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So what is new found point for negative points?
I see no need and they can easily turn into a way to get back at some one and eventually turn into a personal attach issue. We had this on a different forum I was on.

My Dept. went on a walk through of a 5 story commercial building almost across the street from Station 5 last fall. In the 1st floor is Five Guys Burgers, A Pizza restaurant, and 3 vacant retail locations. Floors 2, 3 and 4 are Medical Offices with 3rd being Medical Records. Floor 5 is also Vacant. During our walk through give by the building owner we had full access to ALL areas of the building including Fire pump Shed, Roof, Kitchens, Electrical Rooms, and mechanical areas. One interesting thing we all took away from the tour was that in the area between the FDC and the alarm panel is a 1500 gallon Waste Oil tank for 5 Guys Burgers. We were surprised since the tank is centered on the far wall of the building as 5 Guys.

So what is new found point for negative points?
I see no need and they can easily turn into a way to get back at some one and eventually turn into a personal attach issue. We had this on a different forum I was on.

No one said this yet, but look at the turnout gear they are wearing. One guy's pants are too short, mismatched colors, and the gear looks to be extremely old and probably not NFPA certifiable. I'm not saying it's right, but many departments are not able to afford the gear they need.

Thicker skin is a must, treat conversations as if you were face to face ( Put your real name in your profile) No censorship My 2 cents

Don't really care what it says on the ambulance or what they should be called . I could care less if its a paid service or volunteer service. The more important issue is the response times, and the ability to cover 2nd, and 3rd calls.
Everything else is trivial .

Why would the name continue to have "Volunteer" in it? It is deceptive and an insult to actual volunteer agencies......

My point is it never should have been a "swift water rescue" It was a dog. What are you doing dropping a guy out of a helicopter into a rain swollen river, putting his life on the line for a dog. Then to boot, he gets injured by the dog

Whats the big deal most hydrants are owned by the water dept not the fire dept to start. The MTA has been renting out ad space on buses, bus stops, subway stations, and so on for years and I don't hear anyone complaining even though we just spent how much to bail out the MTA?????
If some one wants to pay to put an ad up great but I hope the money gos to make sure that the hydrant works.

State Fire administrator has authority to create additional teams
NYC = NYTF-1
Capital District Team = NYTF-2
They have not designated any additional teams because they claim they do not have the resources ($$$$$)to validate any others at this time.
The Career Chief's have a template which utililzes over 9 dept's - The Yonkers team as well as the Squads from other career dep'ts.
Yonkers recently deployed over 50 personnel with a squad from Greenville (for a total of just under 60) to the Buffalo area for operation Vigiant Guard for a 4 day exercise. Outside of the 2 teams mentioned above there were no other NY resources there that were even close to our capabiltiy.
Why do I point this out - it is becasue of the politics on the County and state level of pandering to every little group out there that wants to be a State team. The state knows if they acknowledge any additional groups it would create a "me too" effect and they would not want to stir up that hornets nest state wide.
The career depts in Westchester have trained, have a "real" track record and the resources to be designated a state team - It has always been my contention that these other teams are a drain on the system and create unneccessary duplication and competion for the limited resources available ($$$$$)
All the nice tales of training twice a month and having been activated (????) all sound nice but we all know the the truth - but no one wants to hear it or say it
But it all boils down to they don't want to hurt any ones feelings by telling them they are not needed or especially never going to be capable of measuring up to what they say they can be.
"The Emperor has no clothes", Don't upset the apple cart - that is the underlying message
Maybe the new C/E Rob Astorino if he is really concerned about cutting ($$$$$$) will realize that the County Hazmat & Tech Rescue team would be nice to have but are really a waste of resources that are already provided through other dept's - they all want to talk about sharing resources but they certainly don't want to offend anybody. Especially all of of the volunteer (aka voters) team members and fire fighters.
So go ahead and bang my post with the negative rep points - the more attention that is brought to it maybe the truth will finally surface - and that is all I have to say about that!