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That is plain crazy. Every single tool, accessory, etc better be included.... Literally... Radios, portables, TIC, tough book, ball and a s s tickler...

That is plain crazy. Every single tool, accessory, etc better be included.... Literally... Radios, portables, TIC, tough book, ball and a s s tickler...

That is plain crazy. Every single tool, accessory, etc better be included.... Literally... Radios, portables, TIC, tough book, ball and a s s tickler...

Just my opinion having served on two.... Chief officer, line officer, experienced firefighter/operator, representative from board of commissioners or whomever is cutting the check.

Just my opinion having served on two.... Chief officer, line officer, experienced firefighter/operator, representative from board of commissioners or whomever is cutting the check.

This statement alone defines the health of most fire departments, rural or not, paid or not.

Used a similar system in a previous life... When you'd mark up as responding, if you said Engine X is responding, it was implied that you had a full complement of folks on board that met the requirement for the type of job you were going to. If not, you said Engine X is responding "lite with 3" or "lite with 1"... The number being the number of individuals who were qualified for the type of job you were going to. This way the IC while still enroute could determine if he was going to assign or call for additional resources.

This statement alone defines the health of most fire departments, rural or not, paid or not.

This statement alone defines the health of most fire departments, rural or not, paid or not.

I see your point of view regarding "if you had to... you could".... But this seems too risky to train on for me. No harness, not tied off, and you are putting a level of stress on the ladder that it wasn't designed to hold. I'm not an expert on ground ladder capacities and testing, but the strength of the ground ladder is dependent on much of the force being transmitted down to the ground. In this case 100% of the force is being transmitted the opposite way.... The exact same way that aerial devices typically fail.

I see your point of view regarding "if you had to... you could".... But this seems too risky to train on for me. No harness, not tied off, and you are putting a level of stress on the ladder that it wasn't designed to hold. I'm not an expert on ground ladder capacities and testing, but the strength of the ground ladder is dependent on much of the force being transmitted down to the ground. In this case 100% of the force is being transmitted the opposite way.... The exact same way that aerial devices typically fail.

The amount of movement that even a modern aerial has far exceeds the overhang buffer that the ground ladder has either to the top of the parapit or to the tip of the stick. The guy has no climbing harness or other PPE to support this type of adventure either. Even if you could tie it off the chances of failure for this system seem high but I'm unfamiliar with its use. I'd cut the tree down and put the stick up to the building if it was a legitimate job requiring roof access.

I'll admit it, I'm a rail fan. Not so much for the railroad industry but for the motive equipment. I'm am equal fan of the trucking and maritime business. If it has combustion engine for motive power, I like it.

They've got a 75ft Quint and are surrounded by a ocean of tower ladders.

They've got a 75ft Quint and are surrounded by a ocean of tower ladders.

Stewart didn't race today. Regan Smith drove for him. The kid in the video ran towards him and the goosing of the throttle that you saw was him trying to turn the car to the bottom of the track. The only way to get a sprint car to turn quickly is to use the throttle. Watch the way they race. The car is designed to race sideways and thus it doesn't like to turn moving slow.
EDIT:
Your thought about him trying to spray Ward with dirt makes no sense as well. These are hard packed clay (most of the time) tracks. There is little to no spraying of dirt on a night like last night.

Those were semi open cabs... They had doors.
A true open cab had no doors.
The typical 1980's closed driver/officer with open jump seat is a canopy cab.
Today's rigs are enclosed cab.

Not true. We have been going thru many minor parts that are critical to keeping the rigs in-service. Door handles are a big item. if you can't close the door you are out of service and they are an ALF only part. Lots of other minor issues that are critical.
Also LTI components are an issue.

With regard to The Villages.... Apples to Elephants comparison....
For fire protection it is an IAFF local. For EMS, for about a decade ending in 2011 Lake/Sumter EMS (Lake County, FL and Sumter County, FL) provided EMS as a bi-county municipal entity. In 2011 Sumter County opted out of the bi-county agreement that established Lake/Sumter EMS and contracted with Rural Metro. Lake County decided that the previous model was still efficient and merely removed the Sumter half of the logos from the rigs and went on operating as is.... This is an apples to watermelons comparison with regard to anything in Westchester....
The Rural Metro has the contract for ALL of Sumter County which is 580/sq miles and has a population of 101,600. Within Sumter County, 51,500 of the 101,600 residents are located within The Villages which is 5.5sq miles which includes the hospital of choice for transporting within Sumter County. So R/M gets a major economy of scale. A contract for 101,000 folks where nearly half of them (the half that are most likely to have medical issues and who ALL have Medicare as their reliable healthcare payor source) are living in a 5.5sq mile area with a hospital right down the road. Lesson here.... You've got a captive group of folks who all have a reliable means of reimbursing an ambulance service making up half the lives that are covered in the County contract all living within spitting distance of each other AND the hospital. NO BRAINER.
Eastchester you might say is very similar... 32,500 residents in 5sq miles with a hospital nearby. Thats where the similarities end. R/M doesn't have the contract for ALL of Westchester County nor will they ever get it. So if R/M goes it alone in Eastchester they have no economy of scale, the median age is is 40 years old vs. 66 years old in the Villages and thus the payor mix for reimbursement is going to be vastly different than it is for the Villages where everyone has coverage and work will be consistent to say the least.. Lesson here... EMS in Eastchester is NOTHING like EMS in The Villages AND.... Rural Metro doesn't do a good job of running fire departments in heavily populated areas. They currently have Fire Contracts for Pima, Pinal, and Yuma County Arizona whose population density ranges from 36 people/sq mile to 107 people/sq mile. Their other two fire contracts are for Knox County, TN at 751P/sq mile and Josaphine County, OR at 50P/sq mile. Eastchester has a population density of 6,500P/sq mile and Westchester County as a hole has a population density of 2200P/sq mile. Providing fire protection in Westchester, especially Southern Westchester is NOTHING like Sumter County Florida where the County covers most of the unincorporated areas with an IAFF local and the Villages has a stand alone IAFF department.

With regard to The Villages.... Apples to Elephants comparison....
For fire protection it is an IAFF local. For EMS, for about a decade ending in 2011 Lake/Sumter EMS (Lake County, FL and Sumter County, FL) provided EMS as a bi-county municipal entity. In 2011 Sumter County opted out of the bi-county agreement that established Lake/Sumter EMS and contracted with Rural Metro. Lake County decided that the previous model was still efficient and merely removed the Sumter half of the logos from the rigs and went on operating as is.... This is an apples to watermelons comparison with regard to anything in Westchester....
The Rural Metro has the contract for ALL of Sumter County which is 580/sq miles and has a population of 101,600. Within Sumter County, 51,500 of the 101,600 residents are located within The Villages which is 5.5sq miles which includes the hospital of choice for transporting within Sumter County. So R/M gets a major economy of scale. A contract for 101,000 folks where nearly half of them (the half that are most likely to have medical issues and who ALL have Medicare as their reliable healthcare payor source) are living in a 5.5sq mile area with a hospital right down the road. Lesson here.... You've got a captive group of folks who all have a reliable means of reimbursing an ambulance service making up half the lives that are covered in the County contract all living within spitting distance of each other AND the hospital. NO BRAINER.
Eastchester you might say is very similar... 32,500 residents in 5sq miles with a hospital nearby. Thats where the similarities end. R/M doesn't have the contract for ALL of Westchester County nor will they ever get it. So if R/M goes it alone in Eastchester they have no economy of scale, the median age is is 40 years old vs. 66 years old in the Villages and thus the payor mix for reimbursement is going to be vastly different than it is for the Villages where everyone has coverage and work will be consistent to say the least.. Lesson here... EMS in Eastchester is NOTHING like EMS in The Villages AND.... Rural Metro doesn't do a good job of running fire departments in heavily populated areas. They currently have Fire Contracts for Pima, Pinal, and Yuma County Arizona whose population density ranges from 36 people/sq mile to 107 people/sq mile. Their other two fire contracts are for Knox County, TN at 751P/sq mile and Josaphine County, OR at 50P/sq mile. Eastchester has a population density of 6,500P/sq mile and Westchester County as a hole has a population density of 2200P/sq mile. Providing fire protection in Westchester, especially Southern Westchester is NOTHING like Sumter County Florida where the County covers most of the unincorporated areas with an IAFF local and the Villages has a stand alone IAFF department.

With regard to The Villages.... Apples to Elephants comparison....
For fire protection it is an IAFF local. For EMS, for about a decade ending in 2011 Lake/Sumter EMS (Lake County, FL and Sumter County, FL) provided EMS as a bi-county municipal entity. In 2011 Sumter County opted out of the bi-county agreement that established Lake/Sumter EMS and contracted with Rural Metro. Lake County decided that the previous model was still efficient and merely removed the Sumter half of the logos from the rigs and went on operating as is.... This is an apples to watermelons comparison with regard to anything in Westchester....
The Rural Metro has the contract for ALL of Sumter County which is 580/sq miles and has a population of 101,600. Within Sumter County, 51,500 of the 101,600 residents are located within The Villages which is 5.5sq miles which includes the hospital of choice for transporting within Sumter County. So R/M gets a major economy of scale. A contract for 101,000 folks where nearly half of them (the half that are most likely to have medical issues and who ALL have Medicare as their reliable healthcare payor source) are living in a 5.5sq mile area with a hospital right down the road. Lesson here.... You've got a captive group of folks who all have a reliable means of reimbursing an ambulance service making up half the lives that are covered in the County contract all living within spitting distance of each other AND the hospital. NO BRAINER.
Eastchester you might say is very similar... 32,500 residents in 5sq miles with a hospital nearby. Thats where the similarities end. R/M doesn't have the contract for ALL of Westchester County nor will they ever get it. So if R/M goes it alone in Eastchester they have no economy of scale, the median age is is 40 years old vs. 66 years old in the Villages and thus the payor mix for reimbursement is going to be vastly different than it is for the Villages where everyone has coverage and work will be consistent to say the least.. Lesson here... EMS in Eastchester is NOTHING like EMS in The Villages AND.... Rural Metro doesn't do a good job of running fire departments in heavily populated areas. They currently have Fire Contracts for Pima, Pinal, and Yuma County Arizona whose population density ranges from 36 people/sq mile to 107 people/sq mile. Their other two fire contracts are for Knox County, TN at 751P/sq mile and Josaphine County, OR at 50P/sq mile. Eastchester has a population density of 6,500P/sq mile and Westchester County as a hole has a population density of 2200P/sq mile. Providing fire protection in Westchester, especially Southern Westchester is NOTHING like Sumter County Florida where the County covers most of the unincorporated areas with an IAFF local and the Villages has a stand alone IAFF department.

With regard to The Villages.... Apples to Elephants comparison....
For fire protection it is an IAFF local. For EMS, for about a decade ending in 2011 Lake/Sumter EMS (Lake County, FL and Sumter County, FL) provided EMS as a bi-county municipal entity. In 2011 Sumter County opted out of the bi-county agreement that established Lake/Sumter EMS and contracted with Rural Metro. Lake County decided that the previous model was still efficient and merely removed the Sumter half of the logos from the rigs and went on operating as is.... This is an apples to watermelons comparison with regard to anything in Westchester....
The Rural Metro has the contract for ALL of Sumter County which is 580/sq miles and has a population of 101,600. Within Sumter County, 51,500 of the 101,600 residents are located within The Villages which is 5.5sq miles which includes the hospital of choice for transporting within Sumter County. So R/M gets a major economy of scale. A contract for 101,000 folks where nearly half of them (the half that are most likely to have medical issues and who ALL have Medicare as their reliable healthcare payor source) are living in a 5.5sq mile area with a hospital right down the road. Lesson here.... You've got a captive group of folks who all have a reliable means of reimbursing an ambulance service making up half the lives that are covered in the County contract all living within spitting distance of each other AND the hospital. NO BRAINER.
Eastchester you might say is very similar... 32,500 residents in 5sq miles with a hospital nearby. Thats where the similarities end. R/M doesn't have the contract for ALL of Westchester County nor will they ever get it. So if R/M goes it alone in Eastchester they have no economy of scale, the median age is is 40 years old vs. 66 years old in the Villages and thus the payor mix for reimbursement is going to be vastly different than it is for the Villages where everyone has coverage and work will be consistent to say the least.. Lesson here... EMS in Eastchester is NOTHING like EMS in The Villages AND.... Rural Metro doesn't do a good job of running fire departments in heavily populated areas. They currently have Fire Contracts for Pima, Pinal, and Yuma County Arizona whose population density ranges from 36 people/sq mile to 107 people/sq mile. Their other two fire contracts are for Knox County, TN at 751P/sq mile and Josaphine County, OR at 50P/sq mile. Eastchester has a population density of 6,500P/sq mile and Westchester County as a hole has a population density of 2200P/sq mile. Providing fire protection in Westchester, especially Southern Westchester is NOTHING like Sumter County Florida where the County covers most of the unincorporated areas with an IAFF local and the Villages has a stand alone IAFF department.

Hey no worries about making me wait. I was just curious if your claim that the title firefighter is a civil service title was something legit or just more of the BS that you spew on this site.FYI "real" firefighters never have to delineate themselves as such.
Nighty night!

What guys, what PMs. You talk in cryptic nonsense!
What's your name? Where do you work? You know my name, former department, and where I live now.
Who the hell are you. Talk about pussification, come out from behind keyboard. You're like a baby that doesn't want to give up the tit!!!!
99 out of 100 guys like you don't have the balls to talk like this in person. The 1 guy who does is hated by anyone who has to endure their presence on a regular basis.
Man up. Who the F are you!

Ok folks… who other than me is going to call this guy out. Go to his profile, read the contributions he has made in previous threads. None of them are productive. The post quoted above is as fictitious as it gets.