billy98988

I was the one who posted the Incident Alert about this last night. I had been listening to the scanner on and off, but was only getting bits and pieces. I knew there was a water rescue of some sort, that was about it. Later on i heard that it was for a vehicle in the water.
As i drove to work this morning, i heard the horrific news on the radio. I was stunned and literally sick to my stomach.
I cant say much more that hasn't already been said. JBE hit the nail on the head as many others have.
All i can say is that my heart goes out to those poor children and to the sole survivor. He is 10 years old, old enough to know what he saw and went through. As JBE stated, there will be a special place in hell for the "mother."
Also, im glad to see that soo many of you have included the emergency service members who were involved in this incident. This is one of those calls that you could never prepare for and will never be forgotten. My thoughts go out to those Fire, Police and EMS members who were involved.

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My department holds them in December and the term starts January 1st. I absolutely HATE elections because they are nothing but a popularity contest and the best people for the job usually walk away losers because the membership doesn't care about the important things only who they like more. I wish departments would do away with elections and have strict promotional rules and regulations based on expirence and training rather then who is liked more.
End of rant!

Date: 3/31/2011
Time: 1510
Location: 382 RTE. 17M
Frequency: OC-911
Units Operating: Monroe FD, Woodbury FD, South Blooming Grove FD, Monroe PD, Monroe EMS
Weather Conditions: Cold/Cloudy
Description Of Incident: Fire in a residential structure.
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If I came across the wrong way, I apologize. I really didn't mean to offend anyone or be inflamatory. Don't read into my statements more then they are meant to be. Whatever I said, caused a discussion in where I learned a lot. It was interesting reading everyone's viewpoints. It really is two seperate worlds. What works down here might not work in NY, and vice versa.
This is something on my mind since I had a discussion with some friends down here about the ESU or Rescue concept working in Texas. There was really no interest, since fire and EMS already provide that service. Many of them stated they'd rather have more officers on the street, or progress in different roles in the department. They did say that NY has a tremendous infastructure and a lot more incidents, so they understood the need for "all hands on deck". I thought I'd present the topic here, but went about it the wrong way.
Please don't label me a "cop hater", because that's not who I am. Regardless of my experience, I'm entitled to have a viewpoint and opinion. I have NOTHING against law enforcement or an "axe to grind", anyone who really knows me knows that I am very supportive of law enforcement, both through this site and personally. I was a Police Dispatcher for the busiest sector of the city I worked for. I do free photography for local police unions at special events and for their personal and professional uses, and I volunteer as a lead advisor of a Police Explorer post to get tommorow's generation interested and ready for a succesful law enforcement career. I also try to support LEO causes through this website as much as I can.
I'm glad we have the knowledgeable members of law enforcement active on this forum as we do, and hope I didn't do anything to comprimise future postings from members in this thread.
Looking at my first post, it was really stupid the way I worded it. However, the Houston investigation, I do stand 100% behind what I said.
As an apology for creating this mess, I've made a donation of $25 (all I can afford right now) to the National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund.

Ive read this post many times and I still fail to see the reason for posting it but it most certainly requires a response.
From what I know of you, you have no background in Law Enforcement so your ideas of how cops should feel about being cops and what they should do on duty may be how it is in a perfect world but in reality thats not how it works. This would be like me who knows nothing of fire fighting making critical observations about the fire service and putting all over the post " No offense guys" and " this is not a knock to firefighters".
As far as I've seen, you're the only member on here from texas so you are the only one who could answer your own question of " why are police officers down here so different ?"
I've been a cop for 12 years and I go balls to the wall every day I go into work as do most cops I know. Would it be nice to follow up with every crime victim we deal with ? Yes but we don't have the time or the manpower to do that stuff. How do you know that cops up here don't know their post as well as cops in Texas ?
Cops are in a unique situation to be cross trained in rescue, where as FD's can't be trained in law enforcement specific things... thats just the way it is.
You ask why is there competition ? There always has and always will be competiton in the emergency services and it's healthy to a degree.
You ask why are there not more hudson river patrols ? There are in the summer but not so much in the winter but what does one thing have to do with the other ?
The bottom line is that expanding the scope of your working capabilities means more job security and possibly more state and federal funding.
The biggest difference between cops up here and cops in texas is that maybe cops in texas enjoy a lot more community support than cops in the north east get.

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