FF398

Barberton, Ohio Purple Engine

Barberton, Ohio Ladder 1

Cleveland, Ohio (Ladder 4 filling in at Station 1)

Columbus, Ohio Engine 6

Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio Engine 1

Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio Ladder 5

All photos were taken by Task Force 7 back in August of 2010.

Agreed with what everyone else has been saying, way to think outside the box!

Sounds like the rescue has to be immediate since the victim's position will rapidly become untenable.
Lay one ladder on the ground where the butt of a second ladder will be placed. Like an Ice rescue, that ladder on the ground will spread the weight. Use the stirrups at the heel of the climbing ladder to connect to the ladder on the ground.
PS
NEXT, CALL THE TV STATION AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR.
When the reporter arrives, tell him/her to ask the building inpector "How did this fiasco ever get approved?"

You arrive at this building which is becoming well involved from what you can see in the front and sides. There are two people trapped in a back office by a window by the flames. Their only exit is the back windows:

But you have one complication:

Get a ground ladder? Don't think so. The back is wet marshland that will sink you to your hips.

Another problem to consider is that the floors in this building are somewhat thin. So, how would you handle this rescue?

Perhaps someone has an actual answer to this and not just opinions.
Why do some fire and police departments respond to EMS calls that aren't CFRs, EMTs or Medics? What is the point and what value does it have for the patient or victim to have untrained people standing there with them, waiting on an ambulance?
As for lift assists, why do PDs and FDs handle these? Is there any kind of liability if "XYZ PD" or "FD" responds on a lift assist, moves a patient and further injures them?
I only ask because our FD only responds at the request of EMS, but discussion has come up about lift assists and what to do when the ambulance doesn't get out for a lift assist. Should Mutual Aid have to handle it, or is another emergency service in town (PD or FD) capable to handle this?
On a personal note, if there's a call for a cardiac arrest, I think no harm would come from sending all 3 services if they have AEDs - get someone with the right equipment to the scene as soon as possible.
Thanks

These are photos that I took at a 2 alarm fire back on 8-2-10 in downtown Louisville. I edited the photos to only show the apparatus that were on scene.
First on scene was H&L-1

Engine 11 pumping and attacking the fire.

Engine 5

Tower 2

Squrt 17

Wow! Considering the fact that 252 had water out the windows and the fire knocked down within a couple of minutes of arrival, it appears that your criticism is fairly harsh and uncalled for. It appears that 252 took the hydrant that was closest to the fire building, I don't see another hydrant on the block had they passed up the one that they hooked up to. I didn't see any truckies running, it did appear that a couple of firefighters were jogging toward 252's rig (probably firefighters from the 2nd due engine coming to assist with stretching the first line). I agree that reckless running at a fire scene could cause a slip / fall incident, but there does need to be an accelerated (albeit controlled) level of movement by responding personnel due to the rapidity of fire growth coupled with the dangers of smoke, heat and toxic gases on exposed victims as well as firefighters who are operating in the fire area as well as above it.
To the Firefighters who operated at this incident, a job well done.

Nothing against the hard work of the moderators (particularly in this case FDNY 10-75) But this section is hurting the quality of EMTBravo.
I enjoy seeing what depts are getting. but this is just filler. This morning 80% of the recent board is about rigs being delivered or that might be put out to bid. With half the info either unknown or TBD.
Meanwhile it replaced, a LODD thread, Chains, Grants and other great threads.
If posters have real info on a new rig great, lets see. But this is just filler and is taking away from what makes EMTbravo great.
Rant over.

I took this shot of the City of Poughkeepsie this past August from the Hudson River Walkway...... It was taken at dusk just before the walkway closes (Which BTW, also happens to be the optimal time for photography) and I almost didn't finish it... I had a few minutes to go and then I had a less that pleasurable encounter with a NYSPP officer who apparently was having an off day :angry: ......... They put in and make a big deal about all this LED energy efficient lighting and yet the walkway closes at dusk.....Go figure...
I have printed this out on my printer at a size of 24" high by 120" wide and it is highly detailed...... I have a friend who has as a 24" H x ~80" W version and his kids had it framed for him as a Christmas gift.... It now occupies his living room and it looks gorgeous..... I have many other landscape panoramas that I have done and my intent is to try to sell these as a means to pay some of my photography expenses...... Doing the fire photography has put me in the hole as far as expenses go and hopefully I can use photos such as this to offset some of my expenses.....
If you have yet to go to the walkway, you should do it...... It really is a great place to go .....

The La Grange Fire Department responded to a reported structure fire on Miller Hill Drive on the bitter cold evening of January 17,2011. Firefighters arrived to find an active fire with fire venting from an exterior wall in a large two story residence..... A second alarm was requested which brought in additional tankers from Beekman and East Fishkill as well as East Fishkills FAST team..... Firefighters made quick work of the fire and clearly held the damage to a minimum.....

Walk up shot...... Wow, this was a big house.....

La Grange Deputy Chief Barry Ward runs the incident from his vehicle as two State Troopers leave the scene after helping firefighters with a what I believe was an uncooperative individual.......

Firefighters had fire from the side of the structure at two points upon their arrival.....

La Grange career firefighter Zittel overhauls the exterior wall.....

East Fishkill firefighters check for extension in the garage......

EFFD FAST team member Jeff Savino watches over the structure....

La Grange Deputy Chief Barry Ward calling the shots.....

Water opp's out at the street......

La Grange 47-32.... One of two new 3000 gallon tankers that La Grange recently took delivery of......

La Grange firefighters assembled for this quick group shot.....

The East Fishkill Fire Department responded to this structure fire on Fairview Road on the evening of Monday January 17, 2011. Upon their arrival, they had fire throughout the small residential structure and quickly knocked down the same..... East Fishkill was assisted at the scene by the Village of Fishkills FAST team.....

Firefighters arrived to find fire throughout the small structure.....

A EFFD fire policeman stands guard next to a downed live electrical wire that fell from the structure....

Firefighters work to vent the snow covered roof....

A side shot of the scene......

Watter opp's......

The roofs open.....

With their "new" quint in the background, EFFD Firefighter Savino changes the bottles on firefighters Conti and Birkler...... I have made several prints of this on my printer that are
24"H x 50"W and they look pretty sharp...........

A few shots I took from today's working fire on Maple Ave in Mt. Kisco.
News 12 Story about the fire
Lohud.com Story on the fire

Date: 1/29/11
Time: 17:21
Location: 2103 Albany Post Road
Frequency: 46.26 / Fire 10
Montrose Units Operating: 2271, 2272, 2273, E122, E121, TL8
Peekskill Units: 2341, R134 w/ FAST
Buchanan Units: 2553, U12
WCDES Units: Bat 10, C&O Zone 4
Cortlandt VAC: 88B1, 88B2 w/ CPP 35M2
Relocating to Montrose HQ: 2491, E128
Weather Conditions: Cold, cloudy
Description Of Incident: Fire on 2nd floor of two-story 20x40 garage on arrival
Reporters: Da' Box
Writer: Da' Box
17:24 - E122 responding.
17:25 - 2271 reports fully involved structure fire.
17:26 - 2271 transmitting a 10-75, Peekskill FAST, Buchanan Cascade & Cortlandt VAC dispatched. E122 on location.
17:28 - U12 responding. E121 responding.
17:30 - TL8 responding. E121 on location.
17:32 - TL8 on location.
17:36 - Peekskill FAST responding w/ R134.
17:37 - Bat 10 reports 1 L/S/O, two-story 40x20 garage, heavy smoke showing from eaves.
17:46 - Peekskill FAST on location (R134).
17:59 - Bat 10 reports fire is under control, contained to 2nd floor.
18:11 - 88B2 transporting 1 FF w/ shoulder injury.

Date: 1/22/11
Time: 00:51
Location: 632 Anderson Hill Road "Full Moon Restaurant"
Frequencies: 46.26 / Fire 19 / 33.96
Purchase Units Operating: 2411, 2412, 2413, E238, E240, TL53, U10
West Harrison Units: 2501, 2502, E265
Town of Mamaroneck Units: 2232, 2233, E36 w/ FAST
Port Chester Units: 2393, E61, E64, L31
Harrison Units: 2162, 2163, E10
Mamaroneck Village Units: 2241, L21
Valhalla Units: 2482, R9 w/ FAST
Elmsford Units: L55 w/ FAST
Westchester DES Units: Bat 15, C&O Zone 2, Car 25
Weather Conditions: Cold (Damn cold!)
Description Of Incident: Fire in three-story frame OMD, restaurant with apartments above.
Reporters: Remember585
Writer: Remember585
Relocated to Purchase HQ: Armonk E286 / White Plains L34 (Changed over the course of the fire)
00:51 - Purchase dispatched for a Commercial Alarm.
00:55 - E238 on location.
00:57 - 2413 reports smoke in building, forcing door.
01:00 - 10-75 transmitted, Purchase retoned, West Harrison Engine, Town of Mamaroneck FAST, Bat 19 dispatched.
01:01 - Port Chester 1 & 1 to relocate Purchase HQ. E61 & L31 assigned.
01:05 - 2501 responding.
01:07 - 2502, E265 responding.
01:09 - E61 relocating. 2232, 2233, E36 responding.
01:12 - 2501 advising E265 to assist with hydrant.
01:13 - 2502, E265 on location.
01:16 - 2501 reports a 3-story frame, restaurant on first floor, apartments on two floors above, bring E61 to the scene. Heavy smoke from structure.
01:16 - Harrison to relocate Engine to Purchase for coverage.
01:19 - 2501 requesting L31 to the scene, backfill with another unit.
01:20 - 2501 advising 2393 to have L31 get the roof.
01:21 - Harrison Engine, Mamaroneck Village Ladder to relocate Purchase HQ.
01:22 - 2163, E10 relocating to Purchase HQ.
01:23 - 2412 responding. 2232, 2233, E36 on location.
01:25 - E10 dispatched Purchase College for water flow alarm at Performing Arts Center.
01:26 - Port Chester units dispatched to an Anderson Hill Road address for a water flow alarm.
01:30 - 2412 on location.
01:33 - Bat 15 requesting a Bee-Line bus to the scene. 2501 requesting another Engine to the scene.
01:35 - Port Chester E64 dispatched to the scene.
01:36 - 2241, 2242, L21 relocating to Purchase HQ. E64 responding.
01:38 - 2163 reports Harrison units clearing the college, 2501 requesting them into the scene, E64 to Purchase HQ.
01:40 - 2162, 2163, E10 on location.
01:41 - 60 Control advising 2501 that 2411 is coming with a delay.
01:45 - E64 out at Purchase HQ.
01:49 - Bat 15 requesting Greenburgh cascade unit to the scene.
01:54 - C&O Zone 2 dispatched. 2501 reports all units still operating.
01:55 - Bat 15 requesting the Valhalla FAST to the scene.
01:57 - Bat 15 requesting L21 to the scene.
02:00 - White Plains Ladder requested to Purchase HQ.
02:02 - 2482, R9 responding.
02:04 - 2411 is on location.
02:11 - R9 on location.
02:24 - Bat 15 reports fire is darkening down, 4 L/S/O, using all hands.
02:26 - L34 out at Purchase HQ.
02:36 - 2393 requesting EMS for an injured FF (eye injury I believe, transmission broken).
02:37 - Bat 15 requesting an additional ambulance to the scene for standby.
03:30 - Elsmford FAST dispatched to the scene.
03:31 - North White Plains Engine requested to cover West Harrison HQ.
03:32 - E64 requsted to the scene and on location.
03:33 - Armonk Engine requested to relocate to Purchase HQ. E62 & TL2 on standby in own HQ in Port Chester.
03:45 - E286 enroute to Purchase HQ. E75 enroute to West Harrison HQ.
03:49 - E75 relocated to West Harrison HQ.
03:54 - L55 on location.
04:08 - E286 out at Purchase HQ.
04:27 - 2411 reports the fire is under control.
04:30 - 2241, L21 in service.
04:36 - E36, L55 in service.
04:51 - L34 released from Purchase HQ.
04:52 - E10 in service.
04:59 - R9 in service.
05:10 - E61, E64 in service.
05:32 - E75 released from West Harrison HQ.
05:41 - Bat 15 in service.
05:45 - E265, L31 in service.
05:48 - E286 released from Purchase HQ.
06:28 - All units in service from the fire scene.
Lohud article

Greetings all. I have been member on this site for a long time, and at the moment I am also an assistant Chief with the Elmont FD. I will not get into specifics at this point, but just wanted to say a few things.
First, the Elmont FD is in no way racist, nor is the company in question trying to incite a racist point of view. Like it or not the nickname "rebels" and the use of the confederate flag has been a somewhat popular choice of fire companies for decades. Im sure you all know of a company somewhere called the "rebels". Hell just google "fire Dept. maltese cross rebel flag sticker" and you will see a dozen designs for your helmet and other applications from many fire service stores.
Second, the company was organized in 1924, and at the time was the only company on the East End of the district, away from the other then 3 existing companies in the West all a few blocks from each other. Back in the day the competition between fire companies was probably more fierce then it is today. The other companies did not want them to be located at that end of the district and "beat" them to the fires in that part of town. They got the nickname of the rebels because they went against the grain from day 1. The nickname rebels was born for being "different" not being racist.
This all said, the flag does bring about some strong feelings from many folks, and in the end we exsist to serve the public not offend them. I will leave it at that for now.
Be safe all.

<B>Date</B>: 1/16/11<BR><B>Time</B>: 03:20 (Approx)<BR><B>Location</B>: Imperial Wok on Route 202 (Heritage Hills Shopping Center)<BR><B>Frequencies</B>: Fire 13 / 46.26 / FG 1 / 154.220<BR><B>Somers Units Operating</B>: 2441, 2442, 2443, 2445, E180, E181, E183, E185, L18, L48, R20, U88, 80B2<BR><B>Croton Falls Units</B>: 2071, 2072, 2073, E148, U28<BR><B>Bedford Hills Units</B>: 2031, 2033, TL57 FAST<BR><B>Yorktown Units</B>: 2533, E270<BR><B>WCDES Units</B>: Battalion 13, C&O Zone 5 w/ 1405<BR><B>Weather Conditions</B>: Cold, 30 degrees, partly cloudy<BR><B>Description Of Incident</B>: Fire in single story 100' x 50' Chinese / Japanese restaurant<BR><B>Reporters</B>: Remember585 <BR><B>Writer</B>: Remember585<BR><BR>03:22 - Yorktown FAST dispatched.<BR>03:24 - Battalion 13 responding.<BR>03:25 - 2533 responding.<BR>03:33 - E270 responding.<BR>03:34 - Bedford Hills FAST dispatched (Yorktown going to work).<BR>03:36 - C&O Zone 4 dispatched.<BR>03:37 - 2033, 2031 responding.<BR>03:38 - Battalion 13 on location.<BR>03:40 - Goldens Bridge Engine dispatched to relocate to Somers HQ.<BR>03:41 - TL57 responding.<BR>03:43 - 2072 on location.<BR>03:46 - 2533, E270 on location.<BR>03:47 - 2031 on location.<BR>03:48 - E148 responding.<BR>03:52 - E148, TL57 on location. 2141, 2142, 2143, E140 relocating.<BR>03:55 - Bat 13 reports 2 L/S/O, Tower Ladder setting up, fire in C/D corner.<BR>03:59 - Croton Falls Cascade unit dispatched.<BR>04:00 - C&O Zone 5 dispatched (Zone 4 not available).<BR>04:06 - Bat 13 reports all companies working, fire in the cockloft, making progress. E140 in Somers HQ.<BR>04:10 - U28 responding.<BR>04:21 - U28 on location.<BR>04:23 - Bat 13 reports fire is contained to C/D corner, not under control, ending interior operations per the IC.<BR>04:31 - Bat 13 reports DOH has been in contact with the IC.

The New Hackensack Fire Department, Town of Wappinger Ambulance/TransCare, Stat-Flight, and the NYSP - Wappinger operated at this auto accident with entrapment on the evening of January 6th......

Personnel arrived to find a heavily damaged vehicle in an unstable position with an adult male occupant with head trauma. Here a firefighter stabilizes the front of the vehicle.

From the front.....

A charged hoseline is in place as crews get to work.....

A Lieutenant stays with the patient as crews start their task of removing the roof under the watchful eye of a TransCare Medic.

The position the vehicle came to rest in made for a slightly challenging extrication.

Firefighters make one of many relief cuts in the vehicles roof.....

The precarious position of the vehilce made for some awkward cutting positions.....

"Don't let that go" Firefighters lift the roof.....

TransCare medics get access to their patient.....

Medics work on the patient as firefighters begin to clean up......

These are photos of Rombout Fire Departments structure fire that occurred at 226 Windsor Rd just before midnight on Sunday. Firefighters arrived to find fire through the roof of a ~ 4500 sq ft residence with high winds, heavy snow, white-out conditions, and near zero wind chill ...... Perfect weather for firefighting....... Firefighters apparently attempted an interior attack but were forced to retreat due to insufficent water and rapid fire spread due to the high winds...... I arrived as Command advised that they were going defensive....... I had a tough time keeping my lens free of snow and debris due to the high winds and only shot with one of two cameras I normally shoot with as a result...... This was clearly a frustrating fire for all who were there.....

A shot from the front...... Hughsonvilles FAST Team and Village of Fishkill......

It was snowing heavily and very windy.......

Hey, I found a hot spot........

A shot from the rear..... These guys were inside under the fire but had to pull out due to rapidly deteriorating conditions......

Insurmountable odds.....

With the wind fanning the fire and water issues.... Crews were ordered to pull back their lines and were clearly frustrated that they were defeated .....

This is shot of the Central Hudson gas man..... He had just retrieved the power meter but said "I killed the power but It's up to guys to turn off the gas.... It's too damn hot!"

While a tanker shuttle was being initiated, Rombout's Tower gets set up......

Village of Fishkill firefighters watch as 62-45 hits the fire......

The end.....

These reports do nothing but point fingers. Although constructive in many regards they probably really destroy the feelings and emotions of those involved as the responsibility is usually placed on them. This was one of those incidents that was 100% avoidable but either complacency or the DESIRE to help, which is I think the real culprit killed these two guys. Unfortunately we can only learn from our mistakes, and I hope the death of these two men does not fall on deaf ears.
I also hope that this allows the family to have some type of closure on the whole incident.

Date: 12/9/10
Time: 05:35
Location: 3901 Gomer Court (Off of E Main St) Town of Yorktown "Jefferson Valley Collision"
Frequencies: 46.26 / 453.275 / Fire 17 / FG 1 / MVAC
LMFD Units Operating: 2261, 2262, E253, E258, L10, 69B1
YHFD Units Operating: 2533, E270 FAST
MFFD Units Operating: 19-6-1
MFD Units Operating: 18-2-1, 18-7-1
CVFD Units Operating: 2132, E231
PVFD Units Operating:
YVAC Units Operating: 86B1?, 34 Medics
SFD EMS Units Operating: 80B2, U88 (RAC)
WCDES Units Operating: Bat 16, C&O Zone 4 w/ 1404
Weather Conditions: Cold, 21 Degrees
Description Of Incident: Working fire in 30' x 50' 2 1/2 story dwelling attached to 100' x 100' auto body shop
Reporters: Remember585
Writer: Remember585
LoHud Article
Relocated to Mohegan HQ: 2341, 2342, TL45 (Peekskill FD) & 88B1 (Cortlandt VAC)
05:35 - L10, E253, E258 dispatched to reported structure fire. 60 Control advising multiple calls on it.
05:39 - 60 Control advising responding units one person possibly trapped per YPD.
05:40 - E253 reports fully involved house fire, still not on scene.
05:41 - 10-75 transmitted. E253 has a propane tank that already "let go."
05:41 - 60 Control dispatching Yorktown FAST, Mahopac Falls Cascade, Mohegan VAC & Bat 17 to the scene.
05:42 - E253 to 2262, fully involved and reports from units on scene all occupants are out.
05:43 - 2261 requesting a Ladder to HQ and send one Tanker from "somewhere."
05:45 - Peekskill TL45 dispatched to cover Mohegan HQ.
05:46 - 60 Control dispatching Battalion 10. 2261 cancelling the Tanker.
05:48 - E270 responding. 2262 requesting Con Ed Electric to the scene. Battalion 16 dispatched.
05:49 - 2262 reports an auto body shop on first floor with a residence above, 30' x 50'.
05:50 - 2262 requesting Con Ed to "step it up."
05:52 - 19-6-1 responding.
05:54 - "L10, as soon as the PD car moves, I want you to set up in the rear," per 2262.
05:55 - "E258 to the hydrant, send me water!"
05:56 - "2262 to the hydrant on E Main St, shut it down, I have a situation." 19-6-1 on location.
05:57 - "2261 to 60 Control dispatch an Engine from Mahopac, we need manpower here."
05:59 - E270 on location.
06:02 - Units reporting partial collapse, E258 has no water, 2262 reports "we're working on it."
06:03 - "2261 to all units, switch to Fire Ground 1."
06:05 - 18-2-1 responding. 69B1 transporting 1 to WMC.
06:06 - 2261 requesting Yorktown Highway Department for salt, "we're falling all over the place."
06:12 - 18-2-1 on location.
06:18 - Bat 16 on location, 2261 requesting the C&O Team to the scene. DC41 reports "Ladder operation is underway."
06:19 - C&O Zone 4 dispatched. Mohegan VAC, 39M2, U18 dispatched to an EMS call.
06:23 - Bat 16 requesting an update on the electric company, please put a 2nd call in, we have a hazardous condition.
06:25 - 60 Control advising Con Ed crew assigned, should be there in 15-20 minutes.
06:28 - 60 Control advising Bat 16 that Con Ed reports they have a rep on scene.
06:29 - Bat 16 requesting run down of EMS units on scene, 60 Control reports a YVAC rig and Yorktown Medic.
06:31 - Unknown unit reporting, "not enough pressure on this line over here."
06:32 - Bat 16 requesting 1 Ambulance to cover Mohegan and 1 Ambulance to the scene.
06:34 - Cortlandt VAC dispatched to Mohegan HQ for coverage.
06:38 - New Channel 4 Chopper showing live video, fire appears to be darkening down.
06:41 - Bat 16 reports units making progress, exposure issue is a 100 x 100 body shop, 4 L/S/O and 1 Ladder Pipe.
06:44 - 2261 requesting two ambulances total on scene at all times. YVAC is transporting unknown #.
06:47 - News Channel 4 Chopper reports business is "Jefferson Valley Collision."
06:48 - Bat 16 requesting Somers Rehab to the scene. Carmel VAC & Somers EMS have been requested to the scene.
06:49 - 1404 responding.
06:53 - 60 Control reports that YVAC is going to be transporting 3 with smoke inhalation shortly.
06:54 - Bat 16 requesting Con Ed Gas to the scene.
07:06 - 1404 on location.
07:07 - 60 Control advising Bat 16 that 80B2, 18-7-1 on scene. Bat 16 reports exterior operation, fire darkening down, making progress.
07:22 - U88 (RAC) responding.
07:31 - U88 on location.
07:36 - 2261 declaring the fire under control.
07:39 - Bat 16 requesting Code Enforcement to the scene.
08:01 - 2261 reports they have an excavator coming, the building has to be torn down for total extinguishment.
08:02 - 2261 requesting manpower from Continental Village & Putnam Valley to the scene.
08:15 - 2132 on location.
08:16 - E232 responding. (Originally called in as E231, later corrected they were in E232).
08:27 - 24-2-1 responding.
09:13 - Yorktown FD units released.
10:00 - C&O units returning.
10:09 - Bat 16 reports Red Cross is on location.
10:15 - Bat 16 going in service.
10:28 - Continental Village units in service.
10:45 - 2261 requesting Yorktown Water Department to the scene.
11:00 - Mahopac & Mahopac Falls FD units in service.
11:08 - E254 & TL45 responding on a CO investigation.
12:05 - All units clear from the scene. TL45 released from standby.

Sorry for jumping in so late in the discussion. but irish fire is right. I was on the job for 34 years and went to schools,seminars, etc. right up to the time I retired. Some of us go to these classes just to get certificates and unfortunately forget the course material in a week or two. On the other hand, you could have irishfire's attitude: Learn it from those who have been there> remember it> and put it in your back pocket because you might need it some time in the future when you least expect it. It should also come out of that back pocket every now and then for a review. Irishfire, Tommy Brennan would be proud of you.
And Barry: Mofire is young. Don't jump on him when he asks a question. All your information is absolutely correct, but as soon as you jumped on his case, you turned him off.
Cids (or whatever you may call buildings' info database) is a very time consuming effort and takes a lot of work by all members of a FD to initiate and then to keep current. Not a knock, but it is something that volunteer FDs just don't have the time or people to devote.
Everyone, paid or vol should find time to do company inspections, at least of your area's target hazards if nothing else. Wouldn't it be nice if your first time in a building is during a company inspection as opposed to 3an on your hands and knees?
And about that back pocket irishfire talked about...It's like a magic pocket. No matter how much "stuff" you put in it, it never gets full.
There...you got my two cents. Take it to heart and it may be worth a lot more to you

It seems everytime I log onto this website, somebody is going off on some tangent about how much they know about this, that, and the other thing. Everybody needs to be on some foolish power trip. Constructive criticism is a great thing but every topic gets alittle irate! I mean look at you guys, its turning into a science class...lol In my honest opinion, nobody got hurt and all that needs to be said about firefighting is stay in the books, know your operating procedures, know your buildings, get good at reading smoke, and let circumstances dictate procedures!

Come on Barry. With all due respect, planning and training are all good and well. But you know, as well as i, that alot of these commercial occupancies may change what they are storing on a daily basis. Even a Career department (such as the one you are affiliated with) with Inspectors/Marshalls may not be able to keep up with whats going on in these places.
Responding to ANY emergency, we must always be on alert and prepared for ANYTHING. However, there are times when things are out of our control.
Happy thanksgiving to you sir and your family, stay safe.

Photo #1- Engine 93 hits the hydrant and stretches a line to the structure
Photo #2- First on scene, prior to any police or fire units. Heavy fire Charlie/Delta Corner (fire through the roof). Minor exposure problem on Delta side of neighbors house
Photo #3- Photo from front door of neighbor’s house. Homeowners were notified of the fire and were requested to evacuate the house.
Photo #4- Engine 93 arrives on location (prior to hitting the hydrant)
Photos #5,6- Briarcliff Manor firefighters wait for water