on, then they are going to have to learn not to be so sensitive and grow some thicker skin.

Here is a map of all Manhattan Firehouses from NYCFire.net.

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Saw the smoke.....had the baby, the trailer, and the quad....NO WAY was I going down that road and have to BACK OUT! LOL!
Excellent stop!