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Our agency sells alot of items on ebay, we are in the process of clearing the firehouse as our facility is slated for closure on December 31, 2013, some items are a hose dryer, 6 bottle cascade system and some over 100 + expired fire extinguishers to name a few items.

But no logs or brush?

I don't mean to be offensive, but I find it an odd contradiction that you want a 9g holder for gloves but your profile picture shows a young child without any protection sitting on a pair of monitors.

Pumper tankers are great when they are first due, who wouldn't want 2500 gallons right away? Depending on the call, that truck may be all you need. They are a bear if they are in a tanker shuttle because of the length and ability to navigate what is usually tight quarters. As mentioned the height brings it's own challenges as well.

The 2642 master key in the article is a city wide elevator key not a door key.

Ridgefield is staffed with how many? 2, 3 guys? You dont think SSFD can muster up that many? How many runs do they do a year? How many workers?

If they cant staff it then I agree this is a bad move.

Ridgefield has career staffing minimum of 6 or 7 and 45-50 vols on the fire side.

It's a shame they put bike tires on it.

Your scenario really has nothing to do with the topic at hand, no offense. That is a totally different topic, although I think you will get plenty of responses saying that nobody would sacrifice a call to keep a truck clean. When I was the chief of my department we had everything planned out to handle calls before during and after parades. I think you will find most do the same.

Sonny, you really need to lighten up! This wasn't an annual inspection or an emergency response. It was a parade and they were having fun, as they should. I thought it was funny and I knew none of the back story or the relationship between Mill Plains and Brewster (thanks FitzJr for sharing).

I think the "skit" as fitz described it is a pleasant distraction from the line of trucks and the rigid formations of uniforms. So people may not have known the inner workings of the relationship between the departments but they had to laugh at the folly and the departure from the norm.

Personally, I'm glad someone was having fun! "LIKE" to the boys (and girls) from Mill Plains.

Totally agree. A very nice departure from the norm, there should always be room for a little levity whether you are in on the joke or not.

Oooops , just realized you were talking about the roof line behind the 2010! It is such a good spy shot the subject is barely there.

That can't be a 2013, the body style changed in the 2011 MY to the more rounded version. Best it can be is 2010.

You ask lots of questions about other people's stuff. Just saying.

ATF is a federal agency, so there is no difference anywhere.

It will look really good once it's ripe.

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I've got a couple of patches coming your way. Haven't found small shirts yet.

They are in the mail today.

Thank you to all who have sent items for Christopher. May you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

I've got a couple of patches coming your way. Haven't found small shirts yet.

Actually sounds like a great idea. Perhaps we can arrange for patches and shirts to be mailed to HFD where they can then be delivered to Christopher instead of disclosing his personal address in a public forum.

That's the direction I was headed.

Anyone have an address where we could send shirts and patches?

And don't forget Noroton Height's fleet of CF's while we are talking about exhaust placement - they take their stacks out of the middle of the truck between the body and cab. Looks great, keeps everything up and away and in most cases no danger of grabbing something hot.

Hard to have an exhaust capture system in the bay if its up like that.

There are two ways I've seen the capture on stacks...on the stack as well as off a diverter at the bottom elbow. In the capture mode a flapper closes off the stack. It actually works out nicely because the driver has a switch to divert the flow and you can run open exhaust.

Anyone know the results of the Katonah Parade?

Ridgefield won Best Out of State and Best Tanker.

Sigh....I hate this

I for one...actually LOVE parades...I like to march in them...I like the brotherhood and comeraderie of them..I like putting on my Class A for a reason other than someone who died..I love beer...I love to hear my kids yelling "There's my Daddy!" as they point to me with their freinds...I love the pride associated with being a member of a department who routinely wins trophies...

Parades are good.

Are they a TRUE indicator of a department's fire and emergency mitigation skills? Nope....

Are some of the WJA rules outdated, nonsensical, and somewhat against proper firefighting? Yep...and I hate those rules....but it is what it is.

16Fire5...I don't know if they are "illegal", but most departments prefer "parade lays" for crosslays....and I for one don't like that..it is a b**** to pull a "parade lay" off of these monster engines we spec these days...especially with gloves on..

In regards to hair, beards, and peircings...MY department, who is very serious about marching, will not let anyone on the street with facial hair, be it a goatee, fu-man-chu, or even stubble...it's a dry shave at line up or you can sit and watch. Long hair MUST be put up...we are serious about appearance...and yes...we get off of the floor routinely for alarms as well..

It is easy to sit back and say, "why do these departments get 30 guys on the street, but they can't get a peice off of the floor for a fire call?" Well...THOSE departments are the ones you see with 3, 4, or 5 guys on the street at parades. or just a rig with no guys marching....NOT every department has a ton of people who march..not every departmnet has a ton of people period.

Not everyone who marches drinks either ....(I tend too... )....in fact, most departments do not even supply beer before the parade - just water to keep their guys hydrarted...which is a good reason to have friends in other departments...take a stroll, shoot the bull, and steal a beer!

Perhaps hypocritical, I do not agree with taking a truck and a large portion of a membership out of the area for a parade..like Lake George..Nope...don't agree with that one bit..I think a rig should be in a position to be able to respond to an alarm if need be...but then again, do the Judges gig you if the crew has their turnout geat left in the cab????

Like them or not - parades are an important part of the Fire Service's history and romance....

I was not going to comment anymore on this, but needed to say I agree 100%. I can almost hear the bag pipes playing. Oh wait, I can, I've got them on Pandora right now. Kind of funny that those who feel "I'm so into fighting fires that I would never consider taking a parade seriously" take quibbling about parades so seriously. Again, to each his own. NOW, I'm out.

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"16- Missing equipment will be subject to three (3) demerits each."

How do they know whats missing?

How about an empty bracket, that might give it away.

im sorry but i thought the reason we spend all the money on there fire trucks and aparratus is to work on fire scenes and get memebrrs there safely.. not to look pretty in a parade granted winning a trohpy is great .i can tell you i had missing equipment on my truck at the parade cause we had a fire on tuesday and i had to take my chainsaw out of service.. sorry but im not gunna rush a piece of equipment to go back in servie soo it can fill and open spot in my compartment..

I don't think anyone suggested you do that. Question was asked and answered, and you seem to be taking it a bit personally. I'm on board with #37 and #38, and quite honestly leaving the topic completely would be even better. This is nit picking hen's talk. To each his own. Peace out.

Nope, just trying to figure if its the biggest, longest, most expensive most lights or one that actually was designed to fight a fire.

After reading the rules, thats not one of the requirements.

The rules are very interesting. NFPA and OSHA standards are easier and simpler. A lot of work went into these. Lets look at a few:

"Judging will not be performed within fifty (50) feet of any corner, at any sharp bend, at any steep grade, or at any encumbrance in the Line of March, except by those judging Apparatus. No judging will occur while a unit is stopped, stopping or starting."

So lets throw out safety and most dept. SOP's. Amazing that no judges have been run over.

That's for the marching part of the unit becuase you lose cadence at corners and at rest. Part of the judging is for being in step which is hard to judge when nobody is moving.

"Talking, Waving, Laughing, Chewing Gum, Sobriety, Smoking. Ten (10) demerits each."

Yep, you never see these things at a parade.

Not in the line of march for units being judged you don't. Or take the 10 point hit.

"10- Haircuts and beards shall be neat and well kept. If the hair is not neat trimmed or is disheveled it is subject to five (5) demerits. There is no rule on hair length. The rule refers to appearance."

Beards are ok in the fire service?

All membership is eligible to march, juniors, fire police, support personnel and ladies auxiliary (I think the beard thing is for them).

"1 - All apparatus and vehicles must drive to rear of last group. Maximum spacing is twenty (20) feet from last group and twenty (20) feet between each apparatus and vehicle. Two (2) demerits each."

20 feet, sounds like tailgating to me, what does traffic law say on this one?

At 2 mph, 20 feet is not so close.

"16- Missing equipment will be subject to three (3) demerits each."

How do they know whats missing?

How about an empty bracket, that might give it away.

"17- Refreshments or non-firematic equipment are not permitted on apparatus or vehicles. Five (5)demerits."

So who carries the beer? THis also explains the MCI's that have occured at a few parades when everyone drops from the heat.

There is plenty to drink before at after parades, you cannot carry the coolers in vehicles being judged. Or you can, and take the demerits.

"18- Current dated inspection tags must be on extinguisher. Two (2) demerits each."

I guess these depts don't actually use extingushers to fight fires with

It isn't so hard to keep them tagged.

"21- Additional demerits for Pumpers: Covered hose beds Ten (10) demerits (Full covers need not be completely removed, but must allow hose bed viewing for inspection.)"

In violation of NFPA Standards.

I believe you are reading this one backwards, you lose points for the hose covers which in effect supports the NFPA view. .

And the one the explains why depts in Westchester can never consolidate: "Two or more Departments marching together as One Unit are disqualified."

If they consolidated they would be, um, one department.

How about we do away with the trophies and judging and just march and wave to the kids. Who cares if my firetruck is cleaner than yours?

There are plenty of depts that do just that, the other do that and compete. Seems to be a harmless win-win to me.

They will open the door of a moving vehicle to check for safety. Yes, someone found logic in this.

the driver stops for the cab door, the compartments are opened while underway, unless the parade happens to be stopped.